While the White House agreed to a list of grave breaches of the conventions that could be prosecuted as war crimes, it stipulated that the president could decide on his own what actions might be a lesser breach of the Geneva Conventions and what interrogation techniques he considered permissible.
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Glen Greenwald:
The President had only one objective with these “negotiations,” which was to ensure that the CIA’s torture program could continue, and that goal has been fulfilled in its entirety.
By kevin99999, September 23, 2006 at 8:23 am #
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One does not have to be genius to figure out that the so called compromise bill guts the artical 3 of Geneva Convention. McCain has turned into snake oil salesman by appearing to care about adherence to standards agaisnt torture prescribed in the convention, and it absolves the administration from the past breaches of the law as well.
This has been a joke. I guess times have changed. Now, you have to be for breaking the laws to stand a chance for election.
By MARIAM RUSSELL, September 22, 2006 at 4:20 pm #
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I am asking.....who is to apply this torture....your children. my grand children, your nieces and nephews, mine.......... Are medical schools going to ad a course. Will we have degrees and scholarships.
By Spinoza, September 22, 2006 at 2:40 pm #
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I was listening to the radio, NPR, when coming home from shopping and not paying much attention. The right wing columnist from the NYTimes (David Brock or Brook or something like that) and some “Democrat” was discussing the issues and they were saying how Bush had won and the Democrats were secretly very happy with the “compromise”.
Obviously Fascism is alive and well in this country and the smell of sulphur is very strong.
For those few of you who care please,please help in organizing some opposition to fascism on October 5th.
By Spinoza, September 22, 2006 at 2:38 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
I was listening to the radio, NPR when coming home from shopping and not paying much attention. The right wing columnist from the NYTimes (Brock or Brook or something like that) and some “Democrat” was discussing the issues and they were saying how Bush had won and the Democrats were secretly very happy with the “compromise”.
Obviously Fascism is alive and well in this country and the smell of sulphur is very strong.
For those few of you who care please,please help in organizing some opposition to fascism on October 5th.
By R. A. Earl, September 22, 2006 at 1:53 pm #
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America seems to be everywhere… “rushing in to save people from themselves” whether invited or not. (God help those who have oil under their soil… they’ll be the first to be “helped.")
I ask, who is going to rush in to save AMERICA from itself?
What a crossroads in history! If Americans let their government entrench these clear violations against humanity, who’s going to reverse them? The government has the control of the army… the guns… the police.
NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY AMERICANS REFUSE TO GIVE UP THEIR PERSONAL WEAPONS… THEY’RE GOING TO NEED THEM TO GET THEIR HIJACKED COUNTRY BACK!
By Manny, September 22, 2006 at 12:00 pm #
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Little by little our country is unfolding into a totalitarian state. In time, every American will loss all rights to due process of law. This is just the beginning, of “Big Brother” in rounding up enemies of the state. A goverment that will use torture and deny you evidence in court will eventually use these same tactics on their own citizens. Yes, Mr. G. Bush is at war. He has declared war on our Constitution. What is so painful is the American people appear to be oblivious to the creation of this totalitarian state.
By frank Delgado, September 22, 2006 at 10:22 am #
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The fools don’t know they are sealing their own prison. The govt had designated Padilla an American citizen as a non-combatant. What to stop the govt from abusing our rights in the name of secuity and try us without letting us see evidents. How can one mount a defendse against what one don’t know what to defend against? Where is the outrag, people!
By TruthPlease, September 22, 2006 at 10:14 am #
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Once again, our ‘leader’ has brought this country to a new low - a real achievment when you think of the enormous number of lows he’s had a hand in. Obviously, folks on this site will nearly unanimously agree that he and his administration are war criminals, but the American people are easily manipulated by gasoline prices and swiftboat ads - if no one stands up and takes action, they will “win”, as usual. Dirty tricks and all - people just can’t seem to get it into their heads that WE are the BAD GUYS to the rest of the world - not because the American public is