28 Palestinians die at Rafah Crossing

Director of the ambulance and emergency
department in the Palestinian ministry of health, Dr
Mu’awiya Hassanein, on Saturday announced the deaths
of 28 Palestinians who had been trapped at Rafah
Crossing, between Egypt and the Gaza Strip, since the
1st of June.

Dr Hassanein said that the Palestinian health ministry
was able to deliver the corpses to the Gaza Strip,
through the Kerem Shalom Crossing, with the
coordination of the Egyptian ambulance services.

All of the deceased were Palestinians who had
travelled to Egypt for medical treatment. They died
due to the lack of medical care provided to some 4,000
Palestinians waiting at the crossing to return to the
strip.

The corpses were held in morgues in Egypt, before
arrangements were made to return them to Gaza.

Hassanein said that the continued closure of the
crossing is extremely dangerous, especially as 20% of
waiting Palestinians are suffering from chronic health
problems.

Among the dead were women, children and the elderly.

There are also heavily-pregnant women waiting at the
crossing.

Hassanein expressed his appreciation of the Egyptian
ambulance services that aided the passage of the
corpses and offered humanitarian services.

The families of the trapped Palestinians are powerless
to help; they have held demonstrations and rallies
calling for the reopening of the crossings. The
stranded citizens have also sent appeals from their
mobile phones to TV stations.

Hamas held a rally on Saturday, demanding the
reopening of Rafah Crossing.

A Palestinian girl, Amal Habib, told Ma’an that she
has seventeen family members trapped at Rafah
Crossing.

Cerena, Jews did fight back--the last remnants of the Jewish community in the Warsaw Ghetto, with an assortment of mostly pistols and rifles, held off the Third Reich for nearly three weeks.

Today, I see walled-in Gaza, overcrowded and desparate, as a 21st Century replica of the Warsaw Ghetto.  Let’s hope that, this time, people of good will the world over, including many Israelis who are fed up with the occupation, step forward before Gaza experiences a similar “last stand.”

Cold-blooded murderers even with their own children:

Can anyone imagine what would the Zionists reaction be if a gentile had voiced this chilling statement of Ben-Gurion:

“If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England, and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Yisrael, then I would opt for the second alternative.”

“The Cruel Criteria of Zionism”

http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch13.htm

The Israeli scholar Abraham Margaliot has written about a speech given by Weizmann before the Zionist Executive in 1935:

he declared that: the Zionist movement would have to choose between the immediate rescue of Jews and the establishment of a national project which would ensure lasting redemption for the Jewish people. Under such circumstances, the movement, according to Weizmann, must choose the latter course.

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{not even the terrible danger to the Jews of Central Europe, nor their own abandonment by their imperial patron could shake the determination of the leaders of the WZO: under no circumstances was Zionism to be shunted aside in the now frantic scramble to find havens for the desperate Jews.

When, after Kristallnacht, the British, in the hope of easing the pressure for increased immigration into Palestine, proposed that thousands of children be admitted directly into Britain, Ben-Gurion was absolutely against the plan, telling a meeting of Labour Zionist leaders on 7 December 1938:

“If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England, and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Yisrael, then I would opt for the second alternative.”}

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Ben-Gurion persisted, refusing to contemplate other sanctuaries. On 17 December 1938 he warned the Zionist Executive:

“If Jews will have to choose between the refugees, saving Jews from concentration camps, and assisting a national museum in Palestine, mercy will have the upper hand and the whole energy of the people will be channelled into saving Jews from various countries. Zionism will be struck off the agenda...”

German Zionism offers to collaborate with Nazism

http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch05.htm

The Jewish Anti-Nazi Boycott and the Zionist-Nazi Trade Agreement

http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch06.htm

The then world-famous popular biographer Emil Ludwig, was interviewed by a fellow Zionist on a visit to America and expressed the general attitude of the Zionist movement:

“Hitler will be forgotten in a few years, but he will have a beautiful monument in Palestine. You know”, and here the biographer-historian seemed to assume the role of a patriarchal Jew – “the coming of the Nazis was rather a welcome thing. So many of our German Jews were hovering between two coasts; so many of them were riding the treacherous current between the Scylla of assimilation and the Charybdis of a nodding acquaintance with Jewish things. Thousands who seemed to be completely lost to Judaism were brought back to the fold by Hitler, and for that I am personally very grateful to him.”

Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis

By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, Reviewed by Sara Powell

http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/zion ist_collaboration_with_the_nazis.htm


{ It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators, Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few limits to that expediency.

