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Posted on Jul 15, 2007
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Tense times: Pakistani troops keep watch near the town of Swat on the Afghan border.

The Taliban, which sponsored al-Qaida, is alive and well on both sides of the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan and, following last week’s Red Mosque showdown in Pakistan, pro-Taliban militants are retaliating by breaking a 10-month truce and unleashing violence in the country’s northern region.


BBC:

In the city of Dera Ismail Khan ... at least 26 people died in a blast at a police recruitment centre.

More than 30 were wounded when a suicide bomber blew himself up among young men waiting to take a police recruitment exam.

On Saturday, a suicide attack on an army convoy near the village of Daznary, about 50km (30 miles) north of Miranshah, killed 24 and wounded at least 30.

The area is well-known as a stronghold of pro-Taleban militants, police said.

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By X Pakistani, July 18, 2007 at 8:25 am Link to this comment
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Where I agree with many of commentrators, there are a number of factors involved in a country made hot bed of terrorists started in 1980s thanks CIA/ ISI & Saudi alliance. The actual numbers are almost impossible to predict who support them there is a sizable minority but as rightly pointed out almost all the media is controlled/ fundamentalist sympathisier (all the hard work CIA agent General Zia put in) another reason for trouble is explained here:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IG17Df03.html

All in all people are fad up with General and meddling of CIA Inc in the country many pray for a Iran like revolution (though unlikely)could have disastorous results for the USA. Many politians are openly oppsing US meddling. My money would be a Benazir / General alliance to form the next government obviously under blessing on Uncle Sam. The big bad (& dead) OBL/ Al Qaeda & their puppets will carry on scaring Americans/ Westerns into submission/ letting there government carry on slaughtering millions for pure greed $$$.

PS. China & Russians are getting involved, by inviting Pakistan to SCO. Also China feels its investments in the Pakiland is under threat & asking for some answers.

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By blog dog, July 16, 2007 at 5:59 pm Link to this comment

RE: #87277 by don knutsen on 7/16 at 1:21 pm
(37 comments total) — If we had an administration that was truly interested in dealing with terrorists. They would have long ago zeroed in on Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, where a majority of the fundamentalist schools that are preaching their hatred of the west are, instead of following this neo-con adventure of Chen

====== it’s all the same plan - those schools are supported by the CIA, MI-6 and MOSSASD, just like Al Queda - the master plan is to explode the entire region into incomprehensible chaos - not because of a mythological Christian Armageddon - but because this will fail every state and leave them ripe to be carved up into bite-size bits - easier to terrorize and easier to control - The Global War Of Terror is scheduled for 100 years - it’s spreading now to Pakistan - all states are scheduled to be failed and scared witless - to the point of accepting any form of “peacekeeping” (i.e. protection) the hegemons offer - oldest game in the book - sure Bush is a moron - the most useful fool on the block - the real trouble-makers are armed, funded and directed by CIA, MI-6 and MOSSAD - the reign of black-ops/psy-ops is spreading like the plague - expect more terror everywhere, even more 911s…oldest trick in the book - and if this seems over the top, you must remember this:


“The Central Intelligence Agency owns anyone of any significance in the major media.” — Former CIA Director William Colby

and this:

“Deception is a state of mind and the mind of the State” - James Jesus Angleton, Head of CIA Counter Intelligence 1954-1974

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By don knutsen, July 16, 2007 at 2:21 pm Link to this comment

If we had an administration that was trully interested in dealing with terrorists. They would have long ago zero’d in on Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, where a majority of the fundimentalist schools that are preaching their hatred of the west are, instead of following this neo-con adventure of Cheney & Co. Pakistan even has nuclear weapons, and appears to be on the tipping point of going to an islamic state as soon as they manage to blow up the current leader somewhere. We need to pull out of the area all together with our military and offer what humanitarian assistance we can along with the rest of the United Nations to begin to do something positive for the peoples of the middle east for a change instead bombing them into the freedom loving lovers of democracy we know they, deep down, really are. Our answer has been, since Saint Ronald Reagan, to just shove our mis-guided weight around, needlessly killing scores of innocents in the process, without any apparent concern for what that obviously does what they think of america. This is what Ron Paul was saying during the GOP debates. True to form, Guilianni took it as an oppurtunity to spew more of the bu$h talking points he has memorized so well. But Ron Paul had it right, the only one amongst that party certainly, who has his eyes open.

