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Posted on Jun 17, 2007

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has sworn in a new government that excludes Hamas, a move praised by both the U.S. and Israel. But the emergency government is likely to preside only over the West Bank because Hamas—which Israeli officials described as a “terrorist entity”—retains control of Gaza.


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Mr Abbas also issued decrees enabling new Prime Minister Salam Fayyad to rule without parliamentary approval and outlawing all of Hamas’s armed forces.

Mr Fayyad’s predecessor, Ismail Haniya, has said the new government is illegal.

Israel’s government said a non-Hamas administration would create a fresh opportunity for a partnership in peace.

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By Marshall, June 20, 2007 at 12:20 pm Link to this comment

#79517 by Matt on 6/20 at 4:42 am

“Most Americans are quite ignorant about Israel, since they get their news from the Zionist/corporate media.”

Oh that’s funny!  Now the liberal press is really controlled by… Israel?

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By lilmamzer, June 20, 2007 at 6:18 am Link to this comment

#79517 by Matt:

I didn’t claim to speak for most Americans. I said “some of us”. Most Americans are quite ignorant about Israel, since they get their news from the Zionist/corporate media.

“some of us” - uh huh.

Yeah, the old ‘Zionist media’ pulling the puppet strings of the dim rabble.

Can’t you at least come up with an original smear?

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By Matt, June 20, 2007 at 5:42 am Link to this comment
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#79262 by Matt:

....that’s why we hate Israel.

Speak for yourself.

The latest Gallup polls (among others) show the US public’s support for Israel at an all-time high.
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I didn’t claim to speak for most Americans. I said “some of us”.

Most Americans are quite ignorant about Israel, since they get their news from the Zionist/corporate media.

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By lilmamzer, June 20, 2007 at 5:14 am Link to this comment

#79441 by Marshall on 6/19 at 8:26 pm
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This guy’s ignorance continues to amaze me; casting his lot with a terrorist group sworn to the firey destruction of Israel

Nothing ignorant about Carter. The man knows exactly what he’s doing; all the more shame on him, then.

The Saudis have financed his Carter Center in Georgia to the tune of $15 million. (Yes, those misogynist, intolerant, head-and-hand-chopping, 9-11 terrorist-producing Saudis.) Can you say Quid Pro Quo?

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By Marshall, June 19, 2007 at 9:26 pm Link to this comment

Carter just sided with Hamas - claiming that the US has no right to give financial support to Fatah and not to Hamas.  This guy’s ignorance continues to amaze me; casting his lot with a terrorist group sworn to the firey destruction of Israel, and claiming the US has to go along with it.

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By lilmamzer, June 19, 2007 at 8:58 pm Link to this comment

#79262 by Matt:

....that’s why we hate Israel.

Speak for yourself.

The latest Gallup polls (among others) show the US public’s support for Israel at an all-time high.

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By Matt, June 19, 2007 at 11:40 am Link to this comment
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When Fatah was in control, the Israelis complained that Fatah were terrorists and did everything they could to undermine the Palestinian government and to make life in Palestine impossible.

Of course, this frustrated the Palestinians to the brink of madness, and so, naturally, it brought Fatah to power - by a free and fair election.

Now the Israelis complain that Hamas is the problem, and if only Fatah were in control, there would be peace.

Do the Israelis think Americans are stupid, that we have no memory?

Well, at least some of us are not stupid, and we do remember; and that’s why we hate Israel.

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By lilmamzer, June 18, 2007 at 6:56 pm Link to this comment

#79028 by Tom Doff:

lilmamzer, Gee, you come across as one of those radical, prejudiced, anti-goy israelites, irrationally assigning blame for all the ills of the world on the non-jews, the most creative contributors to the world’s values, who have unfairly suffered throughout history at the hands and mouths of the jewish segment of the semite populace.

Ouch, you really spanked me.

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By Tom Doff, June 18, 2007 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment
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lilmamzer, Gee, you come across as one of those radical, prejudiced, anti-goy israelites, irrationally assigning blame for all the ills of the world on the non-jews, the most creative contributors to the world’s values, who have unfairly suffered throughout history at the hands and mouths of the jewish segment of the semite populace.

