NON VIOLENCE, IS A STATEMENT, TO KILLERS OF HOPE,
THOSE WHO HAVE DONE THIS ACT OF CRUELTY TO THIS PRECIOUS, AND SACRED WOMAN, PRACTICE A BELIEF AND A FAITH THAT SHOULD BE OUTLAWED IN THE ARENA OF HUMAN RIGHTS, RELIGIONS, ARE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED GUIDE LINES,
THIS PLANET IS IN NEED OF A RESTRUCTURING,  LOVE IS THE ONLY ANSWER TO THIS DILEMNA, I BOW MY HEAD TO ALL THE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE DEEPLY WOUNDED BY THE DEATH OF THIS BEAUTIFUL SOUL,
NO AMOUNT OF THEORY WILL RESTORE HER PRECIOUS LIFE,
THIS CONFLICT ON THIS PLANET AT THIS TIME, IS AGAINST THE WISHS OF THAT WHICH IS PURE AND SACRED,
LOVE IS WHAT WE SHARE, AND GIVE, HATE IS A BREEDING GROUND OF MORE HATE, NEW SYSTEMS OF THOUGHT MUST BE
GIVEN TO HUMANITY AS A WHOLE , IF NOT ALL WOMEN ON THIS PLANET WILL REBEL, IT IS A FACT THEY WILL,
THEY WILL NOT ALLOW THEIR CHILDREN AND BABIES SUFFER
THESE INDIGNITIES, JESUS TAUGHT LOVE, WHAT ARE THESE COUNTRIES OR BELIEF SYSTEMS TEACHING THESE PEOPLE, THAT IT IS ALRIGHT TO DESTROY AND TAKE INTO THEIR HANDS THE DEATH OF ANOTHER, HOW SHAMEFUL THIS IS TO HUMANITY, I AM LIKE ALL THE REST WHO HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO, AM SHOCKED AND HORRIFIED BY THE LACK OF COMPASSION THIS WOMAN RECEIVED , THEY CARRY THE MAKINGS OF THE 21ST CENTURY CELL PHONES IN THEIR HANDS
WHILE THEY EXECUTE A YOUNG WOMAN WITH HER WHOLE LIFE AHEAD OF HER, HOW DARE THEY DO THIS TO THIS INNOCENT WOMAN,
MY HEART IS FILLED WITH GREAT PAIN OVER THIS WOMANS
PAIN, I WISH I COULD DONE SOMETHING TO PREVENT HER DEATH.

She was a beautiful young girl.
I wonder if anyone would have cared if she was a fat ugly young girl?

God forbid we should be concerned with anyone other than the aesthetically beautiful.

My apologise.  (The news reported originally the girl was Shia.)

Her name was DOA, 17 years old.  She was Yazidi not Muslim, from a village near Mosul in northern Iraq.  She fell in love with a sunni muslim male and converted. 

These “honor” killings are quite common throughout the muslim world, as the cultural mindset is the same.
As is the male chauvinism that brought Doa’s life to an early end.

As a person of Muslim parents, I despaired at the sight of the pride with which the girl was dragged out in a head lock, stoned and kicked to death by men, lying there half naked; An orgy of male brutality.  How much courage must it have taken to over power that girl. 

There may be backwardness in other religions or cultures but there is no way to spin this.  No apologist’s touble talk can wash away the blood. And NOTHING can mitigate the complicity to this Barbarism, by way of action, or inaction, on the part of muslim men.  No leader ever speaks out in the muslim world against this blood fest.  “She never lived and she never died,” as Fast Eddie would say.

Of course all this would never have been known if the men didn’t record these events to set an example of their prowess.  Unlike other events, this was youtubed. And as I’ve always joked, there is no limit to the Vanity of a muslim man.

If this is the norm then let Israel take whatever it wants.  What moral authority does anyone have to object to Israeli or American bombs, when one nameless girl fell in love, only to have her face kicked and stoned to death by men of god.  The men who did this had the proud certainty of their ignorant interpretation of Islam and the cultural norms of their little world.  No society deserves to be remembered by history if this is the end product of a high minded religion.  Let it all fall into the abyss if one teenage girl is dragged out by a brave MOB of men and judged unworthy of live.  (I suspect they went straight to the mosque and prayed after a days good work.)

