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Perle Concedes Iraq Disaster

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Posted on Nov 3, 2006
Richard Perle
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Richard Perle

Richard Perle, one of the chief intellectual architects of the Iraq invasion, told Vanity Fair that had he known in 2003 what he knows now about Bush & Co.‘s incompetence, he would not have advocated an invasion.


Vanity Fair:

... Perle goes so far as to say that, if he had his time over, he would not have advocated an invasion of Iraq: “I think if I had been delphic, and had seen where we are today, and people had said, ‘Should we go into Iraq?,’ I think now I probably would have said, ‘No, let’s consider other strategies for dealing with the thing that concerns us most, which is Saddam supplying weapons of mass destruction to terrorists.’ ... I don’t say that because I no longer believe that Saddam had the capability to produce weapons of mass destruction, or that he was not in contact with terrorists. I believe those two premises were both correct. Could we have managed that threat by means other than a direct military intervention? Well, maybe we could have.”

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By Tim Brown, November 16, 2006 at 11:03 pm Link to this comment
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I served in the United States Air Force with dignity and pride for 20 years. I joined our military at the tail end of vietnam to do my patriotic duty. Some of the conflicts our country has involved itself into have been justified. Vietnam was a politicians war for political gain. Gulf War I of which I am a verteran of as well, was justified and necessary. This mess we have gotten ourselves involved in is just that, “A mess”.. We have allowed idiots such as this intellectual to lead us down a very dangerous path with no thought about those he has given the authority to do so. Simply saying I am sorry does not erase the embarassment this country and it’s people have suffered and will have many years to repair. It does not replace the lost limbs, eyes, hearing or emotional and mental distress created to people of this country and the country of Iraq and surrounding region. We can only hope that the rest of the world can believe that we the people as a whole look for the betterment of another country and most of us respect others and wish to work with them to make this world a better place to live in and we do not represent idiots such as this spinless fish advisor!!!

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By John Deo, November 5, 2006 at 8:10 pm Link to this comment
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Many of us will soon realize the wisdom of these words…

Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.—Mark Twain, “The Mysterious Stranger” (1910)

sleep well.

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By E Austin, November 5, 2006 at 8:03 pm Link to this comment
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To the previous comment by G. Anderson..

Did you ever think to mention the 655000+ dead iraqis?

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By ourtee, November 5, 2006 at 3:32 pm Link to this comment
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Perle’s intense loyalty to Israel is the sole reason he and all the so-called neocons pushed Bush to carry out the Israel plan for the mideast, formulated years ago by the same persons now controling Bush. Congress is also captive to Israel through their pacs which threaten defeat for anyone in Congress not voting as they want.

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By G. Anderson, November 5, 2006 at 10:53 am Link to this comment
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The words seem to come easily now, many years later. Now that reality is unspinable.

It’s so easy to sit in your arm chair and make great fantastic theories about the world and the politics of others. It was easy because there was never any risk to you, never any consequences to you from your grandiose and deluded views of the world.

Other peoples children did the dying, and thousands were maimed because your mind was full of conjecture, and reification.

Of the 153,000 service men and women who have filed for disablity claims as a result of this war, you are not one of them. You will get up in the morning, walk out the door on what I suppose, are two good legs. Serve yourself lunch with two good arms, hands full of fingers, and evacuate your wastes not from a bag, but a bladder and a real rectum.

How are your words now supposed to make it ok?
It’s like Hitler saying, “I’m sorry”. And once again, it’s so safe to do, in a nice white shirt, tie, and shined shoes.

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By Vern Batty, November 5, 2006 at 7:27 am Link to this comment
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The puppet-masters are now biting each other and blaming their Pinocchio who enjoyed the circus so much he became a side show. These arrogant bastards greedily attempted to force America into their vision and have come close to destroying her. He (and the rest of the PNAC NeoCons) should rot in hell for their tinkering.

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By So not impressed, November 5, 2006 at 7:04 am Link to this comment
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Gee, Mr. Perle - we’re all so impressed with your insightful apology about Iraq!

Surely you must be very wise! Therefore your current campaign to have the USA go to war against IRAN must deserve our full support!

(Or at the very least, we can be sure that ISRAEL thinks it deserves our full support!)

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By Disgusted, November 5, 2006 at 6:56 am Link to this comment
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Rat meets corner. Heh-heh.

