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Rice, Putin Trade Sharp Words

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Posted on May 10, 2007
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Stand and deliver:  Putin is peeved about the United States’ planned missile defense system in nearby European countries.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, awaiting U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s visit next week, insinuated Wednesday during a speech commemorating Russian WWII veterans that American foreign policy was comparable to that of the Third Reich in the late 1930s.  Meanwhile, on Thursday Rice criticized Putin’s administration for consolidating and centralizing too much power at the Kremlin.


International Herald Tribune:

Putin did not specifically name the United States or NATO but used phrasing similar to that which he has used previously to criticize American foreign policy while making an analogy to Nazi Germany.

The comments marked the latest in a series of sharply worded Russian criticisms of the foreign policy of the Untied States - on Iraq, missile defense, NATO expansion and, broadly, the accusation that the United States has striven to single-handedly dominate world affairs.

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By Skruff, May 14, 2007 at 11:02 am Link to this comment
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69408 by Peter RV on 5/11 at 12:24 pm asks”
“...who is Condoleeza Rice to give opinion ,and never mind critisize,the political system in Russia?
Is she a representative of a country which has solved all its problems?”

Couldn’t agree more ole chap… BUT you forgot children eating out of dumpsters and more young African Americans in jail than in college.

“Shame of the civilized world” is an understatement.

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By Douglas Chalmers, May 11, 2007 at 2:32 pm Link to this comment

Yes, the invasion of Poland and the Rhineland could be compared to the invasion of Iraq and the bombing of Somalia and Lebanon (no, its NOT a war!). Also, and more telling, the 9/11 slaughter could be compared to burning down the Reichstag in the 1930’s!

On investigating what really happened not only in Iraq but with 9/11 is significant and timely as all the evidence now points to a deliberate sabotage including a controlled demolition concurrent with the fake plane hijackings and a missile strike on the Pentagon -  http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php

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By Peter RV, May 11, 2007 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment
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Advices should be wellcomed only if sollicited.
  But who is Condoleeza Rice to give opinion ,and never mind critisize,the political system in Russia?
  Is she a representative of a country which has solved all its problems?
  To whom, on earth, can American give exemple how to live and behave?
  We don’t even have a democracy any longer. We vote to end the war and our “democratic” leaders are cheating us back into this endless and immoral war.
  The whole world saw how we treated our own citizens in New Orleans.
  The whole world saw how we treat our helpless prisoners in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.
  The whole World witnessed our Hitlerian way of introducing Condoleeza’s democracy by “shock and
awe”.
  The whole world knows about wonton murders and
rapes perpetrated by our soldiers we are supposed to adore and “support”.
  Our multi-million prison population is already famous in the world.
  Our medical care is the shame of the civilized World.
  We are the absolute leaders in crime rate in our streets.
  We have a real mafia running our foreign policy.
  This roughly represents our endearing American Exceptionalism.
  There is a saying that “those who know- do, and those who don’t- teach”.
  Condoleeza (a long time teacher) has failed in every aspect as the Secretary of State, in absolutely everything she endevored. Bush, most likely, put her there because she could find Russia on the map (russian expert) and she could speak English, which he manifestly can’t.
  We are really a shameless people without any sense of ridicule.

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By Fadel Abdallah, May 11, 2007 at 9:26 am Link to this comment

The only bad part about Putin’s statement is that he said it in diplomatic subtle language. If one wants to call a spade a spade, it should have been said in clear and pointed language.

I, like Noam Chomsky, was one who mourned the collapse of the Soviet Union because it removed the one power that could keep in check our arrogant power. I am glad that despite the collapse of the Soviet Union, Putin still symbolizes the spirit of resistance to the U.S. arrogance and evil.

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By carlito paquito, May 11, 2007 at 7:50 am Link to this comment
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“As we said when kids, “it takes a thief to catch a thief” by extention it takes one fascist to know another. ”  Excellent Point James Yell, and may I add to your excellent analogy? typical PP’s (Psychotic Personalities), discussed in Kurt Vonnegut final book, “Man without a Country”, do one thing similar they point one finger while both have three pointing right back at em! Bravo James Yell and Kurt Vonnegut today!

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By Verne Arnold, May 11, 2007 at 5:25 am Link to this comment

Problem?  Do you see a problem?  I don’t see a problem…at least not with the truth.

Noam Chomsky mourned the collapse of the Soviet Union because it removed the one country that could balance our power.  With that gone, he feared what America would do…in this he was prophetic.  We’re there!!!

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By vet240, May 10, 2007 at 10:31 pm Link to this comment
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If Putin suddenly became eligable to run for president I would once again vote against bu$h or any member of his family.

Putin grew up in a society much like the one bu$h would prefer to be “The Decider” in.

bu$h had the audacity to say things would be easier for him if he were a dictator rather than a President.

Rice? To put it into an old saying around the golf course, she couldn’t carry his (Putins) bag.
She is hopelessly unfit for the position bu$h put her in just as are most of those holding bu$h appointed positions.

