It’s really terrifying that this administration, filled with ideologues, is in charge of this country.  From stem cells to militarism to economic inequality—there is no end.  For me the three i’s are very important—impeachment, indictment and incarceration.  This is what these people need.

You wonder why Bush would veto this bill, because he is STUPID. The second reason is that he thinks he is a GOD and the stroke of his pen makes him think that he is following God’s edict. The fact that he thinks it is OK to sacrifice human lives to steal oil that belongs to another country shows he is also INSANE. Their are many people permanenty confined in mental institutions who have the very same delusions he has, why isn’t he confined there too?

Somebody please help me out on the REAL bush agenda as it relates to the repression of this particular science, (though it’s not the only “science” he objects to).

Still, there absolutely HAS to be more than stupid ideology behind this. “Destruction of sacred human life” relative to stem cell research, doesn’t really cut it. Because, when this whole argument first started, the research was only attempting to utilize embryos that had been artifically produced to begin with. Specifically, the hundreds of frozen embryos left over from in vitro fertilization. These were embryos that were going to be destroyed ANYWAY, yet the bush guys did not want them utilized for stem cell research.

No, I’m not claiming that no research has been done using the products of an abortion or spontaneous miscarriage, because probably somewhere, that has been done. But the point is still that stem-cell research has primarily been conducted using embryos that have been artificially created in the lab, and george has never gone so far as to denounce THAT part of the science.

He’s totally against abortion of any embryo, even if it’s only 24 hours in the making. State facilities (at least in some bible-belt states) have now refused to perform abortions at their State facilities. Now let’s think for a minute, WHO would attempt to use the state facility for such a procedure in a place like Oklahoma? One guess, a woman or couple that can’t even afford the procedure to end the pregnancy, let alone afford to feed, house, or clothe the child if it grows to full term. BECAUSE, the state doesn’t “help” then either. The same people who don’t want their tax dollars funding abortion procedures, are the same ones that don’t want their tax dollars to be used for the care of these children, when their birth parents aren’t possibly capable of doing it themselves, in our “individual” society, where everyone is expected to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. (and we already know how well that works).

No, this is totally disingenuous, and that’s why there has to be another reason for what is blatant stupidity. We love to talk about how backward and reactionary other cultures are, and how they don’t want to move into modernity, and yet with every stroke of Georges’ pencil, we move back several decades or centuries. There HAS to be some other reason besides his insanity. I just don’t know what it is.

So, it keeps me very confused. I’m with our colleague above, who is TIRED OF THIS SHIT, and even more so because I can’t figure out the real agenda. I only know that it’s not about “the destruction of scared human life”, when he knowlingly orders more and more sacred human lives into battle, expecting them to take many more sacred human lives down with them.

Related to, but distinct from stem cell research is the funding by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) for investigation of the mechanisms to regrow biological limbs.

Like starfish, certain lizards and other creatures, there is hope that human arms and legs can be regrown.

Sounds fantastic, but there are biological, chemical and related processes that could facilitate this.

One of DARPA’s goals is to possibly help troops who have lost legs and arms in combat.

Check out the article . . .

“U.S. defense research agency sponsors ‘mind-blowing’ studies to regrow human limbs”

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=14652

Because Bush didn’t know anything about what’s stem cell.

I truly hope that this example of Bush pandering to his base of marginalized ideologues has dire consequences for the Republicans in 2008. Some things the electorate won’t forget, and this veto of legislation affecting people throughout the entire racial, social and economic strata, is one of them.

I think it’s high time Bush let this one go.  He went 6 years without a single veto (not one spending bill, nothing) and waiting till the stem cell bill came out a few months ago.  Even Nancy Reagan is in support of stem cell research now.  There is actual suffering by living humans to worry about working with stem cells at the 4 cell stage.