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Jesus Camp Shuts Down

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Posted on Nov 10, 2006

The camp depicted in the documentary “Jesus Camp” is set to close due to the backlash generated by scenes depicting, among other things, prayers for President Bush and young children encouraged to speak in tongues.


Seattle Times:

The summer camp featured in the documentary “Jesus Camp,” which includes scenes with disgraced preacher Ted Haggard, will shut down for at least several years because of negative reaction sparked by the film, according to the camp’s director.

“Right now we’re just not a safe ministry,” Becky Fischer, the fiery Pentecostal pastor featured in “Jesus Camp,” said Tuesday.

The documentary, which hit select U.S. theaters during the summer, portrays Fischer, 55, as drill instructor to a group of young evangelical children steeling themselves for spiritual and political warfare.

Led by Fischer, the children pray in tongues, as is common in charismatic strains of Pentecostalism; tearfully beg God to end abortion; and bless President Bush at a weeklong camp in Devils Lake, N.D.

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By purplewolf, June 8, 2007 at 3:28 pm Link to this comment

the family that prays together is brainwashing the children. the biggest threat to the world is organized religion. to the christians who complain they are being picked on, you should be ashamed of yourselves. your religious leaders broke most of the ten commandments when they stole this country from the native people of this country and you have the nerve to complain. go back to Europe and spout your book of heresay. the bible is the most widely read and most misunderstood book ever. it should be banned on the amount of violence it contains.yes I have read the bible and taken theology classes in college. you need to look at the bible with an open mind and not believe what you are told in the church, if you were honest with yourself you would put as much distance as possible from this destructive, incest laden, tome of which people claim is the word of God. If this is so I am glad I don’t follow the path of a mass murderer who destroys anything that happens to displease him at the current moment. Talk about being raised in fear. This is never a good way to live, in constant fear of damnation and destruction if you happen to do something that displeses God.I have studied and been a part of several different groups of christians and they all hate the other groups. most recent religious meetings-Jehovah’s Witnesses

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By Bukko in Australia, November 12, 2006 at 4:50 pm Link to this comment
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So Concerned Mom, you think Christians are in the minority? Let me ask you this: How many Christian presidents has the United States had vs. the number of athiest ones? What holidays are celebrated more in the public arena of the U.S., Christmas and Easter or Rosh Hashana and Diwali? (Bonus points to you if you even know what those are.) What is the percentage of Americans who declare themselves to be Christians vs. the percentage in the population who are Muslims, Jews, Hindus or Buddhists?

And you say you’re a MINORITY? It’s the same “pity poor me” drivel I heard from Bill O"Reilly and other right-wingers before I left the United States. I still get it from my mom, how Christians are just picked upon and oppressed left and right. You know why your cult leaders are saying that? To whip you into a frenzy to fight back against people who have other faiths or who have none. “You’re oppressing us? Well, we’re going to oppress you right back!” It’s bogus, but you believe it, and vote for politicians who promise to “protect religious freedom.” What that means is code for NOT taking away the tax-exempt status of churches that openly advocate for one particular political faction, in this case the Karl Rove right.

I used to have high respect for religious people. That was before evangelical Protestants began assassinating abortion clinic workers. That was before the Catholic Church was revealed to be a haven of child molesters. That was before Muslims started strapping explosives and nails to their bodies and blowing themselves up at weddings. That was before Israeli Jews began adopting the ghetto tactics of the Nazis. Now I’m disgusted with ALL religions! When someone starts telling me about their “faith,” I ask them “Who does your God tell you to kill?”

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By R. A. Earl, November 12, 2006 at 12:15 am Link to this comment
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Concerned mom wrote “I pray for our governing body everyday.  I suppose that puts me in the wrong.”

No “mom”... not wrong… just STUPID. Open your bloody eyes… LOOK AT YOUR GOVERNING BODY!

Do you really think your prayers are doing any good? If you do, then there’s no hope for your recovery… you’re too far gone already.

Look at it this way. If everything’s “God’s will” don’t you think it’s just a little bit arrogant of you to EXPECT HIM TO CHANGE HIS PLANS BECAUSE YOU ASK HIM TO?  Who the hell do you religious wingnuts think you are? Just because you get to vote here on earth doesn’t mean you have any say in heaven! Jeez what are you using for brains?