Not surprisingly, the book received little coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and judgements-some of which appeared in his earlier book-by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperation with the Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner presents the case-made in many Zionists’ own words-that the Nazi agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a new Jewish nation. 

51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however, are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that they had a financial deal-Ha’avara-with Germany allowing Jews to exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists today are so organized and experienced in their public relations efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover, the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the same concept.

51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their threatened European brethren.}
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From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb. 18, 1943:

And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod (Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said: “No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
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“It is right, therefore, that they should fight against us”

http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch03.htm

In 1925 the most vehement protagonist of total abstentionism, Jacob Klatzkin, the co-editor of the massive Encyclopedia Judaica, laid down the full implications of the Zionist approach to anti-Semitism:

“If we do not admit the rightfulness of anti-semitism, we deny the rightfulness of our own nationalism. If our people is deserving and willing to live its own national life, then it is an alien body thrust into the nations among whom it lives, an alien body that insists on its own distinctive identity, reducing the domain of their life.

It is right, therefore, that they should fight against us for their national integrity Instead of establishing societies for defense against the anti-semites, who want to reduce our rights, we should establish societies for defense against our friends who desire to defend our rights. ”

The ultimate goal of arab islam is ethnic cleansing.

Comment#85214 by Ernest Canning on 7/08 at 6:49 pm

Your response to lefty about his suggestions that the Palestinian children didn’t deserve to live, and the Arabs should just leave Palestine:

“The ultimate goal of Zionism is ethnic cleansing.  Sad that the children and grandchildren of the racist oppression of the Nazis have now become the perpetrators."…

I have thought this so very many times, and continue to puzzel over it. In far less brutal circumstances, we might call this the case of the “abused” becoming the “abusers”.

But, this goes far deeper, and is far more sinister, because it’s lasted so long, and we know now, that they never intended it to be any other way.

The other thing I’ve always wondered, was why they didn’t try to fight back during that time? (the Holocaust) Maybe they did, and I just never learned of it. Or maybe there was just no way. I don’t know though...seems like I would have been swinging my bat, at least until I couldn’t swing it any longer.

Anyway, it’s pretty much cast in stone by now, that this really IS their “real mentality”. Ethnic cleansing is their only solution. Even then, they wouldn’t be happy.

THE NAZI ROOTS OF PALESTINIAN NATIONALISM!
http://www.themiddleeastnow.com/musnazi.html
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QUOTES:

Support for Nazism was not limited to the former Mufti. Here are some quotes from Arab leaders on Hitler, and Nazism:

“We admired the Nazis. We were immersed in reading Nazi literature and books . . . . We were the first who thought of [an Arab] translation of Mein Kampf. Anyone who lived in Damascus at that time was witness to the Arab inclination toward Nazism,” recalled Sami al-Joundi, one of the founders of Syria’s ruling Ba’ath Party.

Indeed, a popular WWII song was heard in the Middle East featuring words: Bissama Allah, oria alard Hitler - in heaven Allah, on earth Hitler. Picking up the theme of the book, posters were put up in Arab markets and elsewhere proclaiming, “In heaven Allah is thy ruler; on earth Adolph Hitler.”

John Gunther of Inside Asia reported: “The greatest contemporary Arab hero is probably Hitler.”

In October 1933, pro-Axis Young Egypt Party was founded. Styling itself of its German ideal, the new party built a storm-trooper unit, marching with torches under the slogan “One folk, One party, One Leader.” Among the members was the young Gamal Abdel Nasser. Nasser’s brother, Nassiri, was the translator of Hitler’s Mein Kampf into Arabic, describing the Fascist despot in glowing terms.

Another future Egyptian President, Anwar Sadat, was imprisoned during World War II for cooperating with Adolf Hitler’s regime. Towards the end of World War II, Sadat wrote to the Fuhrer: “My dear Hitler, I congratulate you from the bottom of my heart. Even if you appear to have been defeated, in reality you are the victor. You succeeded in creating dissensions between Churchill, the old man, and his allies, the Sons of Satan. Germany will win because her existence is necessary to preserve the world balance. Germany will be reborn in spite of the Western and Eastern powers. There will be no peace unless Germany once again becomes what she was.”