I once got on the case of EVAN SAYET, lecturing him, via letters, for unfairly trashing and blaming Liberals for the worlds ills; for embracing his new friends like Pat Roberson and Ann Coulter.  I supported Prof. NORMAN FINKELSTEIN’s right to free speech because I thought Alan Dershowitz, AIPAC and those right wing thugs were unfairly throwing their weight around as though Likud was ruling the world.  I believed no one had a monopoly on the truth, be they Jews, Christian, Muslims etc,.
And now, after that poor girl’s brutal execution in public, one feels somewhat lost. I wonder if I’ll ever get that fire back to take on, in my own humble way, the forces of ignorance and demigogery.

I doubt many in America will believe me when I say this is the backwardness Mohammed tried to counteract some 1400 years ago.  I think I can safely say he faild in his attempt to bring humane civility and rationality. 

We judge a society’s moral authority and strength by how they protect the most vulnerable members of their society.  How will any muslim nation be judged?  Even those who remain complicite through their silence. 
I’ve often written about the craziness of today’s politics and religion with a comedic spin.  Today I find nothing in this whole sordid episode except shame.

Shame on every arrogant Male.

As my Catholic friend once said, “let he who has not sinned cast the first stone”.

Arshad
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This is what we have gotten into a world so completely alien to our own it defies description.The muslim world is 500 years behind the west.You can read about similar grotesque occurrences during the dark and middle ages in Europe including the different inquisitions.We are trying to speed up the transistion to modernity through force while showering the middle east with cash.
The greatest thing we could do for the middle east is for us to gain energy independence here and bring down the price of oil and force them through economic necessity to develop their people and have to deal with the rest of world.This is how better ideas get spread.No one listens to a better idea at the point of a gun.

Religious fanatics are everywhere!
Example religious right in the USA
killing abortion doctors. Not any different
than the stoning this young woman to death.
Bring our troops home immediately! Not one more
soldier should lose his/her life trying to bring democracy to these barbarians!

Dear webster

Being of german heritage I have read a lot of history about hitler.  While you might not think of him as a christian he thought of himselve as christian.  He thought he was doing Gods work in ridding the world of the killers of christ.  This is one reson the pope supported him somewhat.  No the pope did not like him but in a choice between a madman how believed in God and the Godless communist which one do you think the pope would support

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The church was the first to realize that by controlling the police and army and later the schools they could attack people who were happy to live in their traditional cultures. It was the way the Nazis were later to defeat German Democracy. Hitler was raised a Christian and was given the views he had by Christian teaching. He could not have been who he was without his Christian up bringing.

He was a nut case, but so is Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and a list too long, but not excluding the Pope, who wants to extend poverty by forcing woman to have children and pretending that sex is only about reproduction. He can’t even control his priests and in fact in 2000 years they have never been able to control the priests, because what they demand of priests is un-natural and not wise at all.

As to honor killings by Moslems we even had one in St. Louis and the poor girls offense was wanting to be an American and join American culture. It could be asked why are these people here if they don’t want to be part of the country?

I agree that it would not have happaned if Saddam was still in power.

Currently you have to question the ignition source for the secterian violence that has started this hatred off again, which pretty much died out under Saddam.

Divide and conquere as the British practice.

In Iraq if the Sunnies and the Shites grouped together the coalition forces would have a much harder time contending with the resistance movement.

But as it stands, a few bombs placed by always unknown ‘new’ groups, is in my mind totally suspicous.
For an element to benefit so much when an event is happening you have to question who is really igniting the secterian violence constantly.

Devide and conquere, it’s happening now, I wonder how long it will be until people try to ignore it and remove the real enemy from that country.

When Marshal Tito died, Yugoslavia also dissolved into chaos.  Doesn’t anybody remember that the term “ethnic cleansing” originated in Europe?  Is Bosnia a “cesspool”?  We’re still there some 15 years later, after all.  What would the Balkans be like if we had abandoned Patricia Mullins’s “14th Century backwater”  while Dale Headley had whined about how Tito would never have permitted this, Douglas Chalmers pontificated about the refugees, and ‘rage’ looked down her nose at the “sallow-complexioned” Slavs on whom liberty & freedom is wasted?

And Rob’s absurd contention that Hitler was a Christian displays only his historical ignorance, showing that he, too, has been taken in by the Nazi propaganda machine, even decades later.  The alleged “genocide” in the Old Testament was the judgment of God against unbelievably vile and wicked peoples, (child sacrifice, forced prostitution, etc.). Any allegations of genocide against the perennially persecuted Christians must surely be taken with a grain of salt, especially given the Catholic tradition of sprinkling everyone in their jurisdiction with holy water, and calling them Christians, regardless of their beliefs.  And to say that “many” abolitionists were atheists is, quite simply, laughable.  Even Ben Franklin was a theist, having advocated daily prayer at the Constitutional Convention.  Abolition, in this country and in the UK, was driven by Christian concern and love for fellow man, most prominently by the Quakers.

