Follow-up to comment #40119:

Does anyone out there now about the CFR, Trilaterial Commission, Bilderberg Group, Kissinger is a member. Traitors- Bushs 1 & 2, LBJ and Nixion’s adviser? Can we say
Kissinger? Now he not only is involved in the Iraq group (council) he is now going to advise the Catholic Pope- hmmm. `Catholic Register Nov. 26, 2006’ Kissinger To Serve As Papal Adviser:

Is Religion and State different or the same?

Mind Control and Brainwashing, a fact by our rulers for century’s.

Good points addressed by Sam Harris ~An Atheists Manifesto~ along with Richard Dawkins `The God Delusion.

Do any of you want to explore some other ideas? Or is the world of the last 2000 years just fine with you. I look at this world and I see more evil then ever before. What if this religion is a lie?
http://www.articbeacon.com `Confession No. 19: We Return To Main Question- Who Are Real Spiritual Controllers Of The New World Order and U.S. Government’

rule by secrecy by Jim Marrs see: Video.Google.com

“Bloggers should check the facts first before spreading their ignorance.”

So shouldn’t religious zealots.

But, by definition, religion solely relies on interpretations on two thousand year old documents that have gone through multiple translations before King James got around to “Authorizing” them.

By definition, religion discounts and ignores any and all scientific data that goes against their “belief” in how things are or should be.

Someone should go around putting Cs in front of those Hs.

These guys sound like the Muslim nuts that run Iran.

i am sorry, the facts are worse. they are rapists. information would rid them of new victims each generation. i cannot divulge my name, what these religious believers did to me has come under the statute of limitations of the country i have also been born because of rape, and there is no hope for bettering.

Are these the same people who say ALL recreational sex (as opposed to “procreational”) is bad—even sex between married people? (Not just between those who are married to OTHER people…)

The New York Times Sunday magazine had a long piece about that movement some months back. The point these groups make is that if you get it on with your husband or wife because you’re randy, or because you like doing it with the person you married, THAT’S WRONG! They say it doesn’t treat sex like the “sacrament” it is, if it’s something you do for fun. It should always be regarded as something serious, that could result in the formation of a non-abortable bub, so don’t get busy lightly. Therefore, they say (not me, by goddess!) that contraception cheapens sex.

I look forward to seeing a member of one of these groups being named to head some federal birth control agency soon, What—you say he already has? Shoulda seen that coming…

Actually, these mindless and stone age groups are HARMFUL to this civilized world. Don’t they have better things to do?

Birth control is harmful?

So is never teaching adolescents anything about sex and/or contraception because it’s supposedly something private that only married adults do. In the same way that not teaching your children about alcohol may actually encourage underage drinking (because forbidding it makes it seem more exciting and rebellious), not teaching them about sex may actually encourage them to become sexually active.

Birth control is harmful?

And HIV isn’t?  Forcing a child to raise a child isn’t? Compelling a family to have more children than they can reasonably support isn’t? Overpopulation isn’t?

Birth control is harmful?

So is blind, unquestioning, sheeplike acceptance of and obedience to anything and everything that your religious and/or political leaders tell you because it’s easier than thinking for yourself.

Just want to express my appreciation for the sassy editor’s note: my best laugh this week. Thanks.

These are the same people who don’t want to pay for children born out of wedlock.  At least make it easy to get contraception. Good God. It’s only common sense. This is a power thing, pure and simple.

We had the same type of thing in the Twin Cities MN during election season of 2004. Just disgusting. Anti gay crap and billboards that actually read “Don’t Vote”. How would you like to be a minority and walk out of your house every day and see that sign facing you down. A little intimidating?

Background on the url

OVER POPULATION IS HARMFUL—NOT BIRTH CONTROL!

why are they so afraid of sex?  if they have some problems, maybe they should try viagra…oh, i guess that is bad too as it promotes more sex on demand.  i went to the website, these people have lost it. sex is good, sex is fun, sex doesn’t always need to be done just for the creation of humans.  we have enough humans and these extra humans only contribute to more pollution and drain on world resources.  i say, have less kids and more sex….who’s with me?

Here’s a quote from Mr. Ruben Obregon’s website:
“The founders of No Room for Contraception are Catholic, however this is not a Catholic organization. The purpose and goal of No Room for Contraception is to expose the harms that artificial contraception brings to marriage and society, and this goal does not require belief in any religious tradition. The Catholic Church has been the only major Christian religion to firmly oppose artificial contraception. Her many documents clearly and prophetically explain this teaching. Because of Her firm leadership against the use of chemical contraception, No Room for Contraception has links to the major Catholic Church documents on this topic, and draws heavily from the works of Catholic theologians and scholars.”

Clearly, Mr. Obregon’s organization toes the Catholic line and promotes the Catholic agenda.  In a way, these people have much in common with the Taliban; indeed, extremist Muslims and extremist Christians have much in common.  If you’d like to live in a Taliban-run society, just keep listening to Mr. Obregon. 

By the way, Mr. Ruben Obregon sounds like someone from Mexico.  If people in Mexico used birth control, would they need to be coming here for work because their own society can’t support the numbers of people they’ve created?  If Catholic domination works, why are conditions so bad in Mexico, Mr. Obregon, that so many of your countrymen must emigrate here?

“Bloggers should check the facts first before spreading their ignorance.  After all, they should have e-mailed us here at NRFC to get the facts.. ” -Comment #39988 by Ruben on 11/28 at 2:00 pm

Special interest groups should check THEIR facts before spreading their moronic messages.

While I agree that some of the ramifications and side effects of certain contraception are scary…the alternatives are worse.

It truly is one of the most appallingly stupid ideals to argue for MORE population growth. Regardless of your position (abstinence or just get pregnant) the result will be more population growth, more unwanted children, more abortions (while these are still legal), more illegal abortions (picture coat hangers, once it is illegal), more std’s (no condoms), less resources for already stretched family services budgets, and more.

Perhaps you should be pushing for safer contraception. Perhaps you should be THINKING before speaking.

B

http://b-political.blogspot.com/

We should start an ad campaign called

PROMOTE JOYFUL SEX

Notice the website listed on the billboard?  It’s for RespectLifeTulsa.org .  This is not the same website or group as the one you list as being the “parent” organization.

The BirthControlisHarmful.com website is run by the secular group No Room for Contraception.  It is not associated with the billboards placed around Tulsa by the Diocese of Tulsa.

NRFC liked the concept so is launching a secular version, separate and distinct. 

Bloggers should check the facts first before spreading their ignorance.  After all, they should have e-mailed us here at NRFC to get the facts..

Ruben Obregon
President,
The No Room for Contraception Campaign
http://www.NoRoomforContraception.com