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Libby Gets 30 Months

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Convicted perjurer I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby has been sentenced to 30 months in prison, a $250,000 fine and two years of probation, pending appeal and the inevitable pardon.

BBC:

Mr Libby remains free pending a hearing scheduled for next week on his appeal.

There has been speculation that President George W. Bush might pardon Libby but the White House said it would not intervene in the case given that the appeals process was still underway, Reuters news agency reported.

Mr Libby is the highest-ranking White House official convicted in a government scandal since the Iran-Contra affair in the mid-1980s, when Ronald Reagan was president.

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By greentrader, June 7, 2007 at 11:33 pm #

Scooter knows the game and must and will take the hit like a good soldier. I doubt he will blow the whistle and most likely will be pardoned before Bush leaves office. Like a good CIA agent he will keep his mouth shut .  Greentrader

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By mark, June 7, 2007 at 9:10 pm #
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Treason, perjury, lawlessness, lack of remorse do not deserve pardon, ask Israeli Spy Pollard.

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By 911truthdotorg, June 7, 2007 at 8:08 pm #

Here’s the video:

Lawrence O’Donnell slams the “Save Libby” neo-con criminals. Outstanding!

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/06/lawrence-odon nell-on-countdown-im-waiting-for-every-one-of-these-letter- writers/

Google videos: 9/11 Press for Truth, Loose Change 2nd Edition

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By 911truthdotorg, June 7, 2007 at 12:37 pm #

Please read Lawrence O’Donnell’s transcripton Keith Olbermann’s show the other night. He tore everyone of those evil cowards who wrote letters demanding leniency for Libby “a new one”. The video is on “Crooks and Liars”. Powerful stuff!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19078501/

Google videos: 9/11 Press for Truth, Loose Change 2nd Edition

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By Robert Mendez, June 7, 2007 at 12:06 pm #
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Libby ought to consider hiring Paris Hilton’s lawyer.

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By Joe R., June 7, 2007 at 10:30 am #
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He should get 30 years.  Letting a President have pardoning power invites criminal behavior.  If Nixon would have gotten life for what he did we would not be in the spot we are in now with Bush.

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By Mark Dolce, June 7, 2007 at 7:45 am #
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The problem is that Bush and Cheney want to have their yellow cake and eat it too. It’s easy to blame Bush and Cheney and their administration for the Plame issue and several others. And now Libby has been convicted - and he may do time - unless he is pardoned. But where will he serve this time? In Club Fed? Okay, so if he does do time - it’s the principle of being convicted, fined and doing time, right? What about Rove? By now, the list of culprits is growing or grown. It’s a lot of hindsight and catch up. My point is we, the American people, have sat and watched the degredation of our political situation develope for decades. For example, we allowed the Supreme Court to appoint Bush. There was no uproar or revolt or dissent on the level of overturning the ruling of the court. Americans do not participate enough in their own governmental process. A 35 - 45 percent result of the regestered voters taking part in elections does not represent a working active democratic public. And when an election is held and the Democrats are given a majority in congress - what happens? The President vetoes the majority or the majority votes the opposite of what it was placed there to vote for. At this point, Libby is a side show. He will hopefully serve his time but the machine rolls on. How do we stop or change the machine?

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By Margaret Currey, June 7, 2007 at 7:42 am #
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People have got to realize that when money is in the game there is no such thing as fair, granted both sides play the ends against the middle but this Bush Administration can show you that when you take a mindless leader and let him choose his cabinet what you get is a lot of people who will never do the job and in the process really mess it up.

Chaney came into the administration being the unnamed leader, who thinks he has the same rights as a president called Executive Privilege this is the first Vice President who thinks his office is just the same as the Emperor without clothes, in the past the Vice President was a person who could be compared to a prince waiting for the Queen/King to die.

Getting back to Scooter, he will not serve much time if any in prision, he will be pardoned that is a given.

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By ManipulationNation, June 7, 2007 at 6:56 am #

If Bush and Cheney were to show as much concern for the millions of poor people in the United States and the billions of poor people around the world as they do for Scooter Libby, there’d be no more poverty.

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By Leon, June 7, 2007 at 6:28 am #
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I fail to see how anyone, including a court of law, would find an assistant ultimately guilty of any act. When the acts were so obviously carried out for his boss. It’s not rocket science and we should not let these people pull wool over our eyes and try and complicate things.  Everything he did was part of his work. His work being for his boss. 

His boss is guilty, bring some justice!!  Look at the crime....  Look for motive......  Easily find the culprit....

