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Ear to the Ground

House Will Subpoena Rove and Co.

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Posted on Mar 21, 2007
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After a tug of war over publicity, a congressional judiciary subcommittee voted to summon Karl Rove and other White House adjuncts to testify about their parts in the dismissal of eight U.S. attorneys.  The Bush administration had protested earlier that going public with the case would create a “political spectacle.”


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By voice vote, the House Judiciary subcommittee on commercial and administrative law decided to compel the president’s top aides to testify publicly and under oath about their roles in the firings.

The White House has refused to budge in the controversy, standing by embattled Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and insisting that the firings were appropriate. White House spokesman Tony Snow said that in offering aides to talk to the committees privately, Bush had sought to avoid the ‘‘media spectacle’’ that would result from public hearings with Rove and others at the witness table.

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By Paul Magill (Smith), March 23, 2007 at 12:30 am Link to this comment
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In a local watering hole I go to there is a sign that says, “Free beer tomorrow”. Where it was, “Free country yesterday”, now we have to agree with the old Chambers Brothers song of freedom, “Time has come today!”

People cogitate & assimilate information at different rates; some take a little longer to awaken. Let all patriotic Americans cause a howl of discontent to arise from the unrighteous.

We love the fairness of your blindfold, Liberty, but once in awhile you might need to take a peek around. Were you blindfolded or sleeping? That’s ok. Like a cat you might stumble, but somehow always end up all feet on the ground.

Oh yes, thanks for the codes Lord Byron. I’ll copy them & send ‘em on.

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By Lord Byron, March 22, 2007 at 12:21 pm Link to this comment
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Well Bush doesn’t know anything about the law when he says the firings were “appropriate.”

- 18 U.S.C. 1505 Its illegal to lie to Congress and also to “impede” it in getting information. McNulty told Congress that the While House’s involvement in firing the U.S. attorneys was “minimal,” something the Justice Dept. email messages suggest to be untrue.

-Sarbanes-Oxley reforms, 18 U.S.C. 1512 - applies to anyone who corruptly “obstructs, in fluences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,” including U.S. attorney investigations.

- Witness tampering. 18 U.S.C. 1512 - makes it illegal to intimidate congressional witnesses.

- Firing the attorneys - U.S. attorneys can be fired whenever a president wants, but not, as 1512 puts it, “to corruptly obstruct, influence, or impede an official proceeding.”  And we all know now the case of Carol Lam. Or are truthdig readers ignorant about her case??

George W. Bush, ignorant of the law, flouter of the law, and a president who must be impeached.

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By Carol Wright, March 22, 2007 at 10:56 am Link to this comment
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Thru these long years of President Bush’s years, the wrong doings, the secrecy, and the loyalty scandals-investigations keeps finding Karl Rove’s name involved.
I may not be able to watch what will be-but I am glad Karl Rove by the House will have to answer and be sworn in.
Surely the USA citizens in all parties will see how badly “the trust” and our image has been broken.
Thank Goodness for the internet!
I just hope the parties will make the truth come out and not support more bad decisions.
Peace to you and yours
Health, Healing, and Happiness
God Bless the USA to
help the truth come forth.
Sincerely,
Carol Wright

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By David, March 22, 2007 at 10:02 am Link to this comment
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Nuclear attack on Iran immanent.  Bush will do ANYTHING to protect himself.  ANYTHING.

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By John Putnam, March 22, 2007 at 9:40 am Link to this comment
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We need to throw these creeps out.
Press on!

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By Steve benjamins, March 22, 2007 at 9:00 am Link to this comment
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It is delicious to watch Tony Snow straddle this ever widening pair of horses; ‘the President must be allowed to protect his advisors who did not advise him on this matter’ or we will tell the truth to congress because it’s perjurious not to, so we don’t need silly oaths or transcripts, that make it a show trial. Only the retarded are convinced.

