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Cheney’s Twisted Logic

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Posted on Mar 2, 2007
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Vice President Dick Cheney has once again confused supporting the troops with supporting a surge of troops into Iraq. “Anyone can say they support the troops ... . But the proof will come when it’s time to provide the money and the support,” Cheney said, referring to a bill that would fund the escalation.

If his administration’s record is any indication, keeping the troops far away from the maelstrom of Iraq is the best support they could possibly hope for.

AP:

While noting that the House already had passed a nonbinding resolution voicing opposition to Bush’s Iraq policy, Cheney said that “very soon both houses of Congress will have to vote on a piece of legislation that is binding.”

The legislation would, among other things, help pay for the additional 21,500 troops Bush is sending to Iraq.

“I sincerely hope the discussion this time will be about winning in Iraq, not about posturing on Capitol Hill. Anyone can say they support the troops, and we should take them at their word. But the proof will come when it’s time to provide the money and the support,” Cheney said. “We expect the House and the Senate to meet those needs on time and in full.”

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By D. Thoits, March 3, 2007 at 2:46 pm #
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Cheney is a low life coward, who is so slimey that he asked for 5 draft deferments in the Viet war and got them.  What a scum bag hypocrite, jail the bastard along with cowardly George for treason and war crimes!!

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By LANCE, March 3, 2007 at 8:10 am #
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Mark my words the Bush Company is fudging the numbers in Iraq.

They are fudging the books on the money and they are faking the KIAs and the collateral damage.

Dead Americans are more likely 12,000.

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By chuck i, March 3, 2007 at 8:08 am #
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cheney is evil. he is darth vadar. bush is in a galaxy far away. they both have their head in the sand. they choose not to see the DAILY BLOODSHED IN IRAQ!! they want more troops to die for what victory? sadam is dead & there is a new administration. follow the brits & start a timetable for withdrawl of our troops NOW!

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By Fadel Abdallah, March 3, 2007 at 1:07 am #
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To call Cheny a “man of twisted logic” is indeed an overstatement and overrating. He is a devilish beast devoid of any logic at all. Logic is a characteristic of human beings, but to equate an evil beast with logic is a contradiction. Let’s call him the evil beast that he is.

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By Gary Maxwell, March 2, 2007 at 12:50 pm #
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Our troops defeated the Iraqi military in record time.

Our troops captured Saddam.

Iraq had elections to set up a new government.

The new Iraq court executed Saddam.

Looks to me like we already won.  It is time to bring our troops home in victory.

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By felicity, March 2, 2007 at 12:18 pm #
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In 1973 Cheney said, “...the presidency is like one of those giant medicine balls.  If you get a hold of it, what you do is you keep pushing that ball and you never let the other team push back.” That little gem pretty well explains Cheney. 

Not to mention that he’s mouthing the old, AND discredited Domino Theory - different cast, set and staging, same scrip.  That lovely theory put us in Korea and Vietnam. (Dulles was going around at the time saying that if Korea/Nam fell billions of Chinese communists would storm the world, armed to the teeth and out for blood.) So for 40 years we “fought” a myth.  Are we going to spend 40 years “fighting” this new myth?  This time it’ll probably bankrupt us.

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By peter staff, March 2, 2007 at 11:12 am #
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I DO BELIEVE THAT CHENEY’S HEART PROBLEMS HAS CUT THE BLOOD FLOW TO HIS BRAIN. HE CAN NOT SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. ANY KIND OF VICTORY IN IRAQ IS IMPOSSIBLE. THE ONLY WAY IS VIETNAM TYPE PULL OUT . THIS WILL STOP THE BLEEDING OF AMERICANS BOTH IN BLOOD AN WEALTH.
g.w. WANTED HIS EGO WAR LONG BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED. WHY SHOULD OUR NATION PAY THE DEBT FOR HIS LEGACY. HIS LEGACY BE DAMNED. HE IS A FAILURE AS PRESIDENT. AND HE WILL ALLOW FUTHER GENERATION CLEAN UP HIS MESS. AND HE WIL PUT THE BLAME FOR HIS FAILURE ON THEM.

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By mite, March 2, 2007 at 10:57 am #
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If censorship is not put upon this comment i direct the people to view a couple of DVD’s available on google.com.

Freedomtofascism and Terrorstorm:

Cheney with his hegelian doctrine is going to create another >911< >Pearl Harbor< as described in the CFR’s New American Century report of 2000.

This individual (Cheney) and others want another act of aggression to pro-long world war for decades. You watch people another act of murder and gencide will be happening soon by these mad men.

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By Dale Headley, March 2, 2007 at 10:34 am #
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For Dick Cheney, the war in Iraq has been about one thing: his Halliburton stock, which is now worth multi-millions of dollars more than it was before the war.  And Deadeye Dick knows that the longer he keeps American soldiers sacrificing in Iraq; and the longer he can drain the U.S. treasury to support it; the richer he will become.

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By Quy Tran, March 2, 2007 at 10:26 am #
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It looks very funny when a monkey tries to be human beings. Cheney’s star and that of Rumsfeld were already fading away long time ago.

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By John Motisi, March 2, 2007 at 9:16 am #
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Words direct from the mouth of a walking dushbag. The inconveniet truth is that Iraq is front for the war on terror because shrub and the dick made it so. He’s a total waste of skin.

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By Gandersen, March 2, 2007 at 8:33 am #
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Unfortunately we are at a point of no return.

If the right thing to do is to bring the troops home now, the republicans will not do it because it would hurt the Republican Party and the up coming presidential election.

