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Reid Promises to Force Filibuster on Iraq Withdrawal

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Posted on Jul 16, 2007

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has announced that Senate Democrats are going to force Republicans to filibuster all night long if they want to continue to block Iraq troop withdrawal legislation. Previously, the Democrats politely allowed the opposition’s formal promise to filibuster to stand in for the action itself.

Fox News showed its lack of bias with this headline on what appears to be a straight news story: “Reid Threatens to Keep Senate Up All Night, Republicans Yawn.” Fox also quotes an unnamed “senior Democratic aide” as saying: “Is this a publicity stunt? Yes. This is the only way we know to highlight their complete ignorance of the will of the people!”

Think Progress:
Moments ago, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) announced that in response to conservative obstructionism, he plans to force war supporters to physically remain in the Senate and filibuster Iraq withdrawal legislation.

Reid accused conservatives of “protecting the President rather than protecting our troops” by “denying us an up or down vote on the most important issue our country faces.” He said that if a vote on the Reed/Levin Iraq legislation is not allowed [Monday or Tuesday], he will keep the Senate in session “straight through the night on Tuesday” and force a filibuster.

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By Lord Purple, July 17, 2007 at 1:38 pm Link to this comment

There is no solution to the Iraq War. If Americans really want the war to end, and they truly care for their ‘Soldiers’, then they will immediately, without hesitation, cease and desist from driving their cars. Other than that, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Also, I have news for you folks. Bush is ‘The Leaker’.

In the Name of Brutus

Dames and Gents,

        In times unprecedented and tinged with despair, it is appropriate to reflect on the founding of our great nation. It was not with George Washington, but with Brutus, and not the one who killed Caeser. There was another who rebelled against the tyrant monarchy of Rome, The Tarquins. He wrote the Roman Constitution that would stand for 500 years. His sons sided with the monarchy. The monarchy lost. So to punish his sons and found a perfect union, he immolated his own sons.
      Machiavelli speaks fluently and voluminoulsy and voiciferously on this subject, in ‘The Discourses’, and yet is proved wrong on several counts by the miracle of America. He says that a nation founded in servitude, as America was a colony, will never win its freedom. He also says that a nation founded on fertile soil that is easily defended, will in time loose all of its freedoms because it will become, eventually, inevitably, sloth and sated, and will forget to protect them.
      As regards ‘The DC Madam’, I am personally involved. You can view my involvement at http://www.maytheygetwhattheydeserve.com/KAT.html
Sometimes a mouse will lead you to a kat, and a kat can lead you to a rat and a rat, ironically, can lead you to the truth. And the truth, as they say, and as it is written, will set you free.
      May all those who sincerely and patiently wait for freedom be free and may all those who desire to steal those freedoms find instead the dire consequences that accompany contempt for a great man like Brutus.

As regards Machiavelli,
eram sapiens tamen nefas
And again,
vox vocis publicus est vox vocis deus

May The Republic stand forever and bring the Glory Of The World, with Dignity, into Its Treasury.

Purple

Virtue

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By Don Stivers, July 17, 2007 at 12:41 pm Link to this comment

Regarding comment 87440 by Carl:

Way to go.  Way to go ABC News (finally).  And especially Way to go to that soldier who challenges the president to ride around with him.  He’s a REAL HERO.  A soldier who speaks out when he sees war crimes committed from a distance by the commander in chief.  Support the troops indeed.

Let’s bring those guys home.  NOW!!!!!!!


Watch that video by ABC news. 

Don Stivers

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By Mudwollow, July 17, 2007 at 12:22 pm Link to this comment

Harry Reid with balls. A bit hard to swallow (sorry). Since the clock has almost run out on this game, it’s much more likely that Mr. Reid will continue his game of pocket pool for the next 18 months.