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By Bukko in Australia, November 5, 2006 at 4:43 am Link to this comment
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I read the excerpt Vanity Fair has put out, and part of me wants to wish a looooong life to all the neo-cons quoted in it. Yes, a nice long life so they can spend a lot of time rotting in jail after their war crimes trials. Which will probably be run by the Chinese after they come to dominate the world folowing the implosion of the United States…

But another part of me wants them to die a quick but painful death—from natural causes, of course. Pancreatic cancer would be appropriate, since they’d be eaten alive by their own bile. I’ve had patients with this, and it’s agonising. It shames me to wish this, but if they all croak, that way they can’t come back to persuade some future Idiot King to kill millions in another war that was designed to avenge the way they blew this one. You know, like what Henry Kissinger did by advising President Cheney. And speaking of people deserving of the afforementioned demise…

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By Nevermind, November 5, 2006 at 3:55 am Link to this comment
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jee ... arent you all being just a little too unfair to Perle and Bush?

what about all of the 2 faced hypocritical Democrats who
voted for Bush’s Phony War?

Do you remember them?
Kerry, Edwards, Hillary, LIEberman, Boxer, Pelosi
Reid etc ...

Doesnt anyone here think they should be locked up
for selling themselves out by Voting for Bush’s War
in order to look good on their resumes and to their constituents?

should they be left off the hook?
arent they are just as culpable?

their votes gave Bush carte blanche to do whatever he wanted ...
to spend however much he wanted ...
to kill how many he wanted ...
to sacrifice as many american soldiers as needed ...
to put the lives of every American on American soil at risk against terrorism

thats what Democrats did for Bush with their votes

none of them take any responsiblility for their votes
they just make up the same type of excuses Perle does

millions of Americans did not believe Saddam had
WMD’s, nor was harboring any terrorists ...

How come the Democrats did?  How come on the one hand Democrats “seemed” to oppose Bush’s war on Iraq,
yet on the other hand they cowardly and unconsciencably voted for it?

not only did Bush and Perle lie and were deceptive,
so did the Democrats who betrayed their Party and Country
by voting for Bush’s Illegal and Phony War On Iraq.

so how about a reality check?

dont just put it all on Perle ...

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By Stanley Freedman, November 4, 2006 at 9:48 pm Link to this comment
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Re comment 36589 Robert.

Wow, Robert, it’s sad you had to come up with the Jewish cabal schtick. And it’s a bit scary too. Get a life.

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By robert puglia, November 4, 2006 at 7:23 pm Link to this comment
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ah, that’s nice- and aren’t you sweet? i’m sure we’re all very touched by this reconsidered sentiment. now; unspend hundreds of billions of dollars, unkill hundreds of thousands of people, unlie to millions more and wipe the murderous smirk off of your posed and poisonous punum, you schtickputz, you wretch, you poser, you dilettante, you fraud. not for nothing do they call it vanity fair.

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By Joe R., November 4, 2006 at 3:28 pm Link to this comment
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This country needs to get rid of lobbyist and think tanks.  They need to elect people who are smart and people who study history.  We also need to stop electing people who belong to political families like the Bush clan.  America isn’t Rome.

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By mrJJ, November 4, 2006 at 2:59 pm Link to this comment
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I guess this is a reunion or something. A real POS squeaks

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003350110

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By William, November 4, 2006 at 2:12 pm Link to this comment
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Richard Perle is a truly bad man, should be locked up and the key thrown away.  Is he not aware that we have the tapes of his ludicrous pronouncements?  He does think we are stupid! 

Intellectual - a person of superior intelligence or enlightenment - does not sound like someone who would instigate death and destruction.

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By Hendrik Van den Berg, November 4, 2006 at 10:24 am Link to this comment
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What is interesting about the Vanity Fair piece is that, despite the alleged self-criticism, the neocons have not really changed at all.  They now conveniently blame Gearge W. for botching the job, but they still just as adamantly argue that their view of the world is still correct.  These people need to be retired from public view so that we can let some sane and competent people try to clean up the mess they have created. 
We cannot conquer the world, and our attempts to use military power to achieve the impossible has now taken away the good reputation and moral high ground that we could have used to at least influence world events.  The quotes in Vanity Fair make it clear that the neocons still do not realize that they completely misunderstand the real world.  Yes, George W. is incompetent.  But the neocons are nothing other than evil, and from the sound of their words quoted in Vanity Fair, they are preparing to mount yet another assault on humanity!

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By Robert, November 4, 2006 at 8:57 am Link to this comment
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“WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LIARS & DAMN LIES ABOUT IRAQ & WMD’S”?

Our current U.S. administration has us in this damn disaster & terrible WAR in Iraq, which is draining America dry for “Israel’s Strategic Objectives.”

