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The Next Generation of FascistsPosted on Jul 2, 2007
At a rock concert in Zagreb, Croatia, this weekend, a young generation of concert-goers displayed a disturbing nostalgia for fascism. Thousands of fans responded to rock star Marko Perkovic by giving the Nazi salute and shouting slogans from WWII. Perkovic, who fought in the Croatian army, consistently incorporates this fascist exchange during his acts. His public affairs manager, Albino Ursic, dismissed the Nazi salute as merely “teenage rebellion.” The crowd also showed off fascist regalia: Some fans were wearing black caps from Croatia’s Nazi-affiliated Ustache government, which was responsible for sending thousands to the concentration camps. The concert was attended by an estimated 40,000 people and was shown during prime time on state-owned television.
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By nelson, July 30, 2007 at 11:34 am # those people are acting no different than a terrorist! I think that that singer is Marko Perkovic is taking advantage of the young generation and brainwashing them with evil propaganda. Much like Western Hip Hop but to a greater degree of hatred!
By Mali, July 9, 2007 at 5:27 am # Thompson is the best. He sings about peace and love. he sings about home,peace,love,country,belief....
By Katarina, July 9, 2007 at 1:23 am # I am deeply disturbed by any display of ustasa iconography. It came into the open at the beginning of 1990’s, with F. Tudjman and his imported immigrants like Susak. All of a sudden there were kiosks selling ustasa symbols in the center of Zagreb. Since that day, I live in exile in the country which, until then, I had considered my home land. My close relatives, Croats as well as Serbs, lost their lives in ustasa concentrations camps, so you can imagine how I feel. By most comments here you can see how any ustasa displays are made out as something not very important and how our top politicians participate in glorifying ustasa movement. Others see Croatians as Nazi loving people, and they are not wrong. I know that I am judged the same way by my passport, but what can I do? Teach my children historical facts and that is about all. But powerful countries like USA, Russia etc. can make a difference. In this case, not grant visas to ministers and other prominent participants of this shameful event.
By Mel Wolfe, July 5, 2007 at 1:38 pm # JFK --whose initials are as phony as your fake “julia gorin” website—Julia’s real website is http://www.juliagorin.com and refutes everything you’ve said! Here is the actual testimony of Jasa Almuli, past President of the Jewish Community of Belgrade and past Vice-President of Jewish Communities in Yugoslavia re WWII Serbs and Jews: http://www.srpska-mreza.com/History/ww2/Jews/Almuli.html “The allegation that the regime of Milan Nedic, installed by the Germans in Serbia in August 1941., enthusiastically participated in the Holocaust, is the second incorrect statement in Mr. Hoare’s letter. No anti - Jewish legislation was passed by this regime, no death camp for Jews was established or run by it and virtually no killing perpetrated. All that was done by the German Army, police and SS which had almost entirely destroyed the Serbian Jewish population by May 1942., although several hundred Jews were still hiding with Serbian friends. The German police were hunting them and many were caught with the help of police loyal to Nedic’s regime, attracted by the financial reward the Germans were paying. This is all that can be found about Nedic in the published research of the Federation of Jewish Communities in Yugoslavia. The Germans themselves dealt with the Jews in Serbia; the duty of Nedic‘s regime was to carry out internal administration.” In the fascist Independent State of Croatia, which was Hitler’s ally during the Second World War, not 24,000 but over 33,000 Jews lost their lives, about 21,000 from Croatia proper and 12,000 from Bosnia - Herzegovina, which was annexed to Croatia with Germany’s blessing. The great majority of the 33,000 Jewish victims were killed or starved and tortured to death in concentration camps in Croatia proper run by Croatia Ustashe guards. About five thousand were handed to the Germans to be deported to Auschwitz.” Quit trying to throw mud on the Serbs to deflect from the righteous criticism of today’s budding fascists in Croatia. The red herring won’t work on anything other than stupid people!
By jfk, July 5, 2007 at 10:24 am # well Marcvs Agrippa that is topical lie placed by serbs so let me put arguments : The Serbian government under General Milan Nedic worked closely with local Nazi officials in making Belgrade the first “Judenfrei” city of Europe. As late as 19 September 1943, Nedic made an official visit to Adolf Hitler (see picture on first link), Serbs in Berlin advanced the idea that the Serbs were the “Ubermenchen” (master race) of the Slavs. The Serbian historian Sretenije Zrokić says that of the 11,870 Belgrade Jews only 1,115 or 9% survived the war. It was not only the Germans who captured and killed the Jews in Serbia, rather it was the Serbian Police, Nedić’s volunteers and Chetniks . Most were killed in the Sajmište and Banjica concentration camps. Not a single Jew managed to escape from the camps. http://juliagorin.blogspot.com/2007/06/on-what-side-wa s-serbian-chetniks-in.html But here is shor preview: “Chetniks (…) our natural allies. Only they are fighting! “Kroatische Kampfgemeinschaft” exists only on paper.” ibidem,p.378; BA/MA, RH 19 XI/29 OKW/WfSt, Gruppe Ic/Ao Vortragsnotiz fuer Aussenchefbeschprechung am 25.7.1944 (23.7.1944) “The units that could really be used against the partisans were the Serbian and partly the Russian volunteers and-Draza Mihailovic’s people.My liason officer with them was a certain major,Ritterkreuztraeger.” written on situation in Serbia during his visit to Belgrade in June 1944. ibidem,p.187; BA/MA, RH 26-118/32 Befehl and die Cetnikfuehrer Cvijetin Todic,Golub Mitrovic,Savo Derikonja,Radivoj Kosoric,Bozo Plemic und Dusan Kovacevic (12.1.43). “Partly,the Serbs have futhermore showed themselves as the most reliable allies in fighting against the red bands,that is against communism.They are always ready to fight against the bandits with the German Wehrmacht and even to place themselves under it’s command” ibidem,p.307;BA/MA, RH 24-15/10 SS-Freiw.-Div. “Prinz Eugen” an Gen.Kdo. XV.Geb.AK. (5.9.1943). And this people (chetniks) today in serbia: Serbian parliament has passed a law granting pensions to members of the Serbian Chetnik movement, the followers of the Serbian king who fled to London just before World War II.
