#89789 by C Quil on 7/26 at 1:26 pm: “...I thought that the country without the people was the idea all along. After all, it’s the oil under the ground that they want, not the people that live (or lived) on it....”

Isn’t it amazing that the country whose people once screamed “nuke the Ayatolla” in the 1970’s over the price of gasoline are now so willing to pay double for their oil just to have the chance of killing a few Iraqis? Why, if it also entails losing their own soldiers’ lives needlessly?

“Staying the course” means not only that but doubling the price again to at least US$150 per barrel if the US (or Israel) attacks Iran. That is the kind of economic and militarist insanity now being foisted on the people of the US by their government and so-called ‘friends’ in the M.East!

In the meantime, the value of the US$ is heading south - and has a long way to spiral down before that economic equation is balanced out. At some stage, other nations holding US debt will be so incensed that they will simply say “f#ck off” and that will be the end for the US economy. It has already started to happen.....

Quote:”...The UN refugee agency says the mass displacement is threatening the region’s stability....”

And don’t forget that there are another 2 million displaced citizens within Iraq as well! Well done, USA - you deserve all the credit!

“If We Ever ‘Stabilize’ Iraq, Will Anybody Still Live There...?”

The answer is NO to both assumptions - (a) Iraq will never be ‘stabilized’ by the USA, and (b) it will eventually be carved up between Turkey and Iran and the Iraqis will become a stateless people just like the Kurds who Saddam massacred (with the permission and assistance of guess who)!

I just saw an estimate by Lancet that 980,000 Iraqis have died by violence since we attacked. Before that a Johns Hopkins/MIT study put the figure at 655,000. Before that the Iraq Ministry of Health put the figure at 40-50,000, but changed it to 150,000 a week after a Lancet study came out with a figure of 601,000. Regardless of the actual true figure these are huge numbers in an illegal un-necessary imperialistic resource war.

Of course none of these figures take into account Iraqi losses during the first Gulf War, or the estimated 500,000 deaths caused by sanctions, and only time will tell how many will die from OUR use of an internationally recognized nuclear WMD known as depleted uranium (which will likely cause the premature deaths of tens of thousands of OUR soldiers as well).

I read something awhile back that implicated Henry Kissinger in a plan to de-populate the middle east.

DU has the potential to do it.

It solves the Israel/Palestine problem.

Guess you got your wish.

“Doin’ a heck of a job, Henry”

I thought that the country without the people was the idea all along. After all, it’s the oil under the ground that they want, not the people that live (or lived) on it.

A total of about 4 million persons so adversely affected by our invasion they have left the country or have felt forced to relocate in their own homeland. Millions more affected who have not moved to a more secure location or left the country (yet).

How many of these would you think are supporters of America and its policy of pre-emptive invasion on false claims by our leader and his vice-leader.

How would you react to someone with massive fire-power suddenly moving into your area and totally disrupting you life? NO more electricity, no more health care for your young, no more being able to just take a walk in your neighborhood where you’ve lived for years.

You probably would smile at the Occupiers and perhaps even laugh at their jokes. But how long would it take you to strike back in the dead of night.

Can we bring large numbers of supposed friendly Iraqis here. I don’t think it would be wise.

The old addage, action speaks louder than words, is somthing that would benefit us looking into more often.

Our leaders continually talk about peace… we then attack.

Our leaders say they support troops.  We are now sending diagnosed mentally ill people into battle and believe it is perfectly ethical because they are volunteers, not draftees.

Our leaders say we are saving Iraq from a dictator… that we want to help Iraqis.  I guess only 300 of them are worthy.

Perhaps it’s time for us common folk to put OUR talk into action by voting ALL of our spokesmen/women out of office and elect some folks who haven’t evolved from the action phase yet and really follow what they speak!

Imperialist and Communist are equal. They only bring war, tears, bloods, sufferings, killings...and absolutely no peace.

Stabilize - I think there will be no such thing.  There are people in every country on earth that will continue to resist as long as foreign troops occupy - American imperialism is not seen as a positive thing and many Iraqis know this quite well....

You don’t bring peace to people by killing civilians and waging war on their cities and towns.  It never worked before and it won’t work in Iraq.

Some reading on this:

“Can America Bring Peace to the World?”
http://www.populistamerica.com/can_america_bring_peace _to_the_world