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Having Your Bomb and Eating It TooPosted on Mar 2, 2007
For the first time in two decades, the United States will produce a new design of the hydrogen bomb. The weapon is meant to ease insecurities caused by the aging of America’s nuclear arsenal but probably will be a mortal blow to the administration’s credibility as it attempts to deter other countries from building nuclear weapons.
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By Fred, March 5, 2007 at 8:10 am # Bottom line: The world no longer trusts anything coming out of the US. The US is controlled by Vested interests, MONEY! It is not controlled by it’s people and their good will! The US does not graciously spread “democracy” about the world, it extends it’s economic influence and creates markets for itself, out of vested self interest - this is better known as Imperialism. US media is the complicit mouthpiece doing the bidding of the Vested interest spin masters. They have done an admirable job of mesmerizing the US citizen into believing they are always the good guys. The only way out of this mess is to stop allowing vested interest to pay for election campaigns and thus stop owning politicians.
By Christopher Robin, March 4, 2007 at 12:21 pm # “This Bizarro world of Bush & Co must be brought to a swift and final end. You weenie Democrats need to not only put impeachment on the table, but you need to serve it up promptly and decisively before these bellicose morons destroy us all. ” -TexasGreen I agree, except the Democratic party is disorganized as usual, and can’t coalesce around a common objective. This is due in part, because of the divide between the Wall Street dems “New Democrats” who continue to provide cover/aid for the establishment’s policies. There is talk of a break and progressive democrats (old democrats) and the top down power structure, money dems. This might be difficult development in the short term, but better in the long term. If we want a Democratic party with a backbone and to counter the insane policies of the right. The progressives are talking of breaking with their leadership by offering amendments on to budget bills that would force representatives to vote one way or the other. Example: Funding for the Iraq war. They are considering adding a amendment to only provide funding for the purposes of bringing the troops home. Forcing a vote on such a proposal will smoke out the enablers from those who wish a policy change. We’ll see how Reid tries to paper over that one! Maybe if the party split?, it would remove the cover and utility from the “New dems” using the progressive base as a cover. These “New Democrats” would then have to stand alone with their mealy mouthed, spineless half-measured policies alone. Not automatically inherit a mantle of a party that was once the champion of the average person.
By Lefty, March 4, 2007 at 11:27 am # I think “weapons of mass destruction” and “mushroom cloud” followed by the Downing Street Memo, already dealt a mortal blow to the veracity of anything Bush or Cheney will ever utter for the rest of their regrettable, stinking lives.
By Dale Headley, March 4, 2007 at 9:19 am # The world (other than America) is not stupid. It sees the hideous hypocrisy this reveals in all it starkness.
By Fadel Abdallah, March 3, 2007 at 6:51 pm # “...but probably will be a mortal blow to the administration’s credibility as it attempts to deter other countries from building nuclear weapons.”
By TexasGreen, March 3, 2007 at 3:10 pm # If it wasn’t before (and there is a lot of evidence to that effect) it is now obvious that the leaders of this country have gone completely insane. We already have enough atomic weaponry to destroy the planet many times over. How is it possible that anyone in their right mind could suggest that we need more? This Bizarro world of Bush & Co must be brought to a swift and final end. You weenie Democrats need to not only put impeachment on the table, but you need to serve it up promptly and decisively before these bellicose morons destroy us all. The fact is the world needs to dismantle the “nukular” arsenal that already exists, not start adding newer and scarier weapons to it. Just when you think these crazies cannot possibly top what they’ve already done, they manage to outdo themselves. I truly believe that BushCo’s greatest strength is their capacity to astonish. No one can ever quite comprehend just how arrogant and unhinged they really are.
By NathanHale, March 3, 2007 at 2:51 pm # Better to build (replace) state of the art steel mills, chip plants and other strategic industries which were sold and sent overseas. The return on the money spent would be much greater and would do more to enhance national security.
