#89710 by farmertx on 7/26 at 8:51 am

Farmertx, you bring up an interesting irony here, that I suspect you may already be aware of.

.....“There are some, as in any movement, of the religious right that would take us back to Ols Testament thinking.”...

As the Boer’s in South Africa: When faced with a problem, they consulted the Old Testament and found a parable that was similar in some respect to the current problem, and there was the answer.

This situation that you describe with the Boer’s, is nearly identical, (though probably not as sophisticated) as are the practices of Shari’a Law, within Islam. There are various schools of legal thought, but the one that comes closest to this with the Boers, is probably The Sunnah. Regardless of the branch, sect, or particular school of thought that one follows, they have more than a few scholars and jurisprudence experts that will interpret/look to the Sunnah or the Koran, or whatever else, to provide answers for current situations.

Matter of fact, the more I read and research, the more ALL of these types begin to blur together. The reliance on the Holy Books in the 21st Century is causing some major problems. Another reason my agnosticism has become more pronounced.

Curious you mentioned the Boers. I’d never heard of them until a few years ago, when an elderly friend asked me to help her find some information on them.

I didn’t ask her why or what she wanted to find out, and I don’t know if she ever did.

Just send them to slaughterhouse !

Cyrena’
Yes there are some like that here. That was a reallife quote; I was there when the man said it, adding no quailier to it.

There are some, as in any movement, of the religious right that would take us back to Ols Testament thinking.
As the Boer’s in South Africa: When faced with a problem, they consulted the Old Testament and found a parable that was similar in some respect to the current problem, and there was the answer.

Isn’t it obvious that the Democratic establishment wants to assume an executive position with all of the new powers the previous administration put into place?  They want to have their cake and eat it too just like the Republicans.

Its all the same to the corporations that fund both parties. Of course impeachment is off the table.

Face it America if you truly want your government back you’re probably going to have to excercize your 2nd Amendment responsibilities.

#89645 by farmertx on 7/26 at 3:57 am

•  There are still the ones like the guy who admitted that he would likely vote for Micky Mouse if he ran on the Republican ticket. Actually, Mickeys’ alter ego did run, now that I think about it…

Farmertx, I had to laugh. Are there still many of these types there? And actually, Mickey Mouse would have been better than bush, at least relatively harmless. Bush is Mick’s evil twin, and a certified sociopath.

It’s frightening really, as everything just sort of crumbles, and still not quite everyone is “getting it”. I just received another e-mail invitation from a relative, to tune into a “Bible Study Hour” (via the radio I guess) for next Wednesday’s regular Bible Study Night. And, I’m in California. (as is the Bible Study group that will broadcast). Humm, now that I think about it, she must have meant what is now yesterday.

Doesn’t matter, since I have NEVER been into the Wednesday night Bible Study group. EVER!!. I tried it twice, and man oh man, I knew this just was not my “crowd”. Still, I never thought there was anything “harmful” or dysfunctional about these folks, and it’s always been a popular ideology in certain parts of the country.

But NOW…all that has changed. They are downright dangerous now. They’re sitting around reading these books that are centuries upon centuries old, and trying to make interpretations, (all different). Meantime, the whole world is going to hell in a hand-basket, and all of that Bible studying has NOT appeared to help the situation at all.

Just keeps everybody distracted and dumbed-down.

Of course, I don’t know if it’s any worse than the Mickey Mouse fans.

We seem to be living in the perfect storm, politically speaking. An Executive that distains the Constitution, detests government itself and sees its authority as a means to make vast sums of money for the insiders.

On the other side of the aisle we have an opposition torn between its pandering to the same “insiders” that are reaping such huge rewards under Bush and its traditional role as the party of the working class, the minority, the disenfranchised. It would seem that every decision is coated with the hard candy shell of refusing to alienate the large donor.

With the example of Lewis Libby fresh in their minds I seriously doubt that contempt of Congress carries much weight with either Meiers or Bolton. Bush will simply tie up any contempt proceedings in court, appealing to the SC, that formerly august body now controlled by the friends of George (41).

Mike Mid City
I wouldn’t bet on that. I hope you are right, but…
Congress is fast becoming more clueless than the Shrub…and that takes real effort.
It will be interesting to see if any independents start running, as Sheehan has vowed to do.
It won’t make any real diffence unless a bunch of independents are elected to office, but it might serve as a wake-up call to the incumbents that managed to get re-elected.
Even in Van Zandt County, long a Republican stronghold, sentiment isn’t favoring Shrub nor his policies. There are still the ones like the guy who admitted that he would likely vote for Micky Mouse if he ran on the Republican ticket. Actually, Mickeys’ alter ego did run, now that I think about it…

#89636 by CitizenDefender on 7/26 at 12:52 am

CitizenDefender, I agree with everything you wrote, except this:

•  Senator Pelosi needs to persist in her push to impeach Bush and Cheney.

I have to remind ALL, that Ms. Pelosi has NOT been at all interested in pushing to impeach the Dick Bush Duo. She has in fact, consistent said that the very idea was “off the table”. So, the Speaker, (who is NOT a “Senator” by the way, she is the Speaker of the ‘House’ – the Chief Congress person – a Representative ) has NOT been willing to bring this action or pursue this at all. Rather, she seems to have become only recently ‘convinced’, to at least appear to go through the motions.

Whatever it takes. Just so we get it done.

Meantime, here’s a link to the latest Gonzo theatrics in the Senate hearings. It gets so ridiculous that you almost have to laugh.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/072507B.shtml

The Democrats are not trying to strip away the President’s Executive privilege option.

The Senate is going after Whitehouse staffers that were served a subpoena because they are in contempt of Congress for not showing up. They are required to show up even if they do not answer any questions.

After the Senate has indicated AG Alberto Gonzales has lied under oath, this gives even more cause for them to get to the truth on this issue with all parties concerned.

It is just a matter of time before the lies and cover-ups hidden under the auspices of National Security will be exposed.

Senator Pelosi needs to persist in her push to impeach Bush and Cheney.

The Executive Branch’s abuse of power has gone on too long.