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By Shenonymous, June 7, 2007 at 5:43 am #

Yayyyyyyy! Justice wins again against the chronically corrupt Republicans. Let us hope the BBC speculation of a Bush pardon is wrong.  Anybody care to list how many Bush people left their office in Washington because of some scandal or another? Lex talionis for good ole Bill.

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By Shenonymous, June 7, 2007 at 3:47 am #
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Yayyyyyyyyyyyy!  Justice, again wins.  Let’s hope the BBC speculation does not come true for it would allow Republicans to cheat the Americans once again. Does anybody want to speculate how many time THAT has happened?

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By bigjimbo, June 7, 2007 at 12:59 am #

Tragedy?  The tragedy is that nearly 3500 American troops have lost their lives thanks to being lied into a criminal war in Iraq, an action that was aided and abetted by draft dodging cowardly neocons like Irving Libby and Wolfowitz.  I only hope that Bush, Cheney and Rove will soon be joining Libby.  I am also appalled the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Peter Pace submitted a letter asking for clemency for Libby.  Pace should resign, having disgraced his office by sticking his nose up Bush’s ass.

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By KYJurisDoctor, June 7, 2007 at 12:41 am #
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One wonders if “Scooter” Libby deserves a presidential pardon without diminishing the seriousness of his offense.

http://OsiSpeaks.com or http://Osispeaks.org

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By cyrena, June 6, 2007 at 8:01 pm #

I still say Libby is/was/has been resigned to this long ago. I’m sure that he and Dick have discussed this, and agreed on a plan. The Federal Penn isn’t all that bad in the penthouse suites, where they usually put the White Collar Criminals and/or the Mob in some cases back in the day.

If Libby was gonna talk, he would have already done it. They know he won’t. The Mob is like that. Loyal to the end. And, that’s what this is. Libby will probably do some time, but we won’t get to see him handcuffed and carted off, (which really wouldn’t be all that satisfying for me anyway, because we know it should be cheney first, and Scooter doesn’t have that evil aura about him, so there isn’t as much satisfaction in seeing him treated like the common criminal that he now is)

Meantime, he’ll have a little bit of a break from all the stress. He can kick back and play chess or whatever with the other WCC’s, he’s bound to know some of the other residents from the hill, and hell...he might even writea book. He’ll have the best of medical care, 3 squares a day, no stress. And then, after a while, he’ll be quitely released, and eventually move to the South Pacific and live happily ever after.

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By RAE, June 6, 2007 at 7:59 pm #

Thanks, Humble, for your comments.

Perhaps we’ll meet in other forums to expand further on our notions of the characteristics of hypocrites of all stripes. We’d better leave it for now as we’re getting a little close to being off topic.

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By Humble Servant, June 6, 2007 at 7:20 pm #

Rae,

First, let me thank you for responding to me in a polite, respectful manner.  You are the only person to do so on Truthdig, and I will respond in kind.  You are right that we all have this human fraility known as hypocrisy.  Seven years ago I would have disagreed with you that this type of hypocrisy was as blatant on the right.  However, I do not think that way now.

I point out the hypocrisy of the left because it is sooooooo much fun--I just can’t help myself.  They (gross generalization, yet very accurate) are so easy to play.  They are so arrogrant and egotistical, who think they are so much smarter than anyone who disagrees with them.  I’m like the person that goes to the zoo and torments the monkeys to just get them freaking out, throwing feces at each other.  All the time, I’m ROTFLMAO.  They are so predictable.

They use the same tactics that the Republicans used against Clinton.  Yet, in their biasedness, they cannot see that the Republicans and Democrats have switched roles.  So when discussing issues, I like to take liberals back to the days where the roles were reversed and how Democratic leadership responded...thus the hypocrisy.

I could easily do this with conservatives.  It’s just that abusing liberals is so much more fun.  I don’t find the same arrogance with conservatives, so I don’t get the same response.

There you have it...the cat’s out of the bag.  I’m not a conservative.  I’m not a Republican.  I’ve never supported W.  Yet, I think liberalism is a failed ideology.

As always,
Your Humble Servant

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By ardee, June 6, 2007 at 5:30 pm #

Libby may very well receive a Bush pardon prior to serving one day. He might have to serve until the last day of the Bush Presidency when George will certainly pardon him on the way out. Serve two and half years? Never.

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By saltydog, June 6, 2007 at 3:51 pm #

There is no possible way that Scooter will spend time in the slammer because he knows too much.  And a lot than just the Valerie Plame stuff.  He was in on the fabrication of the justification of the Iraq war and he knows who told the lies and where the lies were first written up.  His footprints were present in every step and if the administration even suspects that he might have an attack of conscience, his body will mysteriously appear in a Florida swamp with a cinder block strapped to his leg.