By vet240, March 3, 2007 at 1:28 pm # This is yet another example of the insanity of the Military/Industrial complex. The world has proven many times that possessing Nuclear weapons has little or no effect on international relations. North Vietnam fought on even with the very real threat of Nuclear intervention by the U.S. (the issue was on Nixons table). Iraqi insurgents continue to defy our intervention in their internal affairs. There is no doubt in my mind that the Iraqis will settle their affairs eventually without our input, and it doesn’t matter how long we stay. How can they continue to fight knowing we possess both Strategic and field tactical weapons? America cannot afford these useless weapons. The argument that they deter some unknown enemy from conducting a Nuclear attack on us doesn’t wash either. You simple have to look at our import sources to realize that an attack on us would have devastating results on the entire worlds economy, including the attackers economy. In 2005 our GDP was valued at 12.5 Trillion dollars, our imports were valued at over 1.5 Trillion dollars. China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Japan, Germany and Mexico among our most prolific suppliers. I can’t think of any country (other than our own) that has launched a pre-emptive attack in recent history. Somehow, we the people have to force a re-direction of our nations policies toward the real dangers we face such as Global warming and population control. Building bombs won’t save us from these issues. Pouring our limited wealth into weapons systems reduces our ability to answer real time emergencies such as disaster assistance (Katrina), health care, and the environment. It can stop one or two ways. We can demand a change in priorities by forcing Congress to listen to us instead of the weapons manufacturors and weapons scientists now, or we can set back and simply wait for the axe to fall. I see a picture in the not-to-distant future of weapons factories and storage facilities slowly rusting over because our government (we the people), simply have run our to funds to make or maintain any more (remember The Soviet Union?). If I were a foreigner who hated America I would rub my hands with glee when I heard they (the US) was spending their wealth on huge weapons systems instead of on smaller, cheaper, more agile defense systems that I might have to face. I would imagine a foreign fighter against the “Satan Ameerica”, believes he can win with a $300 AK47, some recycled high explosives (probably manufactured in America), and a couple of old cell phones.
By james dilligaf, March 3, 2007 at 1:23 pm # But we’ll never have the balls to use it, even if we’re bombed first. Thank you PC assholes.
By Carl Baydala, March 3, 2007 at 12:14 pm # Leadership by example. That’s the way to go. Build a bigger and better nuclear weapon than the other guys. This is the same mentality that drives the business community as well. Bigger and bigger salaries for the executives, while at the same time drive the poor masses into the poor house or make them slaves. Some people are better than others and deserve more. This attitude shows up in all policy as one can easily see. But, anyway if they spent as much money upgrading the political/electoral system maybe I would be impressed. I suppose it is a matter of priorities isn’t it?
By felicity, March 3, 2007 at 11:37 am # Chances are that between now and Jan ‘09, Bush etal will manage to “award” big-time those who put them in office. The military/industrial complex, which includes big energy, will profit beyond their wildest dreams. Looking back, history (if history still exists) will see a common thread woven throughout this administration’s rule - foreign and domestic policies designed and carried out with the goal of enriching a select group of people. Certainly not unusual as histories of other countries go - millenia of kings, emperors, satraps, czars and overlords milking their countries and populace to enrich themselves. Further assaults on our treasure could be stopped, or at least slowed down, but apparently those who could do so - members of Congress and the Executive Branch - are part of the pillaging crowd.
By John Weinell, March 3, 2007 at 11:05 am # Re “U.S. to develop new hydrogen bomb,” March 1: Absolute insanity. Our madman president threatens war with Iran over their nuclear program and then authorizes the secret expenditure of tens of billions of dollars to build a new generation of hydrogen bombs. The Natural Resources Defense Counsel estimates the U.S. currently has 5,735 active nuclear warheads. Is the ability to render this planet lifeless (except for cockroaches) somehow insufficient deterrence? Congress must stop funding for this reckless and unnecessary overkill. Congress should also impeach the madman before he decides to preemptively nuke some innocent nation.