In an excerpt published in 2006, Writer Vonnegut observed that “George W. Bush has gathered around him ... most frighteningly, psychopathic personalities, or PPs, the medical term for smart, personable people who have no consciences.”

This description of bu$h appointees is indeed reminiscent fo the Third Reich. They only recognize power as the validation for their existance.

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By rowdy, May 10, 2007 at 10:20 pm Link to this comment

PRESIDENT BUSH: I will answer the question. I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country. And I appreciated so very much the frank dialogue.
BUSH DIDN’T LOOK VERY DEEPLY.

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By John Lowell, May 10, 2007 at 8:17 pm Link to this comment
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The Bush Regime seems determined to make an enemy out of a Russia that was well on the way to being made a friend following the collapse of the socialism. The NATO alliance which should have been dissolved in the early 1990s, now encompasses a number of former Warsaw Pact countries. One wonders what requirement compelled this expansion. What need is there to protect any NATO country anyway, particularly those newest closest to Russia?

Putin makes a fair point about US missle shields stationed in Central and Eastern Europe, those ostensibly aimed at Iran but more obviously at Russia. With our continued meddling in the affairs of the states formerly comprising the Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics - a project enthusiastically encouraged by neo-con interests, interestingly - one sees the same kind of intrigue and ham-fistedness characteristic of American operatives in Iran, those on which Sy Hersh of the New Yorker has reported recently. And who these days would be apt to give credence to any account of Condoleeza Rice’s, Rush Limbaugh perhaps? One would now think a State Department steeped in humility would be the right formula for the future.

The time has come for the Bush Regime to end the constant provocations of Putin. They bring with them both the resurrection of genuine concerns about nuclear destruction and a very curious sense of justice to portions of the reply made by Josef Stalin in Pravda to Churchill’s famous Iron Curtain speech in 1946:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/02/1st.draft/pravda.html

Its time for us to come home, home from Iraq, home from Korea, home from our adventurism in the land of the Czars.

John Lowell

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By R.M., May 10, 2007 at 8:15 pm Link to this comment
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Odd that they should be criticizing each other for the same thing.  Putin could move in to the White House and Bush could move into the Kremlin…

I don’t think anyone would notice the change…

How do you say “Nookular” in russian?

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By QuyTran, May 10, 2007 at 7:04 pm Link to this comment

The two dogs exchange barking between themselves.

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By Jack Williams, May 10, 2007 at 5:49 pm Link to this comment
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Only our foreign policy?????

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By John Lowell, May 10, 2007 at 4:48 pm Link to this comment
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The Bush Regime seems determined to make an enemy out of a Russia that following the collapse of the socialism was well on the way to being made a friend. The NATO alliance which should have been dissolved in the early 1990s, now encompasses a number of former Warsaw Pact countries. One wonders what requirement compelled this expansion. From what to protect any NATO country anyway, particularly those newest closest to Russia? Putin makes a fair point about US missle shields stationed in Central and Eastern Europe ostensibly aimed at Iran but more immediately at Russia. With our continued meddling in the affairs of the states formerly comprising the Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics - a project being encouraged by neo-con interests interestingly - one sees the same kind of intrigue and ham-fistedness exposed by Sy Hersh of American operatives in Iran. And who these days would be apt to give credence to an account of Condoleeza Rice’s, Rush Limbaugh perhaps? One would now think a State Department steeped in humility would be the right formula for the future but that’s a vain hope.

We need to cease with the provocations of Putin. They bring with them the resurrection of genuine concerns about nuclear destruction and a very curious sense of justice to portions of the reply made by Josef Stalin in Pravda to Churchill’s famous Iron Curtin speech in 1946:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/episodes/02/1st.draft/pravda.html

Its time for us to come home, home from Iraq, home from Korea, home from our adventures in the land of the Czars.

John Lowell

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By PatrickHenry, May 10, 2007 at 4:43 pm Link to this comment

Mr. Putin

  Please be patient.  The American voters are prepared to remedy our current administration…..soon.

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By ellec, May 10, 2007 at 4:06 pm Link to this comment
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This is the first time I’ve heard a political leader say something to this extent. It really goes to show that America has fallen a long way from where we used to stand in the world. Bush has forgotten about diplomacy, foreign aid and humanitarian causes that benefit all involved. Bush has spent over $340 billion on the Iraq war without any positive outcome.

The Borgen Project states that $19 billion annually can end starvation and $23 billion can reverse the spread of Malaria and AIDS. With these issues being so easily addressed and so connected to why extremism exists, it’s no wonder that this country’s leaders are no longer respected in the world.

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By mike Vaelntine, May 10, 2007 at 4:04 pm Link to this comment
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How bad is it when the former head of the Soviet secret service is calling our country to account by comparing us to the Nazis?

Impeach the liar Bush and restore American standing in the world.

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By James Yell, May 10, 2007 at 3:37 pm Link to this comment
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As we said when kids, “it takes a thief to catch a thief” by extention it takes one fascist to know another.

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