you’re under arrest for war crimes, boy bush. your perversions will no longer poison the lives of decent beings.
Oh, and go to hell.

The trials at the end of WWII established that those implementing “crimes against humanity” would not be excused their crimes because they were ordered to commit them by people higher on the pecking order.

It is appalling that we are even having to have this discussion. I find that Bushies in my own family can not and will not defend G.W. & Cheney, but will lamely declare “I believe they are good and well meaning”. Where are the examples of this? George goes and visits the troops that have been wounded by his incompetence, they say. Well I say we look at George’s visits to anyone and the real observation should be “this man will do anything for a photo op” and base the observation on the fact that nothing he has done so far is good for anyone but hugely wealthy individuals and multi-national corporations.

(shaking my head)

The U.S. has become the “terrorist” already to the global community. This is only the beginning of the backlash. And more violence.

Doesn’t anyone see that? How “tactful” and “diplomatic” do we have to be with our own government representatives to show them that there is more fire in the back yard than on the other side of the world?

History repeatedly tells us that torture very seldom results in facts. History further tell us that torture, is used mostly to establish the pre-concieved notions of the torturer. Torture through-out history has been used most often to intimidate the masses or to justify some-ones leadership position. We learned that during the Salem witch trials in our own country in the 18th century.

I am sure our Government, through it’s experience during WWII and Vietnam could tell us that our own military personal, when subjected to torture, would tell the person applying the torture anything they wanted to hear. Anyone who says they didn’t give in to the torture are either lying or they were’nt put to any strenous torture.

I understand the Military Code of Conduct grew out of the fact that our military, when captured in the Korean conflict, did what comes naturally to any prisoner. The prisoner sings any tune the torturer wants to hear.

It is unimaginable that I would live to see the day our Government would resort to such barbaric tactics. It is unimaginable that America would stand indicted by the International community for such crimes. I am ashamed of what we’ve allowed to be done in our silence. Bush/Cheney should be held accountable as should other Government officials who approved this madness.

It is sickening to sit and watch Mr. Gonzales explaining to a Congressional Committee how our methods are different therefore legal. All the while he has that little smirk on his face. Probably because he already knows those sitting on the panel haven’t got the guts to say no.

Liberty is about individual rights. Give up those rights (even for your enemies) to fight for security, and you end up having neither.

The rationalization for our use of torture puts us on the same level as those we so arrogantly call terrorists.

The whole EU should work hard to show its sovereignty and never let the CIA act freely as usual. CIA’s recent imperialist and depraved jobs in Europe were enough for EU awake. Shame !