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Saudi Arabia Calls American Occupation ‘Illegitimate’

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Posted on Mar 29, 2007
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One of Bush’s biggest buddies in the Mideast, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, described the Iraq war as an “illegitimate foreign occupation” while pleading for Arab unity. His remarks came during a summit of the Arab League, which plans to approach Israel with a renewed diplomatic effort.


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The Saudi monarch insisted said the “real blame” for Arab woes lay with squabbling Arab rulers, who could only prevent “foreign powers from drawing the region’s future” if they united.

“In beloved Iraq, blood is flowing between brothers, in the shadow of an illegitimate foreign occupation, and abhorrent sectarianism threatens a civil war,” said the king.

“In wounded Palestine, the mighty people suffer from oppression and occupation,” he said.

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By Pd, April 3, 2007 at 7:46 pm Link to this comment
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TO: Fadel Abdallah,

Historically Speaking, from a Native American Point of View: At some point in time all of earth was occupied by someone else who thought they were never going to see it any other way. Who are you to say that you are the rightful owner of said piece of earth based soley on you having been the last of the occupiers?

TO: white johnny far out,

Sorry but, Star Trek did have earthlings of different skin colors. I was always turned on by Ohura, the beautiful black communications officer. Who was your favorite? Live,long&prosper;

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By Pd, April 3, 2007 at 7:24 pm Link to this comment
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It was up to the UN to sanction any action against Saddam Hussein for violating UN treaties.
Bush and Cheney lead all of us down a path to war in Iraq based on lies just so they could eliminate the enrichment of Koffi Anon’s family in the oil for food debacle, and then enrich themselves at the expense of our American tax $ hard at work being ripped off by Haliburton and Co. in the debacle that we now find ourselves.
I was for the invasion of Iraq until I learned that it was all lies to help get Bush re-elcted in a “wag the dog” style of another PREZ at war, stay the course lie. How many times will we be suckered into someone else’s war in the future? Divide Iraq into the three separate religious regions of Kurdish, Shiite, & Sunni, and then leave them to their own Civil War. When will we grow up and learn from the past mistakes and not repeat them? Never,is the answer I fear the most.

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By Neanderthal75, April 2, 2007 at 1:42 am Link to this comment
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Hello All,

I note the usual radical left re-writing of history and the UN docs, from both the First Gulf War and the Second Gulf War.

The Cessation of Military Action in GW I (Gulf War I) was signed by Saddam Hussein (the legal ruler of Iraq, according to all and sundry) with the United Nations Coalition Forces (Britain and the USA in the lead), in order to save his sorry butt and remain in power.

Part of the language of those documents included NOT violating ANY of the provisions of said treaty.

Guess what people?

Saddam, according to the United Nations, VIOLATED the United Nations treaty some SEVENTEEN TIMES!

Hence, Saddam was in FACT in violation of his treaty obligations.

Part of the language of the original docs ALLOWED for RENEWED MILITARY action against Iraq, should ANY of the required provisions be violated by Iraq.

Since most of you RL folks worship at the altar of the United Nations, get down on your knees and start worshipping now people, because your re-writing of history just ain’t cuttin’ it, when any HONEST person consults the documentation.

Further, in another re-writeof history, you RL’s continually and assiduously avoid any mention that ALL of the major powers of the UN Security Council, CONFIRMED their belief that prior to the invasion of Iraq in GWII, Saddam STILL had WMD’s.

The UN itself actually confirmed (prior to the invasion) that the last verifiable information it had, was that Saddam STILL had WMD’s. Not a single shred of confirmation about ANY destruction of WMD’s by Iraq was to be had and the UN said as much.

Despite this FACTUAL information, you anti-Bush/anti-US RL’s STILL continue to lie about what happened and are aided and abetted by the “mainstream” media.

The sole brightside to any of your rantings, is that when the Jihadists hit us again, many of you will be living in the cities that will be hit. A positive influence on the gene pool will take place.

Perhaps after that horrific devastation (in which many innocent and honest people will die, right along side you dishonest haters), most Americans will STOP listening to your hate and lies and actually look at the FACTS of each situation.

I urge as many RL’s as possible to head to New York City, moving there WILL help the country in the long run.

Since most of you have a French attitude toward foreign affairs, allow me to wish you “bon chance.”

Cheers.

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By Kol Klink, March 30, 2007 at 5:05 pm Link to this comment
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King Abdullah knows very well that Bushco violated the UN charter when the US invaded Iraq in 2003. Once the UN charter was violated any and all subsequent actions by the US in Iraq are illegal, including the occupation.
                              King Abdullah is watching the US hand Iraq to the Sunnis and realizes that Saudia Arabia will be forced to deal with a closely allied and powerful Iran/Iraq when the US is gone from Iraq, which will probably be sooner than most now realize.