If the right thing to do is to stay and fight, the democrats will not support it because it will hurt the Democratic Party and their upcoming presidential election.

This is pure politics and Democracy at its worst.

Our men and women are dying for a political argument, not some lofty goal of national security or liberty.

People think those who say we are “wasting” American lives are “un American”

But, let’s look at jut a few facts:

*After 3,000+ dead Americans, are we safer (NO)
*After 3,000+ dead Americans, is the Middle East more or less stable(Less?)
*After 3,000+ dead Americans is the massive amount money we are spending on this war helping (NO)
*After 3,000 dead Americans are the terrorists discouraged and on the run (NO)
*After 3,000+ dead Americans are the American people more united or divided (Divided)
*After 3,000+ dead Americans is the war “winnable” (NO)

In Fact:
AFTER 3000+ DEAD AMERICANS (+ COUNTLESS OTHER COALATION FORCES) ARE THE BUSH CRONIES, OIL COMPANIES AND DEFENSE CONTRACTORS GETTING WEALTHY BYOND BELIEF.....HELL YES.

When people say our troops are dying as heroes for a good cause, they are wrong.  Our Troops are dying as pawns on the republican/democratic chess board. 

I support our troops but do not support how they are being manipulated and treated.

If we leave we loose, If we stay we can’t win.  Our politicians have put us in this mess and it will scar America and our “young” country for generations to come.

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By Christopher Robin, March 2, 2007 at 8:31 am #
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Let’s not even tie the word logic to Cheney. It’s just an intellectual red herring. He is “twisted” with the rational of nine year old bully.

At least for public purposes.

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By Steve Hammons, March 2, 2007 at 7:42 am #
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Cheney continues to create false propagada and feeble psychological manipulations to keep the occupation of Iraq going indefinitely.

The invasion of Iraq, led by Cheney and his neocon warmongers and war-profiteer cronies, is the centerpiece of their efforts to control the region and control American society.

An attack on Iran or another “Pearl Harbor” terror attack within the US could also be coming with similar goals.

Legal consequences for Cheney and his associates are closing in on them. Hopefully, responsible authorities will implement appropriate actions to limit Cheney and his cronies soon.

For more on these topics, the article referenced below may be of interest:

“Going in circles: Vietnam, Iraq, calls for impeachment”

By Steve Hammons
Columnist, PopulistAmerica.com
Populist Party of America
January 14, 2007

http://www.populistamerica.com/going_in_circles_vietna m_iraq_calls_for_impeachment

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By Mark Dolce, March 2, 2007 at 7:04 am #
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Same old spin and tactics that have taken the United States into war - a war designed to last forever because it is a war on “terror.” How can you have a war on terror? Just like we have a war on drugs? It’s a war that never ends and will never end - that’s the way it is designed. We Americans let ourselves to be duped by the appointment of George W. Bush as president and he hand picked Dick Cheney to be VP and the installment of this adminstration was off and running. We and our leaders in Congress allowed ourselves to be duped into war to fight “terror” and “terrorists” and now the terrosits are fighting us in Afghanistan. We are fighting terrorist in a place half way around the world. This is not terror. It’s our army chasing down individual groups and factions of armed extremists where they are camped out. Terror exists as a pshycological state in the mind - not in Afghanistan. Terror has no boundaries or country. It does not have a uniform or flag. It does not have a political capital or any strategic location or tactical operations base. It is an idea. You cannot kill and idea. You cannot fight ideas with billions of dollars in weapons and manpower. The idea exists is in the mind. It’s a war on bad guys and bad thoughts and a war to make us “safer” - another psychological term made to keep us either in “fear” or out of “fear” - take your pick.  Americans voted in November for a “change.” It is obviously going to take more than this vote to make that change. The amount of deciet and manipulation and outright lies to the American people have gone on so long we have complacently accepted our fate to fight a war that has no end and worse - it is a pre-emptive war. We can attack anyone anywhere we feel necessary at anytime. Where are the palets of cash? What happenend to the money? Bundles of money goes to Iraq and what comes back? Palets of flagged draped bodies - that we as the public are not allowed to see as ordered by the US government. The troops and the debate over the funding of the troops ‘is’ political posturing. What stupid blind senseless people we are for thinking the troops will or would actually be withdrawn from Iraq when we have had four years to build army bases in Iraq for our US troops to occupy. The United States is never going to leave Iraq - even if we stop fighting the Sunni or Shiite factions - or if they stop fighting themselves - the United States is not leaving Iraq - even if it falls into multiple countries and states. The United States is not going to leave Iraq because of oil. And we will never put enough sanctions on Iran for enriching uranium to stop it from selling or profiting from the sale of their oil becuse China is their biggest buyer - unless we want to go to war with China (pssst...don’t tell Bush and Cheney). The Shiite uprising was facilitated by the invasion of Iraq. Now, Shiites allover the Middle East are wanting more power in other countries - like Saudi Arabia. The United States will make sure the Sunni will reign and maintain a power balance in Iraq - this is what we need to reduce our US troop level for - to get out of a civil war between people who have been fighting for 1200 years. The Saudi’s are paranoid the Shiite revolition is going to enter their country. The Saudi government is building a wall/fence from the Persian Gulf to the Mediterranean Sea to keep Shiites out from coming into their country as a result of this uprising and overspill of armed Shiites (armed in the mind with revolution) in Iraq. Let the Sunni and Shiite fight till they drop - our US troops can stand by and watch and play referee but not go house to house, building to building or town to town to try and fight Sunni or Shiite “terrorists.” We had our Civil War - let them have theirs.

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