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By Bukko in Australia, November 10, 2006 at 2:54 pm Link to this comment
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What, they’re embarrassed by how they were portrayed in the flick? Did the harpie who oversees this Rapture madrassa see the film and decide it was like looking in a mirror and seeing the face of a crack whore for Jesus looking back?

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By concerned mom, November 10, 2006 at 1:36 pm Link to this comment
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I think it’s a shame for everyone to knock what was going on there.  These kids were on fire for God, and so because it makes people uncomfortable then it is mocked and critcized.  Religious beliefs run differant and are the life blood of this country.  It’s ok to knock Christianity, but we dare not speak against any other religion or non-belief??  Why is this fair? Being a christian in today’s society makes you a minority; why judge one person on the religion as a whole?  Just because I believe in God and I attend church does not mean that the public form of christianity speaks for me.  I have friends of all faiths, and I NEVER put them down for their beliefs, but I am often questioned about my own.
Since when did it become evil to pray for our president?  I pray for our governing body everyday.  I suppose that puts me in the wrong.
I know what I believe and I will stand for it, just like I expect anyone else to.  What happens in the end is only what matters.

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By Palema, November 10, 2006 at 12:57 pm Link to this comment
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B,

I agree with much of what you say, but want to add or elaborate.

Most people who are politically active for whatever cause are probably motivated at least in part by their ideals, be they religious or secular, and that’s not the problem.

I think individuals must act according to their consciences, however formed.  Jimmy Carter, for example, was strongly led by his religious beliefs. He didn’t push his religion per se on anyone.

I understand the freedom from taxation as keeping religion free of governmental influence and that’s all right.

But organized religious groups—the minute they advocate for a political issue or candidate, they should lose their tax exempt status from that point onward, whether it’s a governing church body taking a position, or a pastor/minister etc. exhorting from the pulpit. Bam! no more tax free.

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By R. A. Earl, November 10, 2006 at 12:01 pm Link to this comment
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“Right now we’re just not a safe ministry,” Becky Fischer, the fiery Pentecostal pastor featured in “Jesus Camp,” said Tuesday.

Sorry, Rev… your “ministry” was NEVER SAFE. Your avowed mission was to use fiction, lies, half-truth, guilt, hype and brainwashing to pervert vulnerable young minds to your way of viewing things (I was going to say “thinking” but thinking has nothing to do with the manure in your spreader.)

In schools they teach youngsters how to avoid STDs… they should also teach how to avoid being used and abused by the likes of you. Jesus would be APPALLED!

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By C Quil, November 10, 2006 at 11:54 am Link to this comment
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Hey lady! Listen up! You never were a “safe ministry”. Get some help and leave the minds of young children ALONE.

Can’t these people be charged with child abuse?

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By joe, November 10, 2006 at 10:29 am Link to this comment
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Thank God for that!!!!

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By B, November 10, 2006 at 7:19 am Link to this comment
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I’m absolutely disgusted with organized religion.
I cannot see how the faithful can lend their faith to such evils. I further believe freedom of religion should offer some freedom FROM religion to those not practicing the religions shoved down our throats.

Did the founding fathers give tongue in cheek freedom of religion? Did they plan to have the powerful religions constantly thrusting their ideals into public life? Into others private lives? I doubt it.

I respect religion in the individual but abhor it in the organizational. Religion has NO place in government. Religion should be taxed as are we all (tax breaks for religion is a government subsidy of religion and I DO NOT want my tax dollars subsidizing political actions against MY own beliefs).

I would expect religion to be more realistic in their approaches. Wouldn’t you think religion would be against torture? genocide? mass pollution leading to cancer epidemics? Aren’t these right to life? For an actual walking talking feeling human? Or are they only concerned for unborn fetuses and other lumps of cells? AND isn’t it morally wrong to blind eye all the other evils in favor of but one?

We haven’t even touched upon other sins…bearing false witness and greed and ....

It is time to end the hypocracy. It is time to end the lies. It is time to take the big steps to secure the future of OUR RIGHTS! Our constitution! Our government! and most of all our people!

/steps off soap box

    B

http://b-political.blogspot.com/

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By Atheista, November 10, 2006 at 6:18 am Link to this comment
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Keep fighting.
http://www.atheistactivist.org

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