So what was wrong with Mike Gravel’s proposal to end the war?
The Plan
1. The Speaker of the House and the Majority Leader of the Senate must coordinate the immediate introduction of the United States Armed Forces Withdrawal From Iraq Act in their respective chambers and bring the Act to final passage as soon as possible. To avoid a conference committee, amendments to the Act must not be permitted.
2. The House of Representatives will likely pass the Act first since it has a clear majority of Democrats and is not subject to a filibuster.
3. Those opposed to the Act in the Senate will undoubtedly mount a filibuster to deny passage by a simple majority. At this point the Leader must schedule a cloture vote at noon on the first day of extended debate. A cloture vote requires 60 Senators to vote to limit debate, thus permitting the Act to be voted on for final passage by majority vote.
Assuming the required 60 votes to close debate (invoking cloture) are not secured initially, the Leader must schedule a cloture vote the next day at noon, and at noon on every subsequent day until there are 60 votes to invoke cloture. The Senate must remain in session seven days a week and all vacations canceled. This is small discomfort for Congress compared to that of our soldiers dying and maimed every day in Iraq.
4. President Bush will veto the Act.
5. The same tactic that was used in the Senate to secure the 60 votes to limit debate must now be employed in both the House and the Senate to override the President’s veto. The Speaker of the House and the Majority Leader of the Senate must schedule an override vote at noon on the first day that the Act is returned to the Congress, and continue to schedule override votes at noon every day, seven days a week without vacations, until each chamber is able to override the President’s veto.
6. Once the veto is overridden and the President begins to withdraw American troops, the Congress can enact additional legislation attendant to the withdrawal.
Passage of the United States Armed Forces Withdrawal From Iraq Act will allow our nation to remove its soldiers from harm’s way and then permit the United States to pursue a diplomatic solution with nations in the region and the United Nations to end the bloody civil war Bush’s unprovoked invasion brought to Iraq.

http://www.gravel2008.us/?q=node/1191

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By eyeswideopen, July 17, 2007 at 11:48 am Link to this comment

YES YES YES! It’s abut time the Dems called the Repugs bluff! If thry want to fillibuster, LET THEM! It will show the entire nation who is REALLY prolonging this war and defying the will of the American people and common sence, which party is being obstructionist and playing partisan pollitics!

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By Eric L Prentis, July 17, 2007 at 11:47 am Link to this comment
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Senator Reid: please keep up the pressure on the right-wing Republicans in Congress, make them physically defend their obstructionist position on Iraq with a filibuster by staying up all night. The fight within the Republican ranks to see who will get no sleep will be epic. I predict that the lazy Republicans are all talk and will not want to actually filibuster and will eventually give in.

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By Carl, July 17, 2007 at 10:06 am Link to this comment
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Check this out..cant believe it made it on ABC News.
They should make those jerks watch this in congress tonight.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/story?id=3383389&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

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By Don Stivers, July 17, 2007 at 8:49 am Link to this comment

Talk, talk, talk.  Do nothing.  More American soldiers and Iraqis die.  What would have happened if the Republicans won the election?  Would they STILL be strutting around? 

And as far as Nancy “impeachment is off the table” Pelosi goes?  Vote for Cindy Sheehan.  Because I live outside of her district she does not listen.  She doesn’t have children in the war does she?

Impeach and then try for war crimes.  You Democrats are spineless.

Sincerely, Don Stivers

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By 911truthdotorg, July 16, 2007 at 10:52 pm Link to this comment

We’re not going anywhere, folks.

Read it and weep:
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=166&a=2776

Google videos: 9/11 Press for Truth, Loose Change 2nd Edition, America: Freedom to Fascism

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By Jim Goodson, July 16, 2007 at 10:31 pm Link to this comment
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Harry, Do yourself a favor, Do not start something that you cannot or intend to finish. You will need to :Show Me:  JLG

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By cyrena, July 16, 2007 at 10:08 pm Link to this comment

#87368 by Non Credo on 7/16 at 8:51 pm

My Dear Non Credo,

You are absolutely correct:

.....“We need to call Harry Reid and tell him, “This is great, as far as it goes - but you need to go a lot farther: impeach President Cheney now!”....


This is great…but we need to see it through, so we will be watching.

Meatime, we can call Nancy Pelosi, and recommend that she get her priorities straight as well, so that they are in line with these same primary objectives. And, remind her that she needs to be quick about it. Deadline…this FRIDAY. We want them GONE.

Set-up a team Nancy. You can do it.

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By Don Stivers, July 16, 2007 at 9:38 pm Link to this comment
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Holy cow!!!! 

I’m voting for Cindy Sheehan (I hope that is spelled right!)  Let’s kick out Nancy “impeachment is off the table” Pelosi (she won’t listen to me because I’m not in her district. I am from California.

All the politicians do is talk, talk, talk.  Their sons and daughters are not over there getting blown to pieces. 

How many times do we have to cry “impeach and try for war crimes”? 

Has anybody studied the Constitution to see what it says about a tyrannical government?

Bring our troops HOME!!!  They joined NOT to attack a foreign country but to defend this one at home.

