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Karzai Slams Western Allies’ Battle Tactics

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Posted on Jun 23, 2007

Afghanistan’s President Hamid Karzai angrily accused American- and NATO-led forces in his country of becoming increasingly reckless with their combat strategies, killing innocent civilians and straining relations with Afghanistan.


BBC:

“Innocent people are becoming victims of reckless operations” because the troops had ignored Afghan advice for years, Mr Karzai told reporters.

He was speaking after a week in which up to 90 Afghan civilians were killed.

More civilians have been killed this year as a result of foreign military action than have been killed by insurgents, correspondents say.

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By Marshall, June 25, 2007 at 8:33 pm Link to this comment

#81274 by PatrickHenry on 6/25 at 2:01 pm

Patrick,

I’m aware of who those guys are - my point was that we succeeded in our main initial goals in Afghanistan which were to remove the government and install a friendly, democratically elected govt. in its place.

<<The side show in Iraq (which had nothing to do with 9/11) took significant resources away from finding these guys, as if they were looking.>>

Please supply some supporting evidence for this claim.  Until you do, it’s simply your opinion.

<<Marshall, you sound to me like one of the staunch 25% of this country supporting Bush and these wars.>>

The mistake made by many who hate Bush is to lump these two wars into the same kettle.  Afghanistan is a clearly justifiable war and has been mostly successful.  The problems you’d expect in a job this big are ongoing, but I’d think you’d support the coalition being successful there rather than using it as an excuse to justify your hatred of Bush.  This is, afterall, a coalition effort supported by all of NATO including Australia, Canada, Denmark, France, Britain, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, New Zealand and Norway amongst others. 

As to Iraq, I support keeping the troops there because the virtually unanimous opinion of our govt. and intelligence community - including those who opposed the war in Iraq to begin with - is that leaving now would make the situation far worse and endanger our national security in a serious way.

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By PatrickHenry, June 25, 2007 at 3:01 pm Link to this comment

Marshall,

Omar was the head of the Taliban government, he is reportably in Kandahar.  Zawahiri is supposed to be in Waziristan and Osama is most likely dead, given the duration of the hemo-dialysis treatments he was getting. 

The side show in Iraq (which had nothing to do with 9/11) took significant resources away from finding these guys, as if they were looking.

When is enough, enough?

Marshall, you sound to me like one of the staunch 25% of this country supporting Bush and these wars.

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By anthony bauwens, June 25, 2007 at 10:26 am Link to this comment

War is War there will allways be innocent civilians at stake maybe the folks in Afganistan can see who is the good guy in this case and hope they dont side with Taliban after this incident.it aint hard to see who is the enemy now? Karzai should get more of his citizens to help fight these Taliban Thugs instead of complainin.Who asked for help?

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By Marshall, June 24, 2007 at 12:55 pm Link to this comment

#80857 by TDoff on 6/24 at 1:20 am

So you would have done nothing in respone to AQ’s attack on the US, and the Taliban’s role in incubating AQ and providing it a home?  You’d have let the country of Afghanistan continue to train AQ fighters to attack the US?


#80871 by PatrickHenry on 6/24 at 5:36 am

<<I believe the original mission 6 years ago was to take out Osama, Zawahiri and Omar.  They are more useful to the powers-that-be alive than dead.>>

Then you can stand corrected, because the purpose of the original mission was to topple the Taliban government and drive AQ from Afghanistan.

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By PatrickHenry, June 24, 2007 at 6:36 am Link to this comment

I believe the original mission 6 years ago was to take out Osama, Zawahiri and Omar.  They are more useful to the powers-that-be alive than dead.

I’m sure the projected oil pipline thru Afganistan from Turkmenistan has nothing to do with our prolonged occupation.

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By TDoff, June 24, 2007 at 2:20 am Link to this comment

Marshall, I’d not only have been happier if Bush hadn’t gone into Afghanistan, I’d have been ecstatic if The Dummy hadn’t snuck into Washington.

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By Marshall, June 24, 2007 at 12:21 am Link to this comment

Question for you whining bone-heads; would you have been happier if Bush had not gone into Afghanistan in the first place?

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By great_satan, June 23, 2007 at 11:48 pm Link to this comment

#80839 by Billy the Dik
  “...you should go into politics or philosophy and forget about the stand up comedy career.”
 
I suppose the opposite could be said for Bush.

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By great_satan, June 23, 2007 at 11:29 pm Link to this comment

#80833 by Billy the Dik
    My statement was sarcastic.
    (Non-sarcastic version.)Maybe the Regime is disappointed that their intended puppet is actually representing his people and not neo-con interests.

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By TDoff, June 23, 2007 at 7:39 pm Link to this comment

Well, we’ve finally fine-tuned our diplomatic approach in Afghanistan, but why are even our puppets turning against us?
Why does everything we touch turn to sh*t?
‘Cause we have an Assh*le for president.

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By DennisD, June 23, 2007 at 6:59 pm Link to this comment
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A Bu$h Inc. puppet not following the script. George - you’d better send “Dick” the junkyard dog over for a little sitdown with Karzai before “Westworld” becomes all too real.

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By great_satan, June 23, 2007 at 3:57 pm Link to this comment

Gee, Mr Karzai, whose side are you on anyways?

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