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By Paul Magill (Smith), March 22, 2007 at 2:40 am Link to this comment
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Why not have a transcript of the testimonies? (NOT ‘interviews’) If there is nothing to hide what is the problem with being sworn in? Where are the e-mails between mid-November and early December? (more missing tapes like in the secretive corrupt Nixon Whitehouse?) What percentage of the 3,000 pages of documents turned over are redacted? Why was Gonzales even AG in the first place if he had never tried a case in court? Do the Republicans realize these potential subpoenas are only the tip of a very large iceburg? Do these thugs think they can continue to bully us when they have no credibility left at all & no longer control congress? Isn’t it a sign of character how civil committees have become when someone other than a Republican holds the gavel? When are we going to have an honest evaluation of the many suspect events of 911? When does the investigation begin about the $2.3 Trillion (with a ‘T’) in military materials Rumsfield mentioned was ‘missing’ in an article that came out on 9/10/01 (pretty convenient our eyes were distracted from the ball by the events of the next day isn’t it?)? When will the 30% of supporters Bush still has wake up to the fact they have been duped & raped repeatedly? Why was the guy who bought the WTC, and would have had to pay many billions to have them dismantled, allowed to walk away with a tidy $1.8 billion profit in less than a year? When will all Americans have finally seen these links and realize not only could it happen here, but it did?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/lieofthecentury.html
http://www.conspiracy-times.com/content/view/30/1

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By Arnold, March 21, 2007 at 10:30 pm Link to this comment
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There are two kinds of people in this world: Those that lie and those that don’t - those that will not testify under oath and those who will testify under oath.  So which one are you Karl Rove, Harriet Miers and all you White House perps that know the truth but cannot seem to admit it?  Oh, and like you will really tell Congressional Representatives anything of significance when you are not under oath and there is no consequence for lying or holding back on the true information!

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By Christopher Robin, March 21, 2007 at 8:29 pm Link to this comment
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The White House needs sodium pentothal.

Nurse?

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By Denis O'Mahoney, March 21, 2007 at 8:19 pm Link to this comment
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This “political spectacle” may come late in this administration of thieves and fascists, but “bring it on”!

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By DennisD, March 21, 2007 at 7:43 pm Link to this comment
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Getting anyone in this administration to tell the truth would be a “spectacle. I can’t f**king wait. “Something inviting, something exciting, something for everyone, a comedy tonight”. I might just plug in my television again for this one. Has George said “Bring it on” yet?

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By Truth Be Told, March 21, 2007 at 7:00 pm Link to this comment
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This government belongs to you and me and the rule of law known as The Constitution.

    Sadly there are rogue senators who do not give a damn about the Constitution and a disgraceful media that doesn’t care about The Constitution/seperation of powers.

    I hope and pray for a strong and just presidential candidate that is worthy of representing “We the people” in 2008.

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By Lily Maskew, March 21, 2007 at 5:57 pm Link to this comment
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It seems to me that the ones who are making a “Political Spectacle” are members of the current administration. How does having an official transcript make this process less dignified in general?  Seems like a pretty flimsy excuse, just like most of their excuses.

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By Kol Klink, March 21, 2007 at 5:55 pm Link to this comment
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Can anyone guess who is the most interested spectator to the events swirling around the white house?

My guess is Scooter Libby. By now Mr Libby has to know that Bush/Cheney/Rove and their compatriots screw up everything that they get near and Mr Libby has to be wondering if any of the morons that he worked for will be in office to pardon him from a jail term when he is sentanced.

Could be Mr Libby will decide to start singing to get a suspended sentance without jail time and the subpoenas will be going to Cheney, Rove and Bush.

And dont forget that the FBI has given Mr Jack Abramoff his own office in the FBI building and he continues to sing like a bird!

This affair just might turn out to surpass Watergate. I think we are witnessing the end of the beginning not the beginning of the end. Aint it grand?

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By Christopher Robin, March 21, 2007 at 4:57 pm Link to this comment
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Clean Government is political.

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By Dale Headley, March 21, 2007 at 4:41 pm Link to this comment
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It’s about time!  Karl Rove has been getting away with dirty tricks since his days in Texas.  Perhaps Bush will defy the subpoenas.  Perhaps the courts, all the way up to the Supremes, will back Bush up.  But refusal to testify under oath only stengthens the suspicion that the Bush Administration is seeking to cover up political malfeasance.  One of the reasons that Republicans are joining with Democrats in many cases could be that they see the specter of a Democratic president wielding the power to defy Congress, should the Supreme Court rule in Bush’s favor.  It’s hardly to Republicans’ advantage to give a Hillary Clinton, for instance, an iron fist to hold over their heads, just to support an extremely unpopular, failed president.