By Quy Tran, March 3, 2007 at 9:10 am # How could we deter other countries not to produce nuclear weapons ? This is a biggest “BLOW JOB” diplomatic program Bush/Cheney/Rice are doing. They only know how to satisfy themselves by masturbing together and left the whole civilized world behind. This is also a push North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, India.....trying harder in producing weapons mass destruction. This criminal administration is also hypocritical
By Hank Van den Berg, March 3, 2007 at 7:57 am # Clearly, nothing has changed in the administration. Intimidate, threaten, ostinately continue with aggressive in-your-face policies even when they do not work, conduct hollow public relations claiming that is not what you are doing, then intimidate some more, threaten some more, obstinately continue with the same in-your-face policies…
By James Yell, March 3, 2007 at 6:54 am # Of course, it is hypocritical that we try to block other nations from having nuclear weapons, at the same time we have an administration that has started a preemptive attack on a nation innocent of any real threat to this country. And, in any case, there is an old Greek Story which covers the dynamics of the nuclear problem. It is the story of Pandora, she took the lid off the box that held all the worlds sorrows and once that was done they could not be put back into the box. It is too clear to anyone who isn’t lying that our interests in not allowing the spread of nuclear weapons (about as effective as our war on drugs)is bound up with our own wish(I only say “our” on the fiction that we elected Bush/Cheney to be goons in chief) to be the only Bully on the block.
By Bert, March 3, 2007 at 6:49 am # I count myself an independent, because I believe that the basic concepts and principles inherent to the idea of independence are fundamentally sound. If you have the capacity as a person to live largely as the farmers that helped found our country used to do, produce your own food, build and maintain your own shelter in the manner of your choosing, not beholden to any financial institution, liable for your own mistakes(Darwin’s a Real Bastard, that way), and independent, meaning ‘not reliant’ on external support of any kind, then you have truly realized what can only be described as the core of the pioneers’ dream, namely to tell(politely or otherwise) various and sundry would-be august bodies to take their high-handed social manipuleering crap and stuff it where the sun does not shine. I think the federal budget should be slashed to the bone, multitudinous little programs permanently abolished, the rights of property owners amended and improved, deficit spending should be outlawed, our borders lawfully and effectively enforced, and other countries who would willingly and perpetually parasite themselves off of the United States to kindly join the above-mentioned parties in their stuffing endeavors. We, The People, are not required to continually and perpetually sacrifice both blood and treasure for those who are ungrateful, to say the least, and those that’ve ingratiated themselves deeply into our governmental system for the sake of financial and political gain should probably consider themselves to be ‘on official notice’ that we’re tired of their shit, and people serving two countries should likewise be re-evaluating their
By Bert, March 3, 2007 at 6:45 am # Ok, censorship is rearing its’ ugly head, so this just became a 2-parter: Part I No nukes. That’s what’s been said for the last 20-30 years, but the Strangelovian horsecrap that’s gone on around the world, not just in our country, but around the world, needs to be taken issue with. War really doesn’t decide who’s right, it just decides who’s left walking around to argue about it. Nuclear war is ‘fast, fast results’, same-day ‘victory’, but it doesn’t really solve much. 9/11, no matter whodunit, was the seminal event that precipitated the War On Terror, and the cynical mind is quick to point out what amounts to deliberate negligence here and there, as well as the consequent screwups, maladministration/poor oversight of things like our borders, you’d have thought that would have been a no-brainer, and since then the war machine’s been running full-out...but ultimately to what end? So that our country can continue to play Global Cop, to intervene in multitudinous mini-wars in deliberate half-assed fashion, for all perpetuity? I object to it, and I think they really really need a top-to-bottom rethink of all matters pertaining to what we call ‘foreign policy’, sometimes the best leadership is providing people the opportunity to solve their own G.D. problems. And, if you wanna get biblical about it, here’s a well-known phrase, ‘give a man a fish, he eats today, teach him how to fish, you’ll never see your boat again’. Well, something like that, but the point is, people that are independent and largely self-sufficient have no need of ‘foreign aid’(there’s a topic you could go on and on about), and become resourceful in and of themselves as(another phrase) ‘necessity is the mother of invention’. And, if not the mother, at least a close relative. Part II follows....