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By RAE, June 6, 2007 at 3:41 pm #

Humble Servant wrote:

“Liberals claim that they embrace diversity that they are open-minded, and they are compassionate.  I assert that this is not true, and that the average liberal is just the opposite.  They are bigoted, racist, closed-minded, and hateful.”

My trouble with your posting, Humble, is not that your posting is far-fetched but that it charges one “brand” of political human with frailties that can be found in ALL brands of humans. I consider myself “liberal” although I’m not too sure why anymore. The closer I look the less difference I find between ANY stripe of political party.

It seems we ALL are capable of the hypocrisies you note. Claiming one group is MORE or LESS hypocritical on any given issue is wide open to endless and futile debate.

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By P. T., June 6, 2007 at 12:42 pm #

Those people on the right wing want Libby pardoned.  They are soft on treason.  Besides, Libby knows too much.

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By Rickinsf, June 6, 2007 at 6:22 am #
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I stand corrected.
Apparently the judge did say Libby must surrender within a few weeks.
Still, it woulda been satisfying to see him ‘cuffed and led away the moment the gavel came down.

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By THOMAS BILLIS, June 6, 2007 at 3:27 am #
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Conservative morons you cannot have it both ways.You cannot claim that perjury undermines the entire judicial system when it is Bill Clinton and then want to take the position liberals did when it is your guy.In your eyes to be consistent their was a miscarriage of justice in the Bill Clinton affair but the justice system finally got it right in The Scooter Libby affair.Here is something liberals and conservatives should be dancing in the streets together.Liberals because as we all know we are hypocrites and conservatives because their principles were upheld in the Scooter Libby case.It looks like Scooter is a uniter not a divider.PS guys named Scooter in prison usually do not fare well.

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By cyrena, June 6, 2007 at 12:59 am #

nogodude, I had to laugh out loud on the “splain’” part. When you hear (or in this case read) such a linguistic, it’s an automatic clue that you’re probably gonna be talking to a moron.

That’s why I think Mike Mid-City suggested that you ignore him. Other’s have tried to help. It’s on him now.

Meantime, Mr. Libby should begin serving his time today, and it’s really just a minor door prize for all Americans, that it’s just Libby, and not his boss. He’s gonna do the time for Cheney. And, for that reason, I don’t believe that georgie is gonna do anything about a pardon right now. Maybe right before he leaves, but not now.

Meantime, the rest of us need to concentrate on the source of the disease....Cheney and his invisible crew. When THEY are behind bars, (and pay back all of our money) the world will be a better place. Might take a while, but it’s the first step.

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By nogodude, June 5, 2007 at 9:28 pm #

Humble Servant said

’Splain this to me.
When Bill Clinton was charged with the same crime, the liberals said it was no big deal--lying under oath was not that important.  Now when it is Scotter’s turn, liberals are going nuts over this.

OK I’ll try to “splain”

Liberals didn’t say it was ok to lie under oath. I think the issue was, is it really in the best interest of the country to spend tax dollars and time to investigate a crime that no one really cared about except for Hillary and the rest of the Jerry Springer watchers. (And the Republicans of course) I think we all learned a lesson about lying under oath thanks to Bill. Except for the clowns in the white house. The difference is that “Scooter” lied to cover his boss at the white house who took us to war under false pretences which resulted in… Well you know this already. Why an I wasting my time trying to explain something you obviously don’t want to understand.

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By DennisD, June 5, 2007 at 8:20 pm #
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Don’t worry Scooter, the cell door won’t even close before Bu$h has the pardon signed. He won’t let a good party member do time. What’s good for Bu$h Inc. is good for America.

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By Rickinsf, June 5, 2007 at 7:36 pm #
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I understand the judge hasn’t specified when “Scooter” would be required to surrender himself, so he’s not going “up the river” yet.
I doubt he’ll ever glimpse the inside of a cell. Or, more likely in his case, a suite.

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By Virginia from Virginia, June 5, 2007 at 7:27 pm #
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By attacking Joe Wilson and outing his wife, Valerie Plame, Libby was lying to us Americans about Iraq’s nuclear weapons’ program.  Libby was beating false drums for war.  To me, this was far worse than revealing Plame’s CIA connection - although that was plenty bad, too.  Problem is, there’s no law against lying, deceiving, prevaricating to us citizens when you’ve got an important position.  But lying us into war is despicable!  Libby deserves his sentence - AND MORE!