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By lilmamzer, June 18, 2007 at 1:43 pm Link to this comment

#78855 by Spinoza:

The people in Israels government are none to bright.  Who do they propose to negotiate with? The three or four collaborators willing to stand out in public and who are likely to get shot? Hamas is still strong in the West Bank and Abbas is likely to be kicked out there.

Brighter than you give credit for. Palestinian Arabs freely chose Hamas as their elected government. Hamas chooses to make war against the citizens of Israel. The sovereign State of Israel, per her respnsibility to protect the lives of her citizens from external enemies, now has an address to respond to militarily. As it should be.

Unless, of course, Hamas decides to stop it’s futile war against Israeli civilians - you know, stop bombarding Sderot and Ashkelon with rockets, stop sending homicide-bombers to massacre busloads of Israeli children, you know, the usual Hamas foreign policy initiatives.

What do you think the chances of that happening are?

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By lilmamzer, June 18, 2007 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment

#78864 by cyrena:

This Cheney Cabal has already hijacked our government, and it would appear that they’ve pretty much hijacked Israel’s government as well.

You’ve got it exactly backwards.

It’s the Zionists who have hijacked the American government.

Have you learned nothing from reading Truthdig????

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By lilmamzer, June 18, 2007 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment

#78998 by Dale Headley:

After all, the results of the elections there suggest that the majority of Palestinians, including in the West Bank, support Hamas.

And that’s a good thing, right? Hamas are the good guys in all this, right? And that’s who the Palestinian Arabs chose, right? So it must be a good thing, right?

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By Dale Headley, June 18, 2007 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment
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None of these speculations take into account that Hamas may next attack and defeat Fatah in the West Bank.  After all, the results of the elections there suggest that the majority of Palestinians, including in the West Bank, support Hamas.

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By dick, June 18, 2007 at 9:29 am Link to this comment
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All is going according to plan. The mayhem will be nearly complete soon, when the USA attacks Iran. There is Syria and Lebanon also. The plan, prepared by the neocons for Israel and modified when they took over the Bush Admin,  is on the web.

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By dick, June 18, 2007 at 9:29 am Link to this comment
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All is going according to plan. The mayhem will be nearly complete soon, when the USA attacks Iran. There is Syria and Lebanon also. The plan, prepared by the neocons for Israel and modified when they took over the Bush Admin,  is on the web.

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By Tom Doff, June 18, 2007 at 6:43 am Link to this comment
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And after Hamas takes over (or wins another election) in the West Bank, the only Palestinian government recognized by the US and Israel will be the Abbas’ ‘Palestinian Government in Exile’ in Washington, D.C.

That’ll at least make it easier to supply all the foreign aid, instead of air-lifting all those shrink-wrapped bundles of US currency, we can just hand-truck them across the street from the Treasury to the ‘Palestine West’ capitol.

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By Skruff, June 18, 2007 at 6:15 am Link to this comment
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Imagine living in Beruit, Gaza, or in the settlements near the Golan. Imagine being 14 and watching the adults you respect engaging in this vicious fighting, without concern for the children, or the future.

Someone has to come to their senses and stop this stupid shit…..2,000 years is too long for a family argument.

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By cyrena, June 17, 2007 at 11:38 pm Link to this comment

Thanks Spinoza. I’m guessing that the people in Israel’s government have been led astray by other powers. This Cheney Cabal has already hijacked our government, and it would appear that they’ve pretty much hijacked Israel’s government as well.

But, it makes sense that the Palestinians in the West Bank, who have zero civil rights, and remain oppressed under Israeli military rule, will in fact not put up with it any longer. Abbas has unfortunately done NOTHING for them, other than to allow things to become worse.

I read recently that settlers have resumed a steady influx, from Israel to the West Bank. How can this all not be the recipie for elevated disaster?

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By Spinoza, June 17, 2007 at 10:14 pm Link to this comment

The people in Israels government are none to bright.  Who do they propose to negotiate with? The three or four collaborators willing to stand out in public and who are likely to get shot? Hamas is still strong in the West Bank and Abbas is likely to be kicked out there.

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By kevin99999, June 17, 2007 at 9:57 pm Link to this comment
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I would argue that the biggest terrorist entity in the middle east is Israel.

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