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L.A. Police Chief Sides With Marchers

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Posted on May 7, 2007
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As many as 60 LAPD officers have been pulled from the streets, following a violent clash with protesters on May 1. Chief William Bratton has called some of the actions of the officers, who attempted to break up an apparently peaceful and lawful rally by firing 148 rubber bullets, “indefensible.”


AP via Yahoo:

Bratton said he spent the weekend viewing video of the MacArthur Park incident and he said LAPD failures were widespread, with officers from the top on down culpable.

“I’m not going to defend the indefensible,” Bratton told journalists groups during a meeting at a television studio in Hollywood. “Things were done that shouldn’t have been done.”

Journalists were among those roughed up as Metropolitan Division’s B Platoon moved through MacArthur and fired 148 rubber bullets to break up what had been a peaceful and lawful immigration rally.

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By Douglas Chalmers, May 8, 2007 at 5:00 am Link to this comment

#68698 by Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD on 5/07 at 7:22 pm: “...Charlie #68593, I just watched the “John Lennon” movie and the parallels are amazingly striking.  W is a clone of Nixon, Iraq of Viet Nam….”

First the rubber bullets, then the water cannon. After that, live ammunition and dead bodies…... maybe at a university or college ......Arnie’s “National Guard” goes wild!!!

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, May 7, 2007 at 8:22 pm Link to this comment

Charlie #68593, I just watched the “John Lennon” movie and the parallels are amazingly striking.  W is a clone of Nixon, Iraq of Viet Nam.  What’s missing now is the resolve of young people to make a change.  Apparently, the gov. has us right where they want us.  How did this happen?

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By RAE, May 7, 2007 at 5:40 pm Link to this comment

The “them vs us” mentality displayed by “authorities” all over the world is an inevitable consequence of their enforcement role + training + experience.

I haven’t attended “police school” but I’d bet it’s 90% about how to overpower and control another and 10% about understanding, compassion, consultation and mediation.

Police don’t often get to meet face to face with reasonable, decent folk. They’re required to deal with some really nasty people every day - people who would readily “blow the cops away” if they got the chance.

I wonder how YOU would react if you were faced with irrational, drugged, violent, dangerous people every shift? Would you “err” on the side of protecting yourself FIRST or giving the benefit of the doubt to an out-of-control citizen and risk your own life as a reward?

It amazing to me that police don’t commit MORE violent crimes against citizens! Citizens should be notified that THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO BEHAVE AS REASONABLE ADULTS and FOLLOW THE RULES OF LAW… and if they choose not to, then the consequences are their own damn fault.

Remember, in many countries, police use REAL bullets, not rubber ones to quell riots and disorderly conduct by dangerous mobs.

You’d think we’d have come up with some better method of crowd control by now.

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By Dale Headley, May 7, 2007 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment
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...and the whole world watches.

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By Rick, May 7, 2007 at 2:23 pm Link to this comment
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As a nation that prides itself on feedom of expression…democracy….and on being the bestest country on earth…the incident in question is a testament to the truth..we as a nation are bullies…from the beginning(remember westward expansion)we destroyed and humiliated whole cultures and peoples…first at home(our very own natives)...then abroad(the Phillipines,Dominican Republic,Guatemala,Chile,Nicaragua…to name a few)...other cultures have done this…but at least now they have admitted their wrongs…and excluded themselves from further acts of genocide as best they can….well…their is Germany…......We still act like The Confederacy was something to be proud of and John Wayne was right in killing the injuns

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By LonewackoDotCom, May 7, 2007 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment

Of course, if this site wanted to dig, they’d point out that Bratton is extremely PC and willing to put his public image above what’s in the best interests of the city.

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By tomack, May 7, 2007 at 12:43 pm Link to this comment
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“Four dead in Oh High Yo….......”

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By QuyTran, May 7, 2007 at 11:41 am Link to this comment

Hey guys, don’t forget Rodney King ! LA police is always acting stupid.

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By Yarrow, May 7, 2007 at 9:56 am Link to this comment
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I would like to say the comment before mine is very true. In most cases we need support from police, instead people wait until they are in serious trouble before they call the police, if they call them at all. Police serve no purpose these days, the only valuable role that they serve has been twisted and destroyed. Police need to protect the people and defend their right to freedom of speech. I would think that we would be better served policing ourselves.

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By CHARLIE KASNICK, May 7, 2007 at 9:25 am Link to this comment
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WHOOO,IS IT 1968 ALL OVER! AN UNPOPULAR WAR,POLICE OUT OF CONTROL ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.PROTESTERS ATTACKED AND DEMONIZED.

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By kevin99999, May 7, 2007 at 8:49 am Link to this comment
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L A Police is notorious for these types of things. Every time there is an incidence of police brutality, there is obligatory apology from he police chief followed by promise of investigation…but nothing seems to happen. If you ask me, majority of the police acts like criminal themselves.

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By Verne Arnold, May 7, 2007 at 7:07 am Link to this comment

In the late 60’s I worked as a volunteer at a street clinic in Oregon.  On more than one occasion we had to go on call to a “bad trip” and deal with people who were out of control because of drugs or who knows.  When a person was violent beyond our ability to handle it we would call the police.  In those days the police were human beings not storm troopers.  I worked many times with them to a good end.  We would talk about the “siuation” and decide together what to do.  In my experience no one was ever hurt. 

Today, the police are like storm troopers and there is no dealing (translate; talking) with them.  They are trained to have absolute control under all circumstances and if they think (by their training) they don’t have it they get violent and start shooting.  Our society condones this.

Thus…MacArthur Park will be repeated again and again.

We get what we ask for: we must be very carefull and thoughtful in the thing we ask for.  Do we really want total protection from womb to tomb?

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