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By mvm417@yahoo.com, June 5, 2007 at 7:17 pm #
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Libby’s despicable offense was trying to mislead the American People about Iraq obtaining uranium from Niger.  Libby did this by attacking Joe Wilson and outing his wife, Valerie Plame.  Revelations about Plame’s CIA work was “collateral damage”.
Libby’s real intention was to lie about the “evidence” of Iraq WMDs.  Think how often Libby (and other BushCo.s) contacted reporters, asked them not to reveal him as the source (Now, why that???) in order to denigrate Wilson.
The fact that lying to the American Public is not currently a felony doesn’t make it OK.  It’s WRONG!

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By Humble Servant, June 5, 2007 at 6:06 pm #

RAE,

You analysis is somewhat correct.  The issue is not that we are all at time hypocrites, and I am just focusing on the liberal hypocrisy.  It is much deeper than that.

Liberals claim that they embrace diversity that they are open-minded, and they are compassionate.  I assert that this is not true, and that the average liberal is just the opposite.  They are bigoted, racist, closed-minded, and hateful.  They claim the former, but in reality, they are just the opposite.

Please read my post after my reception, where I clearly documenttheir hatred for anyone different:
http://liberal-hypocrisy.com/blog/2007/06/04/true-libe ralism-at-truthdig/

Because I did not spew the party line, I was viciously attacked.  This proves my point, and the reason for my blog.

As always,
Your Humble Servant

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By QuyTran, June 5, 2007 at 6:01 pm #

Bill Clinton was luckier than “Scotter” Libby.

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By ardee, June 5, 2007 at 5:47 pm #

Was it four counts of perjury, or was it six? A far cry from a married man lying about an affair, and Libby’s lies certainly threatened our constitutional protections while Bill’s harmed who exactly?

I had great hopes that Libby would get a sentence that would force him to speak up and name his former boss as co-conspirator in exchange for a lighter sentence, but it doesnt look like its gonna happen.

Oh and am I the only one who feels pity for that ass Humble Servant?

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By ~B~, June 5, 2007 at 4:40 pm #

Scooter deserves no less and much more. He obstructed the investigation of a “treasonous” offense. It matters not that he did it at the biding of the ruling elites. Stooges get sentences....his is way to light in my opinion.

B

http://b-political.blogspot.com/

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By ed pefferman, June 5, 2007 at 3:41 pm #
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Scooter Libby is a traitor. He should be shot not sent to jail. His boss, ElDuce, should be shot along side him.

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By RAE, June 5, 2007 at 3:14 pm #

“The main premise at my blog, http://www.liberal-hypocrisy.com, is that liberals are hypocrites.”

Likely true!

The same applies, of course, to all NON-liberals. Most people, and therefore parties made up of people, are hypocrites to some degree.

It is a matter of degree with almost everything, isn’t it? I mean, stealing a few paperclips or a pencil from the office isn’t exactly a felony, but it’s still stealing! Who hasn’t done it? All those who’ve committed a similar “crime” and who deny it, are HYPOCRITES, to say nothing about being LIARS.

I guess that’s just about everyone I know.

What do you call someone, say, Humble Servant, who, being a person is likely to also be a hypocrite, but who goes to great lengths to point fingers at others for being hypocrites?

Right… a HYPOCRITE!

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By Humble Servant, June 5, 2007 at 2:06 pm #

‘Splain this to me.

When Bill Clinton was charged with the same crime, the liberals said it was no big deal--lying under oath was not that important.  Now when it is Scotter’s turn, liberals are going nuts over this.

The main premise at my blog, http://www.liberal-hypocrisy.com, is that liberals are hypocrites.  So, please explain to me why this does not support my premise? 

As always,
Your humble servant

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By BobZ, June 5, 2007 at 11:31 am #

Cheney should be doing the time but Scooter is fine. He is the appropriate symbol for this failed administration - the gang that couldn’t shoot straight -ideologues who placed politics above country, incompetence above competence. A sad chapter in the history of this great country will conclude in about 18 months. Unless the Democrats find another way to blow an election, the next chapter should be a lot brighter for most Americans and the rest of the world.

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By mark, June 5, 2007 at 11:26 am #
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Libby should be held to the same standard as the Israeli spy Pollard. Caspar Weinberger frequently argued against parole or pardon because of a lack of remorse from Pollard. Fitzgerald at the sentencing hearing said the same thing, that Libby showed no remorse in obstructing an investigation of treason at the highest levels.

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By anonymous, June 5, 2007 at 11:12 am #
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If Paris can do time, so can Scooter.

My best hope is that the Wilsons will be successful in court against all of them. 

You can help by donating to the cause at:

http://www.wilsonsupport.org/

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