Yes, its all for Israel!!! This administration staff & foreign policy team are a gang of liars.

Bush, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the gang of zionist Jews at the Pentagon (Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Eliot Abrams, William Kristol, Douglas Feith, David Wurmser, Ari Fleischer, Scooter Libby, Michael Chertoff & more), deliberately lied to the American people about Iraq & the famous “WMD’s”.

Look at where we are right now. We are in a disaster, chaos, destruction…called the Iraq war.

Just look at the many innocent human lives (>500,000) that have been killed, how many US military deaths, almost 3,000, and over 20,000 injured.

The Iraq war is costing the US taxpayers about $10 billion dollars per MONTH. So far, it has cost us over $350 billion dollars & no close end in sight.

All because of the above mentioned liars & lies.

Where are the WMD’s that no one of them mentions anymore? Why are these liars immune from the outrage of the American people & our lying mainstream US news media.

Where are the liars,zionist jews, of the Pentagon working now? Most of them left the Pentagon and slipped out under the cover of darkness. They have accomplished their main objectives. Which was to send American GI’s to fight in Iraq… and because Iraq’s WMD’s were a threat to Israel.

The liars are now getting richer & many of them hold prestigious jobs & positions while Americans GI’s are getting killed because of the lies from the Pentagon Gang.

We the American people are so gullible and we tend to believe the lies of our public officials. Lets give the liars a taste of their own medicine.

Lets vote the liars out of office and hold the Pentagon gang accountable for their evil deeds & intentions.

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By MARIAM RUSSELL, November 4, 2006 at 6:52 am Link to this comment
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Sort of like the little boy who is not sorry he tortured the cat….but is very sorry he got caught?

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By Lance, November 4, 2006 at 6:50 am Link to this comment
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OK, I really think I’m going to toss lunch.

Read and re-read the letter that PNAC sent to Clinton in 98 -

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

Look at the bottom of the letter first.  Note that Perle was one of the signers.  Along with half the first “W” administration.

Try to find a reference in that letter to Saddam’s link with al Qaeda.

There is none.

Try to find a reference to Saddam’s sponsorship of terrorism of any kind.

(here is none.

Try to find a word of sympathy for the “poor Kurds.”

There is none.

But while you’re reading the letter, be on the lookout for a justification for invading Iraq and deposing Saddam that you’ll never hear fatuous blowhards like Perle mention today:

OIL!!!  OIL!!!  OIL!!!  OIL!!!

Give Perle a gun.  Let him support the troops by sending him to Iraq to be a human target in some other American’s place, and let Perle clean up the mess that HIS policy caused.

Blow it out your ass, Dickie.

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By B, November 4, 2006 at 5:15 am Link to this comment
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*Sigh*

Another failure of our DOJ.

Gross Fraud that led to the deaths of almost 700,000 people (and counting).

THESE men are the traitors. Not the dissenting citizens. They put our soldiers into harm’s way without valid reason (and worse with supression of any opposition to their “reasoning”).

Maybe there is a use for capital punishment….for traitors.

    B

http://b-political.blogspot.com/

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By Kahoneez, November 4, 2006 at 1:32 am Link to this comment
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The architect of Iraq’s killing field is just trying to weasel out of his responsibility for not only the chaos, but the illegal invasion itself.

“If he had know about Bush’s incompetency” what a crock, that’s like saying if I had know my get away driver couldn’t handle a high speed pursuit from the bank, i wouldn’t have hired him.

The occupation to control Iraq’s oil & other resources such as telecommunications, banks which had all their business laws changed by the white house,planned prior to invading ..ain’t going to well.

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By James Hudson, November 3, 2006 at 10:10 pm Link to this comment
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Perle says “I think if I had been delphic, and had seen where we are today, and people had said, ‘Should we go into Iraq?,’ I think now I probably would have said, ‘No…”

Not that it was wrong to go in there in the first place, but if it had turned out the way we wanted then it would be ” See it was the right thing to do…”

A good example of what a self-delusional fool this man is, is presented in his debate with Noam Chomsky. It can be found at: http://www.alternativeradio.org/programs/CHON-PERR001.shtml It is well worth listening to.

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By Tony Russell, November 3, 2006 at 8:14 pm Link to this comment
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His careful rephrasing of the twofold threat posed by Saddam Hussein is a deliberate downscaling of what he and the rest of the administration argued at the time, and even in this carefully modulated version is baloney.