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By nefertiti, July 16, 2007 at 1:58 pm Link to this comment

I do not think it is AL Qaeeda that is going to cause trouble in Pakistan , but the pakistani themselves who are fed up of the Dictator who is behaving like a true fascist , without paying attention to the locals , their customs their rights ,  the baluch and the Waziris sit on the best Gas reserves of gas in Pakistan , yet do not have access to gas , roads , schools , proper homes or health clinics . when the people complain he sends the Cobras and the F16s (paid for by Saudia ) to calm them down and bomb their mud homes .

destroying the mosque , and killing so many students and even burying many in mass graves , to lie to the world about numbers was the worst thing the General has done .
This country was created to care for the Muslim community and give the muslims rights they did not have before and now mosques are targeted and turned to rubble . He could have started with honest dialogue instead of shooting at people . the demonstrations held this week end , tell me something is going to happen to this stooge .  i also found an interesting article here

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,494604,00.html

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By THOMAS BILLIS, July 16, 2007 at 7:21 am Link to this comment
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Hey I have an idea let’s bring democracy to Pakistan.We must support a dictatorship in Pakistan so that the radicals do not take over and have nuclear weapons.What bullshit.Pakistans radicals number no more than 15% and there has never been a radical Paskitani government.Corrupt yes but not radical.How much worse could it be for us in Pakistan with a Democratic government.According to the NIE Al Qaida has reconstructed its operations to pre 911 strength.If our esteemed leader is such a proponent of Democracy why not Pakistan.By the way I hope that he has been told that Saudi Arabia also is not a democracy.

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By Expat, July 16, 2007 at 7:16 am Link to this comment

#87209 by jatihoon on 7/16 at 5:55 am

I would agree that is pretty much it.

Well said.

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By jatihoon, July 16, 2007 at 6:55 am Link to this comment

it is not bush war or Cheney war or Osama war, or Muslim war or Christian war or Hindu war ” It is war on Truth” World must wake up and start searching for Real Truth and that is we are all created equal and hence must be treated equal not by war but by peaceful dialogue. That is the real truth.

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By Expat, July 16, 2007 at 6:40 am Link to this comment

#87171 by Bukko in Australia on 7/15 at 11:10 pm
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“I keep thinking, maybe President Cheney has a secret plan.”

He does indeed.  But it’s so vile and evil that we would never believe it and therein is the beauty of it.  Kafka, Orwell, Huxley, and Eisenhower have all warned us of a future so horrible and “unbelievable” (for us) we just saw it as good science fiction.  Well, the future is here now and it is us…here…now…in America…coming soon to a country near you…maybe you.

We need to ask…how do we stop this?  The correct answer to this question is life itself.

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By farmertx, July 16, 2007 at 3:06 am Link to this comment

Good on you mate, but, as plausible as that therory is, especially in light of all else that we have learned of these two, I’m afraid that you’re correct ion thinking that too much credit is given.
Now, if Halliburton had a secret codicil to receive a bounty for each dead Muslim…

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By Bukko in Australia, July 16, 2007 at 12:10 am Link to this comment

I keep thinking, maybe President Cheney has a secret plan. He’s going to get all the Muslims in southwest Asia killing each other. He’s touched it off in Iraq; it was already going on in Afghanistan and now the U.S. has added more firepower; the Lebanese have resumed the fratricidal war that started in 1975, and cracks are developing in the social fabric of Iran and Pakistan. Then you’ve got African Muslim conflict in Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria…

Perhaps that is Dick-tor Evil’s aim—get all the Muslims to kill each other! It’s totally immoral, to encourage carnage, and it would be a sure ticket to Hell, if there was one. But it would be bloody genius!

Then I remember how these neocon criminals can’t do anything right except steal from the U.S. Treasury, and I realise I’m giving them too much credit.

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By farmertx, July 15, 2007 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment

Duhbyas’ plan to bring peace to the world has developed a hitch in its get along. ‘Course he don’t much talk about that anymore, just wants to bring American Style Democracy to Iraq.
At least the Iraqi politician’s are catching on faster than their Army and police forces are. They can’t agree on anything and are taking the month off…because it is too hot to sit in an air conditioned building and try to salvage their country.
Thankfully it isn’t that hot outside, so the Anerican troops can keep fighting their battle for them.

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