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Posted on Mar 15, 2007
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Looks like Hillary Clinton’s plan for withdrawing American troops from Iraq comes with a caveat.  Clinton says that, if she becomes commander in chief, she would maintain a whittled-down U.S. military presence in Iraq—a strategy she believes would jibe with the Democrats’ proposed resolution to bring our forces home by March 31, 2008. 

The candidate’s statement fulfills the prediction made by Pentagon insider Karen Kwiatkowski in the Truthdig interview:

“Yeah, we are not leaving these bases, and a Democratic president, I don’t care who they are, will keep those bases there. They will justify them and they will use them and we love that.”

Barack Obama has also said he would leave a smaller force in Iraq.


New York Times:

She said in the interview that there were “remaining vital national security interests in Iraq” that would require a continuing deployment of American troops.

The United States’ security would be undermined if parts of Iraq turned into a failed state “that serves as a petri dish for insurgents and Al Qaeda,” she said. “It is right in the heart of the oil region,” she said. “It is directly in opposition to our interests, to the interests of regimes, to Israel’s interests.”

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By bberger, March 16, 2007 at 6:01 pm Link to this comment
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FYI -for those ignorant commenters- We ended the war in Korea but we kept troops there for many years- oops-maybe Hillary isn’t the evil -duh-

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By Lord Byron, March 16, 2007 at 5:05 pm Link to this comment
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I am not a contrarian at heart, Frank, so don’t presume to know or think that. It does not matter to me if Al Quaida were to actually control parts of Iraq. Iraq must determine its own fate and the United States has no business being there militarily, just like it has no business being in South Korea. The invasion of Iraq was an international crime and those candidates and elected representatives that choose to support a U.S. military presence in Iraq are culpable in this fiasco and deserve nothing but scorn.

<Lord Byron, Al Quaida may have had little to do with Iraq before the US invasion, but they are very relevant there now, as they are not only present there, but are looking to establish their own Islamic republic there from which to operate.  It is perfectly justified to talk about Al Quaida ion Iraq now, because it will be their country if the Iraqi government falls.

The fact that you favor Kucinish suggests you are a contrarian at heart, and looking for perpetual contrarian to vote for.>

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By bberger, March 16, 2007 at 4:52 pm Link to this comment
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Do mostly uneducated and ignorant people respond to these blogs? 
Duh- we ended the war in Korea but we left troops there for many years- there is no flip flopping- only an intelligent, well thought through plan- Can’t we stop hurting each other- Are you guys listening to Rush and Coulter?  Can’t understand why the anger is directed at someone who has spent her entire life in public service and is known to be one of the hardest working Senators in Congress?  The anger belongs to this administration and it is foolish and harmful to our country to speak this way- This is very serious business- we need grown-ups -we need to work together and wait for the debates- Please- don’t respond from your gut like W-respond with your head and heart-

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By Lou, March 16, 2007 at 12:10 pm Link to this comment
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Someone please release us from the stench of The Bushes and The Clintons. This is supposed to be a democracy, not the revolving door of a Monarchy.
H. Clinton is as much a liar as Dubya Bush.
This is progress?
There’s no one else I’d vote for except Dennis “The Menace” Kucinich, my first choice - but in this non-democracy of ours, I’ll never get that privilege.
So my next best - Chuck Hagel for President.

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By JKoch, March 16, 2007 at 8:48 am Link to this comment
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The Hillary method: waffle.  Take any topic, find out the opposing views, and than adopt a nebulous criss-cross mix and sweeten it with buttery and gooey rhetoric that borrows from both sides.  She probably figures that some troops will be in Iraq through 2008, no matter what.  So she will state some “principled” view on how this should be or what goals should be obtained.  Come 2008, she will say that W mismanaged, but also exculpate herself from any meltdown that might ensue a precipitous pullout.  In the unlikely case that a quick pullout succeeds and Iraq ends up none the worse, her gamble is that voters will cease to care anyway.