A few years prior to writing this letter, Anwar Sadat contacted Muslim Brotherhood’s leader Hassan al-Banna, an ardent supporter of Nazi Germany. The meeting put Sadat in contact with Abd al-Munim Adb al-Rauf, who went on to become a leading member of the Free Officers and a chief propagandist and protagonist of the Brotherhood. Both men tried to join the pro-Axis fighters in Iraq, but failed. Sadat also met with Dr. Ibrahim Hasan, the second deputy of Ikhwan. The two gentlemen agreed that “salvation of the country could be assured only by a coup at the hands of the military” because of the King’s support for the Allies. On February 24, 1945, the Prime Minister of Egypt was assassinated by a member of the National Party as he was reading the declaration of war against Germany.

source: Nazi roots of Palestinian nationalism

Comment#85210 by Fadel Abdallah on 7/08 at 6:27 pm

Fadel, this is a very good question/observation:

And furthermore, why there is always this big hype in the West about Iran’s or South Korea’s nuclear intentions and their implications for world insecurity, while Israel’s weapons of mass destruction, including 200 nuclear bombs are never mentioned by Western politicians?! And they will always have to repeat the hollow and meaningless words of “they hate us for our freedoms and democracy.”

All of this stuff with the “terrorist hype” really only began after this current regime hijacked our government. And, they keep getting away with it, because they’ve simply dumbed-down the American population. I don’t know when it happened, or how I missed it, but....that’s the way it is now.

BUT, have hope, because I’m sure there are more than a few of us, who never believed the BS about our “freedoms” being the reason for the say ‘animosity’ of other nation states? Oh no, we never believed that. We may have agreed that other peoples of the world, (and specifically in the Middle East) might have a real problem with the “freedoms” that we practice in other countries where we aren’t invited. And, we understand why they might have trouble with our “freedoms” to just shoot them at check-points, because our soldiers are barely old enough to shave, probably never been away from home, got 6 weeks worth of boot camp, and not even an Arabic translator cheat-sheet to carry with them. So, they’re nervous, making things worse, while some other element filters in and starts doing suicide operations.

Yeah, I’m sure the people of the region really DO hate those “freedoms” that we exercise in their sovereign space.

Meantime, Fadel..you’re right. Nobody says a thing about all of those nukes that Israel is sitting on. They must have one for every citizen.

Elsewhere on this site, our resident Zionist propagandist, Ephaim “Lefty” Pesach, argued that Palestinian children did not have a right to live.  Now, in response to Atheo, he tells us that Arabs should get out of Palestine.  Finally, as a result of his many rants, the truth emerges.  The ultimate goal of Zionism is ethnic cleansing.  Sad that the children and grandchildren of the racist oppression of the Nazis have now become the perpetrators.

Fadel,

“It’s our hypocrisy, split vision”

Consider that these are more rightly owned by the zionist controlled western media (including foundation funded “alternative” sources).

I am sure this piece of information was circulated around on these threads before. However, every time there is high profile terrorist act or an attempt at a terrorist operation, one must always think about the Israeli connection. 9/11 was a necessary prelude for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and last year’s terrorist operation in London and these so-called latest attempts are also another necessary prelude for what they are going to do to Muslims in the U.K. and elsewhere.

The Mossad Zionist motto is:

“By way of deception we will wage war.”

We know that the CIA in particular has been involved in political assassinations, overthrowing nationalist government and setting-up terrorist acts when it saw expedient to do so in many countries. Israel’s Mossad is even worse than the CIA when it comes to spreading mischief and violence on earth. They are the unparallel masters in this art of secret terrorist wars.

The CIA does these terrorist acts in secret. They don’t have an openly declared motto about what they do. The Israelis in defiance of all moral and legal principles the world has known declare:

“By way of deception we will wage war.”

Why the world media, academia, and Western political circles never take the time to discuss this statement and analyze its implication for war, chaos, terrorism and evil in the world?!

And furthermore, why there is always this big hype in the West about Iran’s or South Korea’s nuclear intentions and their implications for world insecurity, while Israel’s weapons of mass destruction, including 200 nuclear bombs are never mentioned by Western politicians?! And they will always have to repeat the hollow and meaningless words of “they hate us for our freedoms and democracy.”

Shit, big shit! It’s our hypocrisy, split vision, militarism and secret terrorism that they hate us for, stupid! And they are justified in that hate, especially that everyone of us, through our tax-payer money, have innocent blood on our hands!

