Atheo and others interested in some “truth digging”, here’s a Democracy Now with Seymour Hersh, rush transcriptand Podcast.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/24/143208

#72295 by atheo on 5/24 at 7:21 am

While I agree with your post regarding US/ Iran/Nukes, it seems you are just as apt here to confuse over the top fundamentalism - if this guy’s even for real - with theism as you did with the Hedges’ piece.

@ #72232

1) It is the U.S. that is in violation of the NPT, not Iran.

2) Closing sea ports is an aggressive war act (the supreme crime).

3) It sounds as though you support theocracy and are a traitor to the U.S. constitution.

#72133 by atheo on 5/23 at 7:00 pm

Thanks for the link.

Rebutting the NYT’s reports on “run ups to war” has become essential. We cannot count on the media to provide the context. They are in fact, giving birth to the escalation to sanctions, which leads to war. Sanger’s story is taken at face value and newspapers and others up and down the media corridors repeat and repeat.

The IAEA is very thorough in their work - kind of like the reports that came back from the UN WMD inspectors in Iraq. As I recall, and it’s well documented, that the reports were regularly reporting two things: 1) Saddam increases his cooperation, 2) there is no evidence of WMDs. But this did not stop Bush and the media to push the buttons to war.

I expect Sanger and the NYT not to back off - Sanger and others will spin it and expect, as is usually the case, not to be questioned. That’s how the game is played on the home front - the narrative is sent off into the ether - unquestioned, left to be “truth”.

Gore refers to this as The Assault On Reason.

The BBC report seems to have been debunked:

IAEA Report Contradicts Major Media Narrative On Iran

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seanpaul-kelley/iaea-report-contradicts-m_b_49136.html

#72118 by QuyTran on 5/23 at 6:18 pm

Here’s the ultimate irony, QuyTran, the US started Iran’s nuclear program decades ago. To date, there is no indication that Iran has broken with its NPT agreement. The issue is that the revolution back in the 1970s (removing the Shah, the US backed tyrant) threatened the US foothold in the Middle East. That’s when the US gave full support to Saddam Hussein, providing him with every type of WMD imginable to fight Iran. Those weapons were used to murder thousands of Kurds - the US was complicit with a many of the murders Saddam committed. (And as you know, we also supplied Bin Ladden.) Oh what a tangled web the US foreign policies of hegemony weaves.

Here’s a little history and a link to more:

The foundations for Iran’s nuclear program were laid in the 1960 under auspices of the U.S. within the framework of bilateral agreements between the two countries. In 1967 the Tehran Nuclear Research Center (TNRC) was built and run by the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI). The TNRC was equipped with a US supplied 5-megawatt nuclear research reactor. Iran signed and ratified the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty in 1968. With the establishment of Iran’s atomic agency and the NPT in place plans were drawn by Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi (Iran’s monarch) to construct up to 23 nuclear power stations across the country together with USA by the year 2000.

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=10023

If Iran bought U.S. nuclear technology and had its supports I think verything will be ok.

How stupid is it ?

Oh yea, and while we’re at it WHY?

Because with the exception of the US (who ignores its treaty obligation) the others have not even signed on to the Non-Proliferation Treaty and HENCE, they are not under IAEA scrutiny.

How convenient. What a dubious world we live in - some rules for them and other rules for them - and where’s our wonderful media to lay it out and provide the context. NO WHERE!

And who, pray tell, is the watchdog watching over US nuclear programs? Or India’s? Or Pakistan’s, or Israel’s?

No answer. Well NO ONE!