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By JohnDWoodSr, March 16, 2007 at 7:31 am Link to this comment
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Hillary Clinton almost makes George Bush seem like a dovish wimp. Can we afford to have a Democratic neocon in the White House? I don’t think so!

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By Expat, March 16, 2007 at 5:52 am Link to this comment
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Oh my god, we have another Joseph Lieberman Democrat!
Sounds like a Republicrat to me!
Get her gone quick!
Where the hell are the passionate Democrats…..oh yeah, I forgot they are all running scared of the neo-cons.
Hillary has already sold out to get the POWER!!!
We are lost before we begin.  Forget 2008, it’s already over.

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By Frank, March 16, 2007 at 4:13 am Link to this comment
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Lord Byron, Al Quaida may have had little to do with Iraq before the US invasion, but they are very relevant there now, as they are not only present there, but are looking to establish their own Islamic republic there from which to operate.  It is perfectly justified to talk about Al Quaida ion Iraq now, because it will be their country if the Iraqi government falls.

The fact that you favor Kucinish suggests you are a contrarian at heart, and looking for perpetual contrarian to vote for.

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By Pete Campbell, March 16, 2007 at 12:24 am Link to this comment
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I am glad Hillary as spoken in such detail about her plans for Iraq.  It’s about time the other canidates did the same.  Obama glosses over Iraq and have not provided an actual “workable” exit strategy; although he also will leave troops in Iraq if he is elected President.

John Edwards doesn’t have a clue.  Why he is even running for President belies me.  And I believe the country feels the same way, which is why his polling numbers are so consistently low. 

Good work Hillary.  Keep talking about this.  Nobody ever said it was going to be easy.

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By Dennis D, March 15, 2007 at 10:02 pm Link to this comment
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Hillary, like most politicians constantly violates one of Kimo’s Hawaiian Rules - “Tell the truth it’s easier to remember”.
And this is supposed to be someone we’d vote for to run our country! Maybe someone else’s, not mine.

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By Glaswegian, March 15, 2007 at 3:11 pm Link to this comment
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There’s a case for bringing home the troops who did this - to charge them with murder, if for nothing else:

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/atrocities/2007/0310ussoldiers.htm

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By Jon B, March 15, 2007 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment
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She’s a hawk. She is advised by hawks. We all know what and how Bush’s hawkish advisors had done. I won’t be surprised at all if she launch war on Iran.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Senator_Clinton_wont_run_out_war_0203.html

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By Lance, March 15, 2007 at 2:12 pm Link to this comment
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The despicable, calculating, triangulating, unprincipled, Sen. Clinton’s only virtue is that she is unelectable.

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By Lord Byron, March 15, 2007 at 12:49 pm Link to this comment
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I love it. Iraq had nothing to do with Al Queda and yet politicans keep giving these terrorists media publicity and use it as justification to continue with a U.S. military presence in Iraq. It never ends. We will be in Iraq forever just like in South Korea. The military industrial complex expands forever swallowing every humanist and advocate for peace in its path. Clinton is such a mainstream Republican, it just hurts. I literally cannot stand this woman. I’m close to hating her. I want her to step down as a Presidential candidate and learn to carve herself out from the rest of the pack by advocating stances that truly challenge the status-quo and not just puppet Republican policies. She’s no Democrat and I’m aghast how the media at large keep giving her such publicity almost guaranteeing that she will become the Democratic nominee for President. I hope she somehow stumbles and falls somewhere between now and the end of the year. I can barely stomach Obama but my fav, Kucinich, won’t even get the kind of media coverage the rest of these candidates do because he is challenging the status-quo.

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By Sheldon, March 15, 2007 at 12:21 pm Link to this comment
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Hillary Clinton is two-faced on this issue. She will end the war AND she will maintain a U.S. military presence in Iraq.And this is the person who thinks she’s the most qualified in the land to be commander-in-chief?

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By Quy Tran, March 15, 2007 at 11:39 am Link to this comment
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Too late Mrs. Clinton. You’re one of Bush’s invasion supporter, aren’t you ?

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