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They Wanna Be Like Ron

Posted on May 4, 2007

With President Bush slumping in the polls, it’s no wonder the Republican candidates chose to model Ronald Reagan at their first debate. The front-runners, especially, avoided mentioning Bush almost as urgently as the topic of abortion. Iran-Contra just pales in comparison to Niger-WMD-Katrina-U.S. Attorney-Missing E-mail-Secret Prison-Jeff Gannon-Domestic Spying-Halliburton-Abu Ghraib-Plame-Gate.

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SIMI VALLEY, Calif.—Ten Republican presidential candidates wanting to succeed President Bush embraced a more popular president, conservative icon Ronald Reagan, at every turn in their first debate of the 2008 race.

“Ronald Reagan was a president of strength,” Mitt Romney intoned. “Ronald Reagan used to say, we spend money like a drunken sailor,” said John McCain.  And Rudy Giuliani praised “that Ronald Reagan optimism.”

The world, however, is far different today than it was some 25 years ago when the nation’s 40th president relaxed at his retreat in the rolling hills of Southern California.

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By Louise, May 5, 2007 at 12:17 pm Link to this comment
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Interesting isn’t it?
Counting the dubya, there have been ten republican presidents in the past 100 years. With a total of 58.5 years of “serving” the people.

Wouldn’t you think they could find someone who better represents conservative policy than Reagan?

Perhaps the problem is they [Ron Paul excepted] really don’t know what conservative policy is. Which pretty well proves any one of them [Ron Paul excepted] will guarantee to stay dubya’s course.

When there is no Captain at the helm, the ship is left to the whims of the wind and waves, unless somebody [or several somebody’s] sees the opportunity to take control of the ship and set the course to better serve their personal agenda.

Such is the state of the State of the Nation.

The saddest commentary on this collection of republican presidential wannabees [Ron Paul excepted] is they stand in praise of a ship without a captain. They actually embrace this as responsible leadership. So, no matter how they may want to avoid mentioning dubya, their every word and action screams ME TOO!

Having done their dutiful best to convince the people Reagan was the great president they all want to emulate, what now?

I suggest if they really want to have a lively debate, [Guaranteed to make the people sit up and take notice] they hold the next one at the Nixon Library. He really is the one they should honor and recognize. After all the level of dishonesty we have all come to accept as republican presidential policy was initiated by him. Well, not entirely ... he had help ... but he’s the one most still remember.

Meanwhile Eisenhower, [The closest to great president they’ve had in the past century] rolls over in his grave and mutters, “Please don’t let them remember me. I want the truth of my legacy to stand on it’s own merits.”

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By Bob Zimmerman, May 4, 2007 at 5:12 pm Link to this comment
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The Republican debate last evening did not shed much light other than the candidates were all prepped well to discuss the Republican talking points, while ignoring any mention of the elephant in the room - George W. Bush. You would have thought that there weren’t any Republican’s elected to the presidency since St. Reagan occupied the oval office. My net-net reaction after the debate was over was that all of these guys lacked authenticity - they all came across as politicians steeped in white bread Republicanism. But did they really want to come across as used car salesmen? Contrast that with the Democratic candidates who actually had positions different from each other, and ethnicity other than white. To be fair, McCain does believe in evolution but had to ruin it with his dumb comment about the beauty of the Grand Canyon (true but not relevant). And of course there is nothing much worse than a bunch of old guys talking about abortion, a subject they will only have to confront in the abstract. And where was Iraq in this debate - I had the feeling they were all getting ready to bomb Iran back to the stone age. 2008 may be the most important presidential election since 1860. I hope the electorate makes the right choice and goes for a new car not a car with too many miles on it sold by guys who don’t want to tell you the miles have been rolled back and it had no maintenance for eight years.

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By Dale Headley, May 4, 2007 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment
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Ronald Reagan, were he still around, would thank George W. Bush for his eye-popping incompetence, because it prevents himself from being rated by objective historians as the worst president in modern times.  And a bevy of presidents from history should rise in their graves and thank him for preventing any of them being named the worst president in Amercan history - by far!

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By 911truthdotorg, May 4, 2007 at 12:54 pm Link to this comment

Forget Reagan, they should all want to be like the other Ron - Ron Paul.

Ron Paul blew the rest of those rescumlicans away last night! Big time. Rudy and McRomney sicken me.

Can we have a co-Presidency?

Mike Gravel/Dennis Kucinich/Ron Paul
(or some variation.)