Sincerely, Don Stivers

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By cyrena, July 16, 2007 at 9:30 pm Link to this comment

Comment#87283 by THOMAS BILLIS on 7/16 at 2:11 pm

THOMAS, you could be right, that it’s nothing more than a political stunt, but its SOMETHING. The real thing they have to do, (which you already noted) is to cut off the funding. Period. Basically, ALL of it. But, there has to be some sort of parliamentary procedure to get that to the table. So, this is at least a start.

This has been a long and costly lesson for the Democratic population of the Congress, especially the ones that have been around, and are still playing the politics of the status quo. They have either failed to comprehend that “politics as usual” such as these “politically polite” posturings in the alledged spirity of bipartisianship.

They have failed to understand that this current regime, (which includes all of the Republicans in Congress now and before) are NOT by any stretch of the imagine, the least bit concerned about these ethics. They have proven that they play by an entirely different set of rules, and it has simply taken the Dems an incredibly long time to figure this out.

To their very slight defense, I actually understand the long term denial.

For those who are simply the same, but from the other side of the aisle now, we can still hope that this will put the pressure on.

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By Forest Sprague, July 16, 2007 at 8:52 pm Link to this comment
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At least there is theater, a stage to which these people can act out their intentions. We will all be watching the show. The evil ones will be exposed.

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By rowdy, July 16, 2007 at 8:28 pm Link to this comment

ah, harry must have finally gone to his doctor for some testosterone or, maybe he borrowed some from hilary.

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By DennisD, July 16, 2007 at 7:56 pm Link to this comment
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Filibuster, smilibuster - keep playing by the parliamentary procedural rule book Harry as if it means jackshit to Bu$h or anyone else. Just what the hell do you hope to accomplish other than to kill time because that’s exactly what Bu$h Inc. wants. 

You pathetic creatures we call our representatives have the f**king nerve to stand up in front of the American flag as if you represent the people of the United States. What a farce.
Only a country with the piss poor leadership we have could squander it’s men, women and treasury and give everyone connected to this travesty a hall pass on accountability. Congress - f**k each and every last one of you. Those that have done nothing to change it as well as those who haven’t done enough. As for the Bu$h Inc. administration of madmen, may you all spend an eternity in hell if there is such a place.

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By Carl, July 16, 2007 at 6:07 pm Link to this comment
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Right on James V…tell it like it IS.

Amazing…“Weak Tea Reid”...man barely has the courage to wipe his ass…Go Harry… Before you go away…
He is still a pussy… Must be the the fact Sheehan is going to run against pelosi that is finally getting them off their asses to do something…

Lets see if they can actually stand up against the repub fascists…Its only been 5 years of two illegal wars and countless dead…Jerks.

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By waxman, July 16, 2007 at 5:21 pm Link to this comment

LET’S KEEP CHENEY UP ALL NIGHT TOO TO WEAR OUT THE REST OF THE SMIRKING ASSHOLES BLACK HEART..  MAYBE HIS ALDERBOY SEAN HANNITY CAN GIVE HIM BACK RUBS OR SOMETHING ELSE SEAN IS ADAPTABLE OF GIVING THE BIG BOY REPUBS..NEED SOME KY SEAN BABY ????

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By James V, July 16, 2007 at 5:08 pm Link to this comment

It’s about damned time!

It’s about time that these hapless Democrats forced the Republicans into showing the entire nation what some of us have already deduced… that they are obstructionists who have no desire to listen to the large majority of this nations citizens.

Why the hell the Democratic party has been playing nice with the Republicans and with this administration is beyond me. The only possible answer I can come up with is that they too have no desire to listen to the people nor to repair the terrible damage inflicted by President Bush and his administration of bloodthirsty hacks. Call out these lying, ignorant, corrupt P.O.S. And do it in no uncertain terms. Never again allow lies, ignorance and corruption to be passed off as truth without challenge. You have all done this nation and it’s citizens a terrible disservice.

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By ib, July 16, 2007 at 3:42 pm Link to this comment
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Go Harry!!!!

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By THOMAS BILLIS, July 16, 2007 at 3:11 pm Link to this comment
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Ah the political theater.Shakespeare would have been so proud.Be a statesmen Harry cut the funding.The democrats wonder how they lose elections when the public agrees with them?These are stunts.It is Terry Schiavo time. Just coming from the other side of the aisle.Congress’s approval rating is at exactly George Bush’s IQ and they are playing political theater with the lives of these kids.People are looking for statesmen to support not cynical stunts to prepare for an election.

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