History of the Car Bomb
New-generation car bombers are graduates of CIA terrorism schools
by Mike Davis

...The members of the Stern Gang were ardent students of violence, self-declared Jewish admirers of Mussolini who steeped themselves in the terrorist traditions of the pre-1917 Russian Socialist-Revolutionary Party, the Macedonian IMRO, and the Italian Blackshirts. As the most extreme wing of the Zionist movement in Palestine—“fascists” to the Haganah and “terrorists” to the British—they were morally and tactically unfettered by considerations of diplomacy or world opinion. They had a fierce and well-deserved reputation for the originality of their operations and the unexpectedness of their attacks. On January 12, 1947, as part of their campaign to prevent any compromise between mainstream Zionism and the British Labor government, they exploded a powerful truck bomb in the central police station in Haifa, resulting in 144 casualties. Three months later, they repeated the tactic in Tel Aviv, blowing up the Sarona police barracks (5 dead) with a stolen postal truck filled with dynamite…

Re: #85165 by Ernest Canning on 7/08 at 3:02 pm

Ernie, you have to learn to interpret arab propaganda.  Filibusterforpeace is arab, islamst, fundamentalist code for Suicidebombforpeace!

Re: #85175 by atheo on 7/08 at 11:31 pm
(171 comments total)

Well stated:

“This is really not rocket science.  The way you end an illegal occupation is to LEAVE!”

The same applies to Palestine.
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I agree, atheo!  The arabs should get out!

nahida, I admired your latest post for the same reason I admired Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11.  What made Fahrenheit stand out was not Moore’s ascerbic humor, though certain Moore’s humor makes for good entertainment. 

Prior to Fahrenheit, Americans were reduced to observing war from the perspective of those dropping the bombs from on high--colorful lightshows presented on Fox, CNN and the other networks with anchors acting more like cheer leaders than journalists and propagandistic phrases like “Showdown Iraq” and “Target Iraq” flashing across the screen.

The brilliance of Fahrenheit was that Moore depicted this horror from the point of view of those upon whom the bombs were falling.  The brilliance of your relatively brief comment is that it depicts the war in Iraq from the point of view of the occupied rather than the occupier.

Well stated:

“This is really not rocket science.  The way you end an illegal occupation is to LEAVE!”

The same applies to Palestine.

Atheo, Thanks for the link to FilibusterForPeace.  While this war was started by the Bush administration’s lies, since January 2006 the responsibility for the continuation of the illegal occupation falls squarely on the so-called Democratic leadership.  The way Congress could have and can still stop this war is to withhold the funds.  It doesn’t require a “veto-proof” majority in either the House or the Senate.  The democrats hold a solid majority in the House.  All they had to do was block funding.  Only 41 Senate Democrats were needed to block further funding via a filibuster.

The so-called “Support the troops” argument is an Orwellian canard.  You don’t “support the troops” by enabling the Bush regime to leave them in harm’s way.  You betray them!

H.R. 1234 (Kucinich) provided a straight forward means for orderly withdrawal of both troops and the parasites and mercenaries we euphemistically refer to as “civilian contractors” using the funds that are already in the pipeline.  For more details, go to
http://www.kucinich.us

This is really not rocket science.  The way you end an illegal occupation is to LEAVE!

At this point in this thread, I think that this article is relevant:

James Petras:

In contrast to the successful vast propaganda, congressional and media campaigns, organized and funded by the pro-Israel lobbies for the war policies, there is no public record of the big oil companies supporting the Iraq war, the Israeli invasion of Lebanon or the military threats of preemptive attacks on Iran. Interviews with investment bankers, oil company executives and a thorough review of the major Petroleum Institute publications over the past seven years provide conclusive evidence that ‘Big Oil’ was deeply interested in negotiating oil agreements with Saddam Hussein and the Iranian Islamic government. ‘Big Oil’ perceives US Middle East wars as a threat to their long-standing profitable relations with all the conservative Arab oil states in the Gulf. Despite the strategic position in the US economy and their great wealth ‘‘Big Oil’ was totally incapable of countering their political power and organized influence of the pro-Israel lobby. In fact Big Oil was totally marginalized by the White House National Security Advisor for the Middle East, Elliot Abrams, a fanatical Zionist and militarist.

Despite the massive and sustained pro-war activity of the leading Zionist organizations inside and outside of the government and despite the absence of any overt or covert pro-war campaign by ‘Big Oil’, the leaders of the US peace movement have refused to attack the pro-Israel war lobby and continue to mouth unfounded clichés about the role of ‘Big Oil’ in the Middle East conflicts.

