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Fact-Checking Condi on Anti-Terror ClaimsPosted on Sep 26, 2006
In an interview with the New York Post’s editorial board today, the secretary of state refuted several of Bill Clinton’s claims about Bush & Co.’s dismal record on terror. But Rice’s refutations fly in the face of the conclusions of the 9/11 Commission. Fact-check it here and here.
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By kevin99999, September 27, 2006 at 7:54 am #
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Having her observed her these few years, I do not put much stock in what she says almost on any subject. She represents the Bush administration well in spreading its disinformation campaign.
Report thisBy patrick, September 27, 2006 at 7:16 am #
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If I remember correctly, the anti-terroism budget was being cut under Ashcroft so they could spend more money in other areas that interest Ashcroft more.
Report thisBy Vito, September 27, 2006 at 6:26 am #
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This type of action proves that the party is more important than the country and people.
These people do, will do and continue to do, what they very well please. It’s all about them.
Report thisBy A. H. Jessup, September 27, 2006 at 6:22 am #
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Follow the money and trace the reins of OPEC for your answers.
Saddam, for example, was an OPEC Bad Boy, unwilling to accept the constraints of his quotas and rocking the boat with unpredictable decisions which would make oil prices and stocks shift unpredictably in response.
This was, to those vested in the situation, terrifying. Hence, he was a terrorist. Simple, in a purblind and idiotic sorta way.
A
Report thisBy diebolddemocracy, September 26, 2006 at 8:55 pm #
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What do they gain? Hmmmm. Let’s see. The viewership of the right is following the administration so blindly that they need not bother pondering the evidence contrary, they just blindly follow. There are so many self-conflicting statements coming out of the white house it is nausiating. They f’d up and are in crisis mode at the Mansion right now. They thought they’d be in and out in Iraq and once that happened, the public support would be so strong for the neo-con PNAC agenda it would leave little room for dissent. All the chips would fall into place, except the biggest chip has fallen the wrong way. It doesn’t matter when a private company who contributed to the bush campaign is running the entire election process. Just wait till Nov when all the polls are showing a dem sweep. The Diebold folks will covertly make the rounds with another “bug fix” in the middle of the night to make sure the computers all spit out narrow republican victories. It’s all a joke now. If we can’t get the voting system right, everything else is pointless.
Report thisBy G. Anderson, September 26, 2006 at 8:01 pm #
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Take a good long look in the mirror Condi, and tell me what you see?
I know what I see, a pointed headed little, bean counter with no experience in the real world, who spent her entire life in the academic world, or in music, but really in your head..
Forget about politics, forget about the intellect, your lack of any feeling, your heartlessness, is what got you where you are now....
It allowed you to make some very cold and calculating decisions, that were as far away from common sense as you could be..and that’s why we’re loosing…
Report thisBy Vito, September 26, 2006 at 6:56 pm #
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Has anyone ever given these people (Rice) a job description.
Report thisBy OCPatriot, September 26, 2006 at 6:23 pm #
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So she lied. They all eventually lie. Even Colin Powell now admits he lied. Come on, readers, stop being victims. They lie. Of course they lie. Truth isn’t important. Only what they think in their head, only what concoctions get brewed in their bunker-like mentality, seem to be “real” to them. So why—why, indeed?—would anyone expect anything else from them? It was convenient to lie about Iraq being connected to Al Qaeda. Bush’s head is so muddled that he probably believes it; Rove likes twisting people’s heads; so does Cheney. By this time they may believe we went to war to stop Al Qaeda in Iraq. But my point is: Who cares? It’s not true and truth IS NOT IMPORTANT TO REPUBLICANS at this point in time. The media by and large aren’t journalists, or keepers of the “truth” flame; they by and large sell advertising and entertain; they have no discipline or sensitivity or even any reason to ask hard questions. Why, oh why, do people always seem to expect it? It’s playing the victim, and that seems to be the role they’ve assigned for yourselves. When they get over it, and strike back to reclaim the electorate by asking the hard questions and not dumbing down statements like “Bush lied today”, or “Bush made wildly conflicting statements today” or “Bush didn’t answer the question he was asked.” When this begins to happen, when influential people say, Stop the madness, they won’t be victims any more. So if you help Republicans in any way, by not voting or by not persuading your friends and family to vote, by not contributing to the Democrats, you’ll be helping to promote a draft, among other things too stupid to mention. So make sure the Democrats win this time around, and don’t jawbone about it or prevaricate or think about how inept or stupid they are, just vote for them. Right now the Democrats are the only force that will balance off the Republican’s march to a totalitarian state; they may become corrupt but it’ll take some time for that to happen.
Report thisBy edg, September 26, 2006 at 5:57 pm #
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If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes accepted as truth. Condi-liar Rice is merely continuing Bush’s Assault on America.
Report thisBy Gary Aguilar, September 26, 2006 at 5:41 pm #
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One thing the right gets that the left still doesn’t is that the truth or falsity of a claim is much less important than how often it is repeated.
For example, the right has, directly and indirectly, kept repeating that Saddam’s Iraq was a cause of terrorism and that our war there lessens risk to Americans. But in fact, under Saddam, the most dangerous terrorists, al Qaeda and bin Laden, were on the run in Iraq; and since America first landed, Iraq has spawned a mushrooming of Middle East terrorism, most recently in Afghanistan.
But so often have the Iraq-terrorism untruths been repeated, especially by the “leftist” media, that most Americans to this day believe that Saddam was an ally and sponsor of bin Laden and al Qaeda and to this day most Americans believe that U.S. troops in Iraq are diminishing the risks of terrorism.
So if I were Condi Rice, I’d be telling the same half truths she’s now telling. Few Americans will remember her lack of candor. Most will cling to the faith that a woman of such accomplishment and grace under fire would never lie to her fellow Americans.
Gary
Report thisBy mill, September 26, 2006 at 4:00 pm #
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they prevaricate (imho) because they know their loyal supporters won’t bother to check independent sources to see that they’re lying, and most major news outlets will only spin the political twist, not check or report that Condi is lying
where’s the obligation, the dedication, the oath of office to the national interest by Condi, Bush, Cheney, etc ....? what is wrong with these people? why don’t they try to get it right, instead of lying?
Report thisBy tomasdelsol, September 26, 2006 at 3:52 pm #
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Unfortunately the Best and the Brightest have been dead or in their dotage for more than twenty years. Just watch Al Haig on wolf blitzer’s show sunday.
Report thisMaybe their strategy is to feign lunacy. That will scare the crap out of the rest of the world. Well not the other crazies. Ahh, it’s a strategy that needs work.
By Donovan, September 26, 2006 at 2:37 pm #
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They lie because it keeps them in power. To repeat Clinton: When people are uncertain, they chose to side with the strong who are wrong, and oppose the weak who are right.
Bush & Co. know how to do one thing, and that’s how to get into power and maintain it.
Report thisBy slg, September 26, 2006 at 1:09 pm #
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I just don’t understand how these supposedly, “best and brightest” can prevaricate when the contrary evidence is so close to hand. What do they gain by lying?
Is it to sow confusion that history, with the right bounce, might favour the liars?
Two more years of this War on Sanity is surely too much for even reasonable people to endure.
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