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By Socrates, November 3, 2006 at 8:07 pm Link to this comment
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This is a ridiculous cop-out. It was entirely clear that Bush’s administration was incompetent before 9/11 (for me, the realization came when he nominated Ashcroft for AG). If Perle didn’t realize this, then he either wasn’t paying attention (doubtful), was blinded by his ideology (possible), or is just trying to provide cover fire for his idiotic ideas by blaming those who implemented them (probable).

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By Quy Tran, November 3, 2006 at 8:02 pm Link to this comment
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Mr. Perle,

It was too late to concede Iraq disaster. You’re responsible for this immoral, criminal, illegal invasion to this oil country. Almost 3,000 U.S. troops have been killed and over 600,000 innocent Iraqis slaughtered for what ? For your guys’ blind ambitions. Nobody, yes nobody, will forgive this huge crime and you’re one of chief intellectual architects of invasion plan. Amen !

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By sundog, November 3, 2006 at 7:44 pm Link to this comment
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You’ve got to be kidding me.  This guy doesn’t deserve the time of day.

This guy was supposed to be some big policy guru for the neocons. He was on TV every night as an apologist for the war. Always downplaying every concern against the war or the consequences on going into Iraq.  He was so **** sure of himself and the administration. Anyone who was against this fiasco was “surely foolish or sadly mistaken.”  He was “so” grown up and the rest of us were immature liberal pacifist fools.  What a punch of garbage.

This boy is trying to save his consulting business and savage what is left of neocon philosophy.

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By John Underwood, November 3, 2006 at 7:39 pm Link to this comment
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It’s amazing how quickly the rats abandon the sinking ship. Their policies which they so congradulate themselves with as being brilliant are a huge flop, and Iraq would have been a disaster no matter what policy was followed. The principal policy that has failed is the ‘US power projection and military threat’ policy that’s been used since Reagan and that started with the blow hard windbags against the Panama Canal Treaties in 1979 who couldn’t stand the fact that we lost the Vietnam War. Well, they failed and now we’re probably weaker internationally than we were in 1979.

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By Rodney Matthews, November 3, 2006 at 6:33 pm Link to this comment
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WMD’S or WTF ?  When all is said and done Mr Pearle who cannot be impeached, should be tried for treason and war crimes and sent to Abu Garib prison in Iraq to be tortured along with Bush,Cheney, Rumfsfeld, Rice,
Powell, Wolfowitz, Feith, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, Rove and Bennett only to name a few. That would Texas justice that would satisfy all of us, whose voices have been drowned out by lies and war mongering. It also would go a long way in bringing back America’s credibility.

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By Jackie T. Gabel, November 3, 2006 at 6:15 pm Link to this comment
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one more limited hangout - by the time “al CIA-duh” is finally too hard to keep out of the corporate press, this lot of war mongers will be long gone - but since there is no statute of limitations on treason, they may have to pull a Ken Ley to escape the noose

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By Horrified, November 3, 2006 at 6:09 pm Link to this comment
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Bull. Perle knew perfectly well all along what a piece of crap Bush is. The fact is that the neocons are parasites. They kill one host and then move to the next.

They needed Bush (the only president stupid enough to invade Iraq) to get their wonderful Mideast project of “creative destruction” started. They knew damn well that it would create a mess that the American people would hate.

Now neocons like Perle - having used up and ruined the credibility of Bush and the GOP - are switching their fake allegiance to the Democrats, on the phony premise that Bush mismanaged what surely would have been a glorious enterprise if only done right.

They will keep playing ping-pong between our 2 political parties until the US is exhausted and destroyed, along with every nation in the Middle East except Israel—surely greatly enlarged and enriched in the process.

We, the United States of America, will simply be discarded, like a dead husk, as the glorious Greater Israel emerges from the ashes.

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By harald hardrada, November 3, 2006 at 6:08 pm Link to this comment
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perle’s covering his large backside

he’s thrilled to see how many americans have spilled their blood in furthering his deluded cause—he’s delighted that iraq is falling apart: it’s what he & his ilk wanted but he can’t say that in public

next step for sacrificing american troops: iran

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By Ask the NSA, November 3, 2006 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment
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Nice try Dick…

Sorry, you’ll have to get in line to try to weasel your way out via scapegoating the Bush Administration.

Yeah, it was “incompetence” that caused the disaster that is Iraq, not the infantile, intellectually-bankrupt neocon ideology that advocated the invasion in the first place..

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By Rader Johnson, November 3, 2006 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment
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Well, thanks, Richard Perle, but you are not forgiven, by the way. You are just another RAT trying to leave the sinking ship. Can you spell “McNamara”?

You EARNED your place in history. Now sit on it!

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