By Marcvs Agrippa, July 4, 2007 at 9:38 pm # 1. Where concentration camp in Serbia Banjica, Nedic and Sajmiste? 1. No. “Sajmište” means “fairground” in Serbian. The fairground is in the borough of Banjica, and Nedic is the surname of a Serbian gendarme (Milan Nedich). And you were insinuating that there were THREE conc-camps in Belgrade. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Sajmiste was run by the Nazis. Jasenovac, in Croatia, where 750.000 Serbs and Jews were murdered, was run by the Croatian (Nazi-allied) government. 2. Yes - by the German/ccupying authorities. In reality, Serbia was never Judenfrei. It was as much Judenfrei as it was Banditenfrei (die Banditen = Serbs) Your point is...? 3. No, they did not. That’s why Belgrade got leveled by the Luftwaffe on April 6, 1941 and Zagreb/Croatia welcomed the Wehrmacht with bouquets of flowers. The Serbs OVERTHREW their government on March 27, 1941 PRECISELY because it had allied with Germany.
By jFk, July 4, 2007 at 9:25 am # First of all that concert isn’t nazi concert at all and Marko Perkovic knowing what he will be accused said this words: English translation of his words: I’m often attacked and accused, that we are fascists, nazis, and by this you also who listen my music and follow. And we here by say to them that we are not fascists, nazis, but Croatian patriots. We tell them that there are values that we live for. There were people that we will never forget. And there are dreams that we will never give up. Because this country was made, our Croatia, on the blood and suffering of this generation, victorious generation. True story what happened on Thompson concert can be read here in audio , video and text: http://juliagorin.blogspot.com/2007/06/marko-perkovic- thompson-true-story.html But as noted always when speaking of Balkan, serbian-croatian sides start accusing each other for various reasons. When can we expect Serbian crime lords in jail? When we can expect to see stories about Serbian Naciz? If you dont belive they exist read about it: http://juliagorin.blogspot.com/2007/06/only-in-serbi-j ulia-only-in-serbia.html As for American readers it is time to open your eyes and on mentioned article find some Serbian friend who can translate this videos to understand hate towards Croatians: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9N2jaftIAY Or some kind Serb would be so kind to writetranslation of this 2 songs ?
By mc, July 4, 2007 at 8:30 am # Mel Wolfe I see your still sucking up to the Serbs enemies. Mel Wolfe thinks it is better to lie, deceive and avoid calling things as they are. Mel Wolfe you denie: 1. Where concentration camp in Serbia Banjica, Nedic and Sajmiste? 1. Serbia was the only European capital that had concentration camps exclusively for Jews (Sajmiste, Nedic and Banjica) There are no holocaust memorial tablets in Belgrade. 2. From the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Serbian Orthodox Church openly supported Nazi and Belgrade is the first city “judenfrei” 3. Under Josip Tito. Although a Communist, Tito was able to win out over a Milhailovic an Nazi because Tito, being a Croat, was able to appeal far more strongly to all the non-Serb groups in Yugoslavia. None of them would any longer trust a Serb.
By mario, July 4, 2007 at 7:13 am # Both Serbia and Croatia, like Finland, Hungary, France and virtually every other nation in Europe, were occupied by the Axis and had governments which collaborated with the Axis. You offended Croatian people in general by connecting whole nation as Nazi nation. I can believe my eyes… how about read some more articles and see who started war at Balkans? Who attacked Slovenia in 3 days war? Albanians, Croatians or Bosnians ? Serbian Army. I am not worried because truth cannot be obliterated. I am worried about something else. It is a snake in out bosom! Julia Gorin deflect attention away from Serbian evil deeds. Julia Gorin is Serb propaganda apparatus. Thompson’s words in English: I’m often attacked and accused, that we are fascists, nazis, and by this you also who listen my music and follow. And we here by say to them that we are not fascists, nazis, but Croatian patriots. We tell them that there are values that we live for. There were people that we will never forget. And there are dreams that we will never give up. Because this country was made, our Croatia, on the blood and suffering of this generation, victorious generation. Thompson’s songs: During his last tour Bilo jednom u Hrvatskoj, his concert in Frankfurt,Germany(country with the strictest laws against fascism)was also protested against by Jewish Organizations.They determinedly requested that the German government to ban the concert on alleged fascist lyrics. When German government received transcriptof Thompson’s songs,request for banning the concert was immediately rejected. Mel Wolfe your propaganda is a joke!
