#76377 by John F. Butterfield on 6/08 at 1:52 pm
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“Why are we in Iraq?”

You really don’t know?

Oh Expat, you certainly got it right…

What we have is the “Kansas City Shuffle”.  You look over there and we go somewhere else.

That’s just exactly what it is. Been doing the dance for a long time now.

For Roscoe, I do remember the 70’s, though I’m not sure that many folks do. And, an ALL OUT war is EXACTLY what Cheney’s thugs have planned all along. Long ago. That’s why they’re hovering around Iran right now, ready to light them up. That’s the reason behind the very permanent bases in the Middle East, and that’s why they are playing dangerously with Russia about these alleged missile interceptors that they want to put in Poland, even though the people there don’t WANT the US missle system in their back yards.

So, ALL OUT destruction has always been Cheney’s plan, and so far, I don’t see much other than public opinion (from those who are aware) stopping him. He’ll go behind georgies back to do it, (even though I still don’t think george makes any decisions of his own) if it looks like he might back down.

Still, at some point, (and I fear very soon) there will be this ALL OUT action, so you’ll get what you’re hoping for. I don’t think it’s gonna do anything more than light up the rest of the region, since that’s what’s already happened. And you’re right, we should NOT be undertaking imperial missions in the Middle East, because that’s exactly what makes us vulnerable to the very folks that don’t want to be imperialized by the West. And, while I hate to sound like a broken record, it’s important to understand that the Cheney Cabal really DOES NOT CARE about any of that. They have us in the Middle East based on an agenda that doesn’t jibe with the interests of the rest of the nation. Their agenda IS an ALL OUT WAR, if that’s what it takes to get the control that they are determined to have.

Now, I see a major problem with doing an ALL OUT WAR against the Middle East, when all we have is this volunteer army and those private contractors. Obviously, they’ve figured that out as well, which is why all the naval and aircraft power has been recently directed to the Persian Gulf. They can do far more damage (of the type you are speaking) with those aircraft carriers and all of their bombs.

And, that of course just hastens the final Ka-Boom.

Why are we in Iraq?

#76310 by Scott on 6/08 at 7:21 am

Makes an excellent point.

“It would certainly be a lot cheaper to only wire a few politicians, bureacrats and CEOs than it would all of us.”
While were at it, Drug test all elected officials and make those results public. Drug test all judges and make those results public. Drug test all attorneys and make those results a matter of public record also. Drug testing would be gone in weeks. And we’d all get along just fine without it.

The new czar in charge of official government looting is certainly making me feel better by kind of sort of admitting that maybe, just possibly, there’s a chance that the surge (not escalation) may not be working quite as well as planned. That’s a load off my mind. If he keeps up like this W., the decider, may have to can this guy and get a new one. After a few more czars have bit the dust, W., the decider will be out of office and on his way home with his pockets full of Lute. I can just hear W., the decider chuckling as he leaves the White House “my work here is done-it’s your problem now, dummies”.

There really is nothing more pathetic than a reluctant tyrant, lead follow or get out of the way comes to mind. It sure sounds like Rosco is game for the type of government Expat describes.

Speaking of Orwell and as I’ve said elsewhere…we should be investing our efforts to make society more secure through surveillance by wiring the very top layers of society. Perhaps by aiming Big Brothers telescreens the other way we can make honesty and decency trickle down through the rest of society just like wealth is supposed to when its concentrated at the top.

I have to say I sometimes don’t understand all the concern people have about being monitored. Given that 94% of us apparently believe they’re being surveilled by some judgemental god you’d think people would long since have outgrown any concerns about being watched.

In any case I think we only need to wire a few people near the top and the trickle down theory of honesty will take care of the rest. It would certainly be a lot cheaper to only wire a few politicians, bureacrats and CEOs than it would all of us.

What we have is the “Kansas City Shuffle”.  You look over there and we go somewhere else.

It doesn’t matter who is put where in any position.  Bush/Cheney can’t get a competent operative because their neo-con delusions are not possible without a totally compliant population, aka, “1984”, the George Orwell version or “Fahrenheit 451”.  Again, none of this is possible without a consenting population!  So far, yet so near!

We truly need a 21st century version of Paul Revere; where the hell are you?  We’re in a four dimensional information/cultural/reality/propaganda existence; the radio, TV-visual, the news media, and space, the medium that ultimately connects us all via satellite and the internet, thus the world.

This should give us untold power, but we are infants who cannot yet comprehend our environment.  We still don’t have all of the letter blocks to spell a complete thought with a cogent idea. We are safe within the womb…warm and comfortable, no, not quite comfortable, but feeling safe enough.  Add to that a little fear and you have a potent mix for non-action. 

Remember: Fear is a thief, do not let it steal from you.

We should not be comforted by Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute…he was appointed by Bush…for a reason!

Trust no one with “your” freedom…be forever diligent or pay the price.

These are the lessons of an old man…guilty as charged!

If we’re going to fight a war then we should fight a WAR. These little stopgap measures undertaken will only prolong the bloodshed. If we are not willing to go all out, and I do mean ALL out, we should stay out of the middle east. Of course no more large vehicles and the probability of gas rationing and long lines at the gas stations. Remember the seventies?

Mission will never be accomplished as Bush/Cheney administration declared while the number of U.S. troops killed was 3,500 as of today !