The apparently ‘radical’ slogans against the oil industry by some leading intellectual critics of the war has served as a ‘cover’ to avoid the much more challenging task of taking on the powerful, Zionist lobby. There are several reasons for the failure of the leaders of the peace movement to confront the militant Zionist lobby. One is fear of the powerful propaganda and smear campaign which the pro-Israel lobby is expert at mounting, with its aggressive accusations of ‘anti-Semitism’ and its capacity to blacklist critics, leading to job loss, career destruction, public abuse and death threats.

The second reason that peace leaders fail to criticize the leading pro-war lobby is because of the influence of pro-Israel ‘progressives’ in the movement. These progressives condition their support of ‘peace in Iraq’ only if the movement does not criticize the pro-war Israel lobby in and outside the US government, the role of Israel as a belligerent partner to the US in Lebanon, Palestine and Kurdish Northern Iraq. A movement claiming to be in favor of peace, which refuses to attack the main proponents of war, is pursuing irrelevance: it deflects attention from the pro-Israel high officials in the government and the lobbyists in Congress who back the war and set the White House’s Middle East agenda. By focusing attention exclusively on President Bush, the peace leaders failed to confront the majority pro-Israel Democratic congress people who fund Bush’s war, back his escalation of troops and give unconditional support to Israel’s military option for Iran.

full article:

http://petras.lahaine.org/articu...1704&more=1& c=1

A Message From The “Iraq Resistance”

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7468.htm
start quote:

{People of the world! These words come to you from those who up to the day of the invasion were struggling to survive under the sanctions imposed by the criminal regimes of the U.S. and Britain .

We are simple people who chose principles over fear.

We have suffered crimes and sanctions, which we consider the true weapons of mass destruction.

Years and years of agony and despair, while the condemned UN traded with our oil revenues in the name of world stability and peace.

Over two million innocents died waiting for a light at the end of a tunnel that only ended with the occupation of our country and the theft of our resources.

After the crimes of the administrations of the U.S and Britain in Iraq , we have chosen our future. The future of every resistance struggle ever in the history of man.

It is our duty, as well as our right, to fight back the occupying forces, which their nations will be held morally and economically responsible; for what their elected governments have destroyed and stolen from our land.

We have not crossed the oceans and seas to occupy Britain or the U.S. nor are we responsible for 9/11. These are only a few of the lies that these criminals present to cover their true plans for the control of the energy resources of the world, in face of a growing China and a strong unified Europe . It is Ironic that the Iraqi’s are to bear the full face of this large and growing conflict on behalf of the rest of this sleeping world.

We thank all those, including those of Britain and the U.S. , who took to the streets in protest against this war and against Globalism. We also thank France , Germany and other states for their position, which least to say are considered wise and balanced, til now.

Today, we call on you again.

We do not require arms or fighters, for we have plenty.

We ask you to form a world wide front against war and sanctions. A front that is governed by the wise and knowing. A front that will bring reform and order. New institutions that would replace the now corrupt.

Stop using the U.S. dollar, use the Euro or a basket of currencies. Reduce or halt your consumption of British and U.S. products. Put an end to Zionism before it ends the world. Educate those in doubt of the true nature of this conflict and do not believe their media for their casualties are far higher than they admit.

We only wish we had more cameras to show the world their true defeat.

Know that by helping the Iraqi people you are helping yourselves, for tomorrow may bring the same destruction to you.

In helping the Iraqi people does not mean dealing for the Americans for a few contracts here and there. You must continue to isolate their strategy.

This conflict is no longer considered a localized war. Nor can the world remain hostage to the never-ending and regenerated fear that the American people suffer from in general.

We will pin them here in Iraq to drain their resources, manpower, and their will to fight. We will make them spend as much as they steal, if not more.

We will disrupt, then halt the flow of our stolen oil, thus, rendering their plans useless.

And the earlier a movement is born, the earlier their fall will be.

And to the American soldiers we say, you can also choose to fight tyranny with us. Lay down your weapons, and seek refuge in our mosques, churches and homes. We will protect you. And we will get you out of Iraq , as we have done with a few others before you.

Go back to your homes, families, and loved ones. This is not your war. Nor are you fighting for a true cause in Iraq .

And to George W. Bush, we say, “You have asked us to ‘Bring it on’, and so have we. Like never expected. Have you another challenge?”}
end quote.