King Abdullah is under tremendous pressure from his own Sunni population to do something about the sectarian slaughter of the Sunni in Iraq which is being facilitated by the puppet shia regime that the US put in place.

FDR made a deal with the Saudis long ago to provide protection, security and stability for Saudia Arabia and the mid east IF the Saudis would sell oil ONLY for dollars and no other currency. Bushco has now destabilized the region. So, why should King Abdullah feel obligated to stick with the FDR deal? Why should the king watch and say or do nothing while the moronic neo cons destabilize the mid east? King Abdullah in his address put the US and Israel on notice that we are now on our own.                         
King Abdullah recently hosted Mr Putin in Saudia Arabia. What do you suppose they were discussing?

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By Federer, March 30, 2007 at 12:30 pm Link to this comment
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“A star-studded international cast of former top-ranking diplomats and government leaders said they were “convinced there exists now a major opportunity to reach a comprehensive Arab-Israeli settlement.” But the International Crisis Group (ICG) stressed that the opportunity is not “open-ended” and that the status quo cannot be maintained indefinitely. “If the current chance for a breakthrough is not grasped over the next few months—with the government of Israel and the U.S. having the most critical role in this respect—there is a real possibility that support for a two-state solution among Palestinians and in the wider Arab world would disappear, with all the renewed tensions this is bound to generate.”
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=37100

ICG: “there is currently greater consensus than ever on the need for an endgame-first approach, and on the necessary contours of a political settlement”...“But the international community needs to provide as much clarity and detail as possible upfront on what the contents of a final agreement might look like—including on the issues of boundaries (based on the 1967 line with appropriate territory swaps), refugees and the status of Jerusalem—in order.”
http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=4284&l=1
http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=4388&l=1

The ICG board also urged the easing of the financial boycott of the new Palestinian national unity government. It called in particular for the international community to engage the new Palestinian unity government. “Any attempt to boycott, undermine or marginalise the government will hamper efforts to reach a cease-fire and to promote a political settlement…In conversations with senior Hamas leaders, (the ICG delegation) found important movement on issues critical for advancement of the peace process: commitment to a reciprocal, comprehensive cease-fire, agreement that establishing a state within the 1967 borders is the common Palestinian objective; acceptance of President (Mahmoud) Abbas as the sole, empowered negotiator with Israel; and a pledge to abide by any agreement that has been democratically ratified by proper Palestinian institutions,” it said, adding that any clarification of these positions should be obtained through “dialogue with the government.” In an earlier statement, the ICG noted: “Far more than Fatah, Hamas has proved a disciplined adherent to the ceasefire, and Israeli military officers readily credit this for the sharp decline in violence.”
http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=4677&l=1

Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud: “By ignoring realistic peace offers, Israel was subjecting not only the region but itself to dangers with unpredictable repercussions.” He said Israel should accept or reject this final offer. “What we have the power to do in the Arab world, we think we have done.” “So now it is up to the other side because if you want peace, it is not enough for one side only to want it. Both sides must want it equally.” “If Israel refuses, that means it doesn’t want peace and it places everything back into the hands of fate. They will be putting their future not in the hands of the peacemakers but in the hands of the lords of war.” He dismissed any further diplomatic overtures towards Israel. “It has never been proven that reaching out to Israel achieves anything.” “Other Arab countries have recognised Israel and what has that achieved? “The largest Arab country, Egypt, recognised Israel and what was the result? Not one iota of change happened in the attitude of Israel towards peace.”

Mahmoud President Abbas said: “This initiative simply says to Israel ‘leave the occupied territories and you will live in a sea of peace that begins in Nouakchott and ends in Indonesia’.” “I reiterate the sincerity of the Palestinian will in extending the hand of peace to the Israeli people…We should not waste more chances in the history of this long and painful cause.”

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By felicity, March 30, 2007 at 12:25 pm Link to this comment
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Did the Iraqis, MOST Iraqis really invite us to occupy their country?  Maybe Mr. Chalabi, but Iraqis in general?  Amazing.

A united Arab/Middle East scares the holy bejeezis out of little Israel.  (A glance at a map immediately reveals why.)  And a Saudi king making it happen?  Israel - at least up until yesterday - has always considered the Saudis to be allies.  Not to mention the Bush family for whom the Saudi royals have been extended family for years.  Poor George, not only has he screwed us, he’s even managed to screw his own family.

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By FrikkenKids, March 30, 2007 at 11:45 am Link to this comment
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Re: Comment #61280 by Fadel Abdallah

You challenged: “I want some intelligent person to give me just one example of an occupation that is legitimate.”

I’ll answer: The US occupation of Japan after WWII.

Too easy.

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By maire ghad, March 30, 2007 at 8:25 am Link to this comment
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Hegemony - power shift - corporations + dictators
Haliburtion’s mercenaries will legitimately occupy Iraq under the banner of an imposed Pan Arab plan to stabilize the region since they can’t use America anymore.