They ALL know the “official” story of 9/11 is a fairy tale and love the Constitution. We need them.

Google video: 9/11 Press for Truth, Loose Change 2nd Edition.

Ron Paul is in this video:
America: Freedom to Fascism

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By THOMAS BILLIS, May 4, 2007 at 12:31 pm Link to this comment
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Why not Lincln or Teddy Roosevelt?Who gives a shit what he did?What are you going to do?Coming out of the dung heap of Nixon and Ford bonzo the chimp would have looked good.By the way wasn’t Bonzo a costar of Reagan who gave him most of his acting tips?This glorification of Reagan as President is beyond lies agreed upon it is once upon time stuff.But the Republican Party never lies about the direction they are headed, backward, and up until now we kept buying it.Be careful black republicans you can never be sure how far back they want to go.Remember like they argue the confederate flag is a states rights issue it is the same arguement they made for segregation.

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By Ari Silverman, Washington DC, May 4, 2007 at 10:55 am Link to this comment
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Were people as frustrated as I am about the past two so-called presidential debates? I can’t see how we are going to solve the real problems in this world with such political fluff. And the moderaters asked such softball questions. 
I did find this list on the Washington Post’s Offbeat Blog of Questions We’d Like To Hear
Don’t know if it’s dignified enough for network TV but it certainly cuts the crap!

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By Lee, May 4, 2007 at 10:46 am Link to this comment
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It’s been 18 years since the guy held office. That time span makes it easier for these wretches to deify the ex-actor and to re-create a Reagan who never existed. These degenerate politicians are not only grasping at straws they’re grasping at strawmen. But since Washington DC has surpassed Hollywood as fantasy capital of the world, what else would anyone expect.

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By QuyTran, May 4, 2007 at 10:42 am Link to this comment

Hey guys, just try to be as high as Ron’s heels !

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By Taylor, May 4, 2007 at 9:17 am Link to this comment
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Another topic that was avoided was poverty. With it being such a prevalent issue, it should really be more of a priority to find out what our potential leaders plan to do about it. According to the Borgen Project 1 in 5 people currently live on $1 a day. In 2000 we agreed to the UN Millennium Goals which set a timeline for the elimination of global poverty. I want to know that our future president is going to meet these goals.

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By Bill Blackolive, May 4, 2007 at 8:57 am Link to this comment
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Reagan’s CIA allowed/encouraged,the lopping off of women’s breasts, and so on. Reagan knew of all this.  Reagan but pretended to be without cognizance.  We are in Schizoid Nation.  The politicians who see the 9/11 coverup better get to talking out loud.

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By Leefeller, May 4, 2007 at 8:31 am Link to this comment
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Of course the Republicans are going to ignore and not bring up the U.S. Attorney-Missing E-mail-Secret Prison-Jeff Gannon-Domestic Spying-Haliburton-Abu Ghraib-Plame-Gate. They need to butter thier own bread, which means business as usual. Feed the public pablum and tell them to watch Fox “The News Channel” and go shopping.

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By G. Anderson, May 4, 2007 at 8:07 am Link to this comment
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Ronald Reagan, to the Republicans he respresnts the golden age of Republicanism.

Lets hope it stays that way. The Savings and Loan scandal, Iran Contra.. and on and on and on…

Yes, he had a pretty smile, and could deliver a speach, but he put us on the road to Bush as sure as hell.

That’s when our politicians turned their backs on the American people, and Rush Limbaugh told them it was ok.

It’s quite possible that Reagans “happy talk”, was nothing more than the beginning stages of alzheimers…

I never could quite believe that the American people voted for Reagan, which is exactly the same way I felt when they voted for Bush…

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By DS Ellis, May 4, 2007 at 8:03 am Link to this comment

Is it me, or does it seem strange that the GOP candidates praise Reagan, his policies, his strength, his resolve and intelligence but think it’s a bad idea to federal fund medical research that could, one day, eliminate the disease that took their idol from them?  Maybe when one of them, or their loved ones, gets Parkinson’s or Alzheimers, they’ll reconsider.

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By cann4ing, May 4, 2007 at 7:47 am Link to this comment

Interesting that, following this ten-candidate, non-debate, none of the pundits stepped forward to suggest excluding some candidates from future debates so as to allow more time for so-called “serious candidates.”  Why should they?  Unlike Kucinich and Gravel, none of the Republi-crook candidates threaten the bottom line of the conglomerated corporate media and military-industrial complex.

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