#85105 by Enemy of State
The fact that soldiers sign on believing they are fighting for something worthwhile doesn’t make them any less suicidal. Of course our military system encourages soldiers to attempt to survive and uses the fallen soldier as a vehicle for further and more forceful campaign. “THEY SHOT JOHNNY!!!” Of course they friggin’ shot Johnny. Johnny was running at them with a machine gun in hand.
Although the US military encourages survival if possible, aside form the most accomplished survivors, the greatest honor ever goes to the dead soldiers. Whose faces get shown on the news on a weekly basis, the fallen. We even have a holiday for them.
The willingness to die for ones beliefs (taking out as many of the enemy as one can) in the process, is what characterizes bravery.
The overall point is they are brave soldiers by definition. I am sure there is a “THEY SHOT JOHNNY!!!” attitude among many, but I wonder how many US soldiers, those truly devoted to their trade, hold some degree of (perhaps secret) respect for these suicide bombers. 
In the initial entry, I specified those bombers who blow up foreign soldiers. I suppose they are defined by their actions, as I assume many who die blowing up soldiers might be equally willing to do so blowing up civilians.

atheo:

Your observations are correct, but the numbers of soldier suicides are greatly exaggerated. Its will still be a serious problem though.

I don’t think most soldiers signed up as a suicide volunteer. Most joined before the character of this war/presidency became apparent, and are trapped. They were willing to take a certain amount of risk that they might have to defend their country against a legitimate threat, and simply got blindsided.

As for the suicide bombers, most aren’t even religious fanatics. Their actions are more out of desperation -and being put into a position by clever manipulators where they thought they had no honourable way out.

Great Satan,

“All wartime soldiers are basically suicidal. Maybe you could send out letters to everyone of our troops recommending they use a suicide machine”

So true. I think the “machine” is called heroin, though many prefer alcohol. Look for hundreds of thousands of these suicides many accompanied by murders of those close to them over the coming decade. You see, getting killed by the enemy is the easy way out, the sorriest are those that return home. I lived through the 70’s and know from experience.

The suicide bombing of American and all foreign soldiers in Iraq is completely understandable. I would think that any true “warrior” would respect the bravery of his enemy. Even the opponents of the war extol the bravery of our troops who put their lives on the line, and especially those who actually die in combat. Its all just the rhetoric of war propaganda.

#84967 by THOMAS BILLIS
Do you think they will just run out of suicide bombers? More likely as their suicide bombers are considered great martyrs, they will just increase. We’ve already been at war in Iraq longer than were at war with Japan.
So far as your inane Kevorkian comment, you just demonstrate the capacity for logical fallacy that constitutes the entire body of neocon rhetoric. Even Robert Kagan recognizes the insurgency as a natural response to an occupation.
All wartime soldiers are basically suicidal. Maybe you could send out letters to everyone of our troops recommending they use a suicide machine.

The Bush regime’s escalation...errr “surge”...theme stands the song from the 60’s peace movement on its head.

“All we are saying...is give war a chance?

Hmmm, I think I like the original ("peace") version better.

Filibuster for peace (only 41 Senators needed to put an end to the
slaughter in Iraq). Take action today:

http://WWW.FilibusterForPeace.org

Robert Fisk was walking through a Palestinian refugee camp and was commenting to a companion that if he had to live in such terrible conditions, he would commit suicide.

His companion said, “You have just given me a reason why there has been such an increase in suicide bombings.”

#85003 by nahida on 7/08 at 5:59 am
(160 comments total)

Dr. Dahlia Wasfi - Life in Iraq Under U.S. Occupation

Must Watch Video

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17979.htm
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Thank you Nahida for the link to this courageous speech by Dr. Dahlia Wasfi. She courageously called a spade a spade. Let’s say, if we have one thousand individuals around the country of the caliber of Dahlia Wasfi, it will certainly help in toppling down the current evil government in Washington D.C.

What’s special about this lady is that she is a Jew from Iraqi background. This is a cousin that all Americans of Arab and Muslim background should embrace and be proud of.

I feel upset about the fact that this event was here in Chicago where I live; I should’ve been able to attend had I known about it in advance!

Dr. Dahlia Wasfi - Life in Iraq Under U.S. Occupation

Must Watch Video

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17979.htm

I wonder if the newspaper just have fill in the blank forms for these sorts of reports by mow.

Brutal military surge of an occupation army = Suicidal surge.

Suicidal attacks = the weapons of choice of the weak and the oppressed.

These are two simple equations that a fourth grader should be able to understand by now.

But, did Bush and gang ever received a fourth grade education?!