By Dr. Alexander von Paleske, July 4, 2007 at 3:04 am # Perkovic is not alone. To mention is also the Croatian ski athlete Ivica Kostelic. http://www.oraclesyndicate.twoday.net/stories/3950042 Dr. Alexander von Paleske
By BWildered, July 4, 2007 at 2:21 am # Well, now you know how I feel when I attend a Bruce Cockburn concert here in the USA.
By Mel Wolfe, July 3, 2007 at 7:49 pm # Listening to the Croat fascist apologetics here is such a joke! All you have to do is go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK6Hvtifkrw to find one of about 30 videos on You Tube featuring Thompson and the “heroic Ustashi of WWII” --especially “the fun” they had at Jasenovac & Stari Gradska killing Serbs & Jews. There is no relativizing this—all Thompson’s music recalls “the good old days” of Adolph and Ante (Pavelic)—that included this: http://www.srpska-mreza.com/History/ww2/children-41.html
By anony, July 3, 2007 at 1:27 pm # What a joke. I am a Croatian-american and have been to Croatia many times. I am insulted by the insinuations presented by this article. Croatia is a democratic country aspiring to join the EU. Marko Perkovic’s views for anybody familiar with the area are definitely to the right when it comes to politics. He became popular because his songs inspired the Croats to fight to defend their country during the wars in the 90’s. I don’t agree with many of his political views but his popularity due to his patriotic themes are very popular . Just because a small percentage of his audience wears symbols that date back to the ustashe of the second world war does not mean that the country is predominantly fascist. I think that the Simon Wiesenthal Center which is the one who had a problem with his concert being aired on tv should first look at the fascist nature of Israel and their treatment of the Palestinians before they start throwing stones and calling names. The term “za dom spremni,” which they accuse him of using as an example of his pro-ustashe sentiments means “for the homeland prepared” which dates back prior to ww2 and just happened to be used by the ustashe for their politics.
By mario, July 3, 2007 at 1:25 pm # Why are Jews Listening to Russian and Serbs Propaganda? Why are you calling United States pariah and Nazi? Europe is not satisfied with a lunacy of advocated diplomacy with Islamic terrorists as a way to ensure security! The Europe unjustice is acting again Serbs killers walk freely, Croatia and USA is now the target of war crimes charges the defenders are imprisoned or accused and killers walk freely. The lies have become the truth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sajmiste_concentration_camp “Ohhhh Serbs love Jews” Serbia collaborated to such an extent that Nazi civil administrator to proclaim Serbia the only country where the “Jewish question” was solved, and Belgrade the first city “judenfrei.” Why are Jews Listening to Russian and Serbs Propaganda?
By Hank Van den Berg, July 3, 2007 at 8:46 am # How convenient, we can blame a foreign country for being fascist! Let’s just worry about our own fascist government before we get all excited about Croatia (which does have a long history of fascism). We are not going to make much headway to improve tolerance, freedom, and human progress when our own government and its supporters are increasinlgy fascist. The commutation of Libby’s jail sentence should serve as warning enough!
By Helen Rainier, July 3, 2007 at 8:14 am # Well, this attitude or ignorance of history is not peculiar to Croatia. Remember just a few years ago, Prince Harry wearing a Nazi Swastika armband to a costume party? This, in spite of the fact that his grandmother (Queen Elizabeth) served during World War II, and his country of origin was devastated during WW II. Let’s face it—history seems to not matter anymore. When I was attending public schools (way long ago), we never even got close to studying recent history—such as WW II which would have been of enormous interest to me as I’m a “boomer.”
By Curtis Lowe, July 3, 2007 at 6:22 am # There were no genocides in the 90s in Bosnia, Croatia, or Kosovo.
By mario, July 3, 2007 at 5:50 am # Serb propaganda: Every time any newspaper account speaks of Croat nationalism or Croat-Serb rivalry nowadays, the writer invariably raises the spectre of Croatia`s “pro-Nazi” regime. But it should be clear that the Croats were not pro-Nazi; they were, simply, anti-Serb. A Serb guerrilla force, the Chetniks, arose under Draza Milhailovic, paying more attention to the killing of Croats than of Germans. The feelings were all too mutual. I reject the article and Serbian historical revisionism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sajmi?te_concentration_camp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banjica_concentration_camp http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/et112.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIIN1uONnsc&mode=re lated&search;=
By Skruff, July 3, 2007 at 5:41 am # Never understood this dynamic. Here in Maine where cemetries are filled with Yankee Civil war dead, their great grandchildren sport the Stars and Bars on their pick-up trucks… Teenage rebelion? but some of these “teenagers” have grey hair and collect Social Security Add Your Comment |
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