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By Trigger finger, March 30, 2007 at 8:10 am Link to this comment
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The monarch has it right on this issue.  This is NOT a war in Iraq, this is an occupation of Iraq. I will never support an occupation of any foreign country by another power. I will fight to my death, any army that tries to occupy my country and if I was able to drive them out, I might want to follow them home to continue the fight. I will support our military during this attempted occupation, but I will not support my president in his misguided mess.  We need to stop referring to the occupation of Iraq as a “war”, and call it what it really is. Should we continue to fund a failed occupation?

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By Robert, March 30, 2007 at 4:13 am Link to this comment
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The war is as legitimate as Colin Powels Powerpoint presentation to the United Nations on Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Or in the early summer of the War when everyone was saying we are not going to Occupy Iraq.

Its time for America to show some strength.  Complete withdrawl.  Apologies and billions of dollars in repatriations.

Trial of the Main war criminals Bush and his team at Guantanamo.

Dismantle the IRS and the Federal Reserve.

Mandatory militia training for all the citizens of the US, and get ready to protect from the soon to be onslaught from the last throes of the Usurper Bush.

Peace.

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By Illegitimate Foreign Occupier Deciders, March 30, 2007 at 4:06 am Link to this comment
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Illegitimate Foreign Occupier D E C I D E R S and Killers of US Troops are:

Lamar Alexander (TN)
Saxby Chambliss (GA)
Thad Cochran (MS)
Norm Coleman (MN)
Susan Collins (ME)
John Cornyn (TX)
Larry Craig (ID)
Elizabeth Dole (NC)
Pete Domenici (NM)
Michael Enzi (WY)
Lindsey Graham (SC)
Jim Inhofe (OK)
Mitch McConnell (KY)
Pat Roberts (KS)
Jeff Sessions (AL)
Ted Stevens (AK)
John Sununu (NH)
John Warner (VA)

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 29, 2007 at 8:12 pm Link to this comment
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Well, here we go again! If someone, even if he was a king, states the obvious, then it is news worth reporting as worrisome to America and the West. I want some intelligent person to give me just one example of an occupation that is legitimate.

Any occupation of others’ land is evil through and through, and more so the occupation of Iraq by the U.S. and Palestine by Israel, for reasons that are well-known even to a fifth grader.

Occupation equals state-sponsored terrorism at the highest scale possible, whereby, by the force of arms and military might, a whole nation is terrorized and humiliated on daily basis as long as the occupation lasts. A great deal of blood and treasure is wasted by the occupier and the occupied, resulting in hatred that could last for generations.

In brief, occupation is the ultimate evil, and no ultimate evil is legitimate, except in the mind of someone sired by Satan himself!
 
On another level, I am surprised and impressed by king Abdullah, who I erroneously thought was a low-thinking person, as most kings are. He proved to be courageous at two levels when he called a spade a spade about the occupation of Iraq and Palestine and when he exercised self-criticism about the weakness of the Arabs and Muslims; a situation that invites and encourages predators and exploiters like colonial Zionism and colonial U.S. and Britain.

I hope and pray that something concrete would result from this summit; otherwise it would be another one of these useless meetings that would encourage the enemies to further exploit the weakness of Arabs and Muslims and their infighting to advance their evil designs for the area.

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By johnnyfarout, March 29, 2007 at 7:36 pm Link to this comment
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I love this picture of the Saudi’s. They are not wearing western business suits and it’s not because they can’t find any that they like. Bush was photo’d holding the hand of one of these guys and talking nicey-nicey. These men have no delusions about who westerners are. No matter what color their ties are. I hope the guys we send there can actually converse in French, and not only about wine, because these guys can. But you know I only imagine Bush saying “Duh”, and Cheney snarling something, and Condoleezza acting out her queen of violence fantasies against men. And I do bet these guys deserve it and maybe she should give it to them right on right on… But let’s get real. Conquer the Middle East because we have satellite laser beams, big nuclear weapons, and we consume chillingly bazillions of gallons of oil, and have no “plans” to stop before it’s all gone forever. If we only had 300 good lawyers! Oh , right and 3,000 back up professionals who will do or die…then we can get it done in the green zone. It’s THEM OR US. Plan B: We print all the money in the world and it’s ours. We take it all with us when we blast off into outer space…all the white people! And live in peace and security on space stations around the stupid dumb earth that doesn’t want us because we are too paranoid about our gene purity for the race of mankind to survive in the future unless we fly away in our pale saucers.

white johnny

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By Quy Tran, March 29, 2007 at 7:24 pm Link to this comment
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A biggest slap to the face of wargoers also a biggest show on earth ! We take off our hats ! You speak the voice of fredom.

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By Lee, March 29, 2007 at 6:39 pm Link to this comment
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What the Saudi monarch ment to say is that “George Buish is illegitmate.”

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