And this is the country to which we have brought freedom and democracy?  Sorry folks, but Saddam would never have permitted this.

So how is this different from Ireland last century? What happened if a Catholic girl got involved with a Protestant boy? Was this allowed? Or did someone get hurt or killed?

The Christian Bible, after all, tells us to kill disobedient children. The Jews in the Old Testament committed genocide in the extreme. I could site two dozen examples off the top of my head. They were succeeded by the Christians, who took genocide to a new level. Look at Hitler, who as a matter of fact, doing what he believed was the work of Christ. Look at what is happening in Nigeria, with Christians killing Muslims, and vice versa. Very few churches in our own country took anything like a proactive stance on slavery and its resultant killings. Many of the most ardent abolitionists were atheists.

This is what religion is all about, isn’t it? Kill everyone who doesn’t believe exactly as you do.

As an African-American woman I have been fairly blessed in my life and have been allowed to do anything I put my mind to and my race and my gendered have never gotten in the way. I cannot imagine living in a nation where things were completed opposite. Other nations were attacking me for my race and my OWN nation attacking me for my gender. One of the Millennium Development Goals is to promote gender equality and empower women worldwide. In 2000 all 191 UN member nations agreed to these goals. However little is being done by the United States to enact change. Organizations such as the Borgen Project are working to bring political accountability to the cause. Perhaps it’s not too bold to say that failure to implement these goals holds the US mildly responsible for these horrific atrocities.

The video was nothing if not simply horrific. I was sickened to my stomach when that poor child stopped moving. All I could think was that, but for Divine Grace and fate, chance, and circumstance, that could have been me or any young woman born to that culture who dared to venture beyond her ethnic boundaries to love another.

I was not so much moved though by the inhumane barbarity of the act as the I am the universal bigotry that pervades the whole of Earth’s human race. How quick we are to use our strenghts and advantages one over another to bend each other to our selfish wills and ways. We see this daily in the form of the horrors of institutionalized sexism, starvation, homelessness, poverty, slavery, war refugees, ethnic purges, nationalism, religious bigotry, castes, societal sectarianism, murders, and other wicked machinations by which brother is pitted evilly and viciously against brother with some ridiculous justification bred from fear, intolerance, and ignorance. We are all so sad and hopeless at times.

There is only one race - THE HUMAN RACE. Were this not so, people from different nations and ethnicities would never be able to come together to have a child. Unfortunately, a child born from the purity of that love is still subject to death and human damnation. We need to check ourselves. It’s not just over there. It’s here too. We have people who are different consummed alive by like minded majorities of fearful people to occur right here. Remember Amidou Diallo, James Byrd, and Matthew Shepherd? That happened in New York, Texas, and Wyoming respectively - Right Here in GOD Blessed America.

This poor girl’s sentence has nothing to do with the so-called Bush War on Terror in Iraq. And, this is not just another damning demonstration of why the “gift” occidental imperial colonial “liberty and freedom” is wasted on the brown and olive complexioned heathens of the Muslim orient. This is a matter of the world coming together to finally have that sincere conversation about EQUAL HUMAN RIGHTS AND JUSTICE. We will never have peace without this. We are all here on Earth, and obviously meant to take a seat at Humanity’s table, where all our unique differences can be celebrated and equally appreciated. What needs to be brought to bare more than the ruthless injustice of the act is the right of that young woman to love as her heart had led her to love. Hers was not a criminal act. That beautiful young woman wanted nothing wrong, and did not deserve to die for exercising the prerogative to define herself through her autonomy. It’s all any senscient human being wants to be free.

Unfortunately, this most recent exhibition of barbarism is nothing new.  And honor killings aren’t limited to one region, but are carried out throughout Iraq.  Why do you think they call them “tribes?”  The very notion that we’re engendering democracy there is ludicrous.  I propose we immediately remove all our troops from that 11th Century backwater, taking the women and children with us.  Let the Women-Hating-He-Men’s Clubs find someone else to harass, subjugate, persecute and murder.

Ah, the goodness, the charity, the peace-loving servants, of religion, and ‘god’.

What a horrific slaughter. Perhaps we can do something practical about preventing it’s recurrence.

The next time we hear of an impending stoning, why don’t we volunteer Bush as a substitute for the stonee?
That would turn a senseless tragedy into a deserved fate, and, on the off chance there is a ‘god’, delight him/her/it that some humans act rationally.