By Frank, March 3, 2007 at 5:28 am # American nukes were the worlds #1 source of stability in the west for 50 years, the primary deterrant against Soviet expansion, and the primary reason we had no third World War. The US has never used nuclear weapons in over 50 years since the atomic strike on Japan, used to decisively END the last world war. Most democratic nations of the world, particularly NATO members, understand they are safer with a nuclear-armed America. Building new nukes to replace aging old ones is not proliferation. It is simply maintaining the long-existing existing capability, i.e. the status quo.
By davr, March 3, 2007 at 4:52 am # This would be funny if it weren’t so tragically dangerous. I’m a Chemist and Chemical Engineer. I worked in the defense industry for 30 years. I speak from some experience. The Hydrogen bomb is a couple of orders of magnitude more powerful than the Atomic bomb. The Hydrogen bomb has to be triggered with an Atomic bomb. The A bomb is the blasting cap After the first Hydrogen bomb was exploded the scientists at the test site told the Army and anyone else who would listen that a Hydrogen bomb explosion could possibly ignite the earths atmosphere causing a catastrophic holocaust that could engulf the entire earth. One Hydrogen bomb could completely destroy a country the size of Israel. The mechanics of an H bomb explosion are not precisely understood and are unpredictable. We are dealing with a very dangerous wild card here and those persons who are responsible for this project are dangerous people.
By Bert, March 3, 2007 at 2:31 am # One of the great and oft-repeated phrases of the 70’s and 80’s was ‘no nukes’. Frankly, nuclear energy does have the potential to benefit us, The Cold War, the great contest between the then-USSR and the west, revolved in part around nuclear power, and nuclear weapons. It was declared ‘over’, but, apparently, here we go again. As the worlds’ population expands towards an expected 9 billion people in 2020-2040, somewhere in there, and more and more people want energy and resources, competition for all of this will become more and more fierce, and probably violent.
By Matia, March 2, 2007 at 11:27 pm # This president has openly referred to nuclear weapons as weapons of mass murder. And he clearly wants to use them on Iran. If he does, he will be a mass murderer, by his own admission. Does anyone out there listen to what these creatures say? Does anyone connect the dots? Not a difficult task in this respect. If you refer to them this way, and you use them, you are a criminal of the worst kind. Development of any nuclear weapons is a direct violation of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which this country is a signatory to, and thus that treaty is one of our laws, as defined in our Constitution. I quote… This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; AND ALL TREATIES MADE, OR WHICH SHALL BE MADE, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. Violation of the NNPT is an impeachable offense. Violating it, in the building of new nuclear bombs is immoral, unethical, and insane...even if your only goal is profit, which is really what it’s all about. This country’s power brokers are doing backflips about the manufactured possibility that Iran may someday build a single weapon, and yet we have psychopathic loonies like Bush and Cheney just itching to use the thousands of nukes we have on a hair trigger, wherever and whenever they choose, the Constitution and this nation’s responsibilities to it’s treaty obligations be damned. Curiously, by the language of the NNPT, Iran is in compliance, and the US, in pursuing new weapons systems, and in not reducing the existing stockpiles of thousands of warheads, is in direct violation of said treaty. Minor point relative to Bushworld, but notable...Iran is in compliance, the United States is not. Who is it that should be punished in this regard? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not Iran....
By RAE, March 2, 2007 at 11:01 pm # There’s just no end to the insanity, is there? If I were an American citizen I would notify the administration that I will discontinue submitting my taxes until they cease and desist from WASTING my hard earned dollars on such stupidity. Yup… they’d try to haul my ass off to jail but I’d be long gone before they’d get there. If they ever do develop such a weapon I hope they test it on the maniacs on the “Nuclear Weapons Council, which consists of officials from the Defense Department and the National Nuclear Security Administration.”
By Christopher Robin, March 2, 2007 at 7:43 pm # What are we borrowing from the North Korean school of diplomacy? Add Your Comment |
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