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By trantieungoc, March 21, 2007 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment
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He’ll escape this time as an eel from naked hands of legislature. King George has to protect his brain and nobody could touch it.

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By James Yell, March 21, 2007 at 2:17 pm Link to this comment
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Why would we want to give Bush any consideration on this matter of criminality in his administration. He doesn’t have excutive privelege on something that involves his extensive and continued law breaking, laws he swore to up hold when he took office and yet thinks the position of President means the laws don’t apply to him.

He has no plausable deniability in this matter. If he was elected at all it wasn’t for dictator, it was for President. In view of the use of 3rd parties by this President to slander and defame honest people who disagree with him, well he and they can dish it out, now it is time for them to be on the receiving side. Impeach Bush/Cheney

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By dan, March 21, 2007 at 1:41 pm Link to this comment
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Bush still doesn’t get it. He is not in a position to dictate terms to Congress. His arrogance is astonishing.

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By DM, March 21, 2007 at 1:19 pm Link to this comment
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I’m not a Democrat, nor am I a Republican ... in fact I’m not an American ... but as an outside observer it does seem pretty obvious that the Republican commentators objecting to this “political spectacle” over alledged politically motivated firings are many of the same people who loudly created the “political spectacle” of Clinton defending his troubled personal life (which had no bearing on politics or government).

It would seem a little opportunistic and self-serving to anyone with a memory, no?

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By Jack, March 21, 2007 at 12:43 pm Link to this comment
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The power of the subpoena will eventually bring ‘em all down.  Sit back and enjoy the show…!

  Given, the apparent ease whith which most of the Bush cadre have, in the past, had no problem selling-out their country for economic and political gain, they’ll readily sell-out their peers to save their own asses…!  Remember there’s a 1-yr sentence for Contempt of Congress…!

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By Margaret Currey, March 21, 2007 at 12:17 pm Link to this comment
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It is now out that Clinton replaced all 93 attorneys at the beginning of his tenure, but Bush and Company is doing this two years before the end of his term in office, should he not have done this two years ago?

Makes one wonder if it is because of embarassment on the part of the administration?  Is it because corruption was uncovered that the administration wants to keep covered, whatever the outcome this Gonzales should have chosen his words more carefully, if they did their jobs and were let go is one thing, but to add lies to a firing can make a person mad.

If Carl Rove and Ms Miers have nothing to hide, why is Bushie Boy so stuck on I will not move an inch and Gonzales is doing a heck of a job.  Looks that maybe there is a coverup.

I say this Bush Administration is the most secerative than any in past memory.  The war was going to happen when Bush took office, and if you have a war all kinds of things are in the name of protect the country, and in the process take away liberties and in the end once gone never to be replaced. 

Democracy is on the way out, IMPEACH IMPEACH AND IMPEACH BUSH, CHANEY AND RICE.

Margaret from Vancouver, Washington

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By _ugly, March 21, 2007 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment
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will this all lead to the fall of the white house?

http://crookedhideout.com

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By John in Bear, March 21, 2007 at 11:38 am Link to this comment
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Even if no laws have been broken (they have); The AG lied about his involment before Congress and on TV weeks ago.  Executive privelige is one thing.  Hiding behind it to protect lying government officials and to hide the clear abuse of the public trust is quite another.  Richard Nixon tried this tactice when Watergate first went public and it ultimately led to his undoing.  We should be so lucky this time.  Draw up the Articles of Impeachment.  Let’s roll.

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By RunsWithScissors, March 21, 2007 at 11:07 am Link to this comment
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I for one, sincerely hope that Mr. Bush is right (for once) and this becomes one of the largest “political spectacles” in history. It’s about time there was some accountability required of the most immoral, incompetent, and arrogant administrations during my 54 years on this planet. Let the subpoenas fly & the investigations begin; quickly followed by resignations/firings and impeachment. Hopefully, Chaney will have the big one before W gets tossed.

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