Birth control would peacefully solve the border and poverty problems, but would ruin the fun of pedophile priests who can no longer molest white and black American altar boys without lawsuits and even jail.  Closing the border might force abstinence on priests!  Amen to that!

CindyLyn, the Vatican is surrounded by walls.  I believe they have a curfew too.  You’re kicked out when it’s closing time.

The Vatican is stating there policy to combat the inroads evangelicals have made in South and Central America.  By saying this they seem sympathetic while many evangelicals do not because they oppose open borders.

>>>> I think if the Vatican continues voicing their opinion on the illegal immigration matter then they may risk losing their tax exemption. If the U.S. government had any common sense (which isn’t much as of late) then they would politely tell the powers that be at the Vatican that if they go down this route their precious 501C3 tax exemption status may disappear. <<<<

Excellent idea. All religions should pay their fair share of taxes. In fact I wouldn’t complain if religions had to pay extra high taxes.

>>>I am Catholic (not practicing as of late) and I can’t believe the Vatican is involving itself in the illegal immigration debate. Who are they to say what countries should and shouldn’t enforce border/port security?! <<<<

They are human beings who have a perfect right to state their views on issues of the day.  Further, they are right, telling people where to live is immoral. We should all have the right to live where we want and fences are a stupid idea.

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1. I doubt the Vatican gets any tax considerations from the U.S. government.
2.  Man in question is a Cardinal, not the Pope

3.  The Catholic Church and any church ought to tend to its matters of faith and leave matters of the state to the state.  Particularly, the Catholic Church has no moral right to cast stones when it, itself, is so morally bankrupt.  Didn’t the leader of the club one time say something to that effect, you damn hypocrites?

Ummm…am I going to be the only one to point out the obvious error in this argument—the Berlin wall was built by an authoritarian government to keep people IN, the US isn’t building a fence along Mexico to keep US Citizens from leaving the country.  This comparison is not only ridiculous, it trivializes The Berlin Wall, and its role in shaping the Cold War.

The Vatican builds emotional walls as well, separating whole communities. Walls of silence, protecting child sex abusers. We can not look up to the Vatican, nor the Bush administration. we have to look within ourselves and trust our own God _given powers to change society for the betterment of every soul on earth, not just the “chosen” few.

Isn’t the vatican surrounded by walls?

Damn how I HATE IT when I have to agree with “the Vatican” even if we have completely different reasons to support the same opinion!

I think if the Vatican continues voicing their opinion on the illegal immigration matter then they may risk losing their tax exemption. If the U.S. government had any common sense (which isn’t much as of late) then they would politely tell the powers that be at the Vatican that if they go down this route their precious 501C3 tax exemption status may disappear.
I am Catholic (not practicing as of late) and I can’t believe the Vatican is involving itself in the illegal immigration debate. Who are they to say what countries should and shouldn’t enforce border/port security?!

Mexico is a nation of catholics. Vatican’s statement is therefore questionable at best.

The border fence is absurd. Yet, the only real reason the Vatican opposes it is that they wish an influx of traditional Mexican Catholics into the US, who by in large follow without question Papal dictates concerning birth control, abortion and homosexuality. A far easier solution is a $50,000 fine levied for every illegal anyone employs - this includes fines for those lazy ass yuppies that can’t even do yard work on their tiny one acre Mac-mansions.

Obviously, the cardinal has never been a skilled middle aged male trying to suppoort his family and put his kids thru college, who is unemployed/underemployed because van loads of illegal workers are showing up to do his job. these illegals arent bad people, on the contrary, they are mostly hard working law abiding people. but the US economy cant continue to absorb large numbers of immigrant workers unless the plan is for all the high skilled low income Americans to move to Mexico and look for work there.

On moral grounds the pope is correct.  We need less fences, not more. We allegedly defeated fascism but it is still live and well in many peoples hearts.  There is a need to solve economic and social problems in peaceful ways so that the greatest number of people benefit.

People are not happy to leave their homes as a general rule so that the forces of push and pull have to be very strong. The so called immigration problem can be mostly solved by making the people of central America well off.

In fact, most social problems can be solved by reducing inequality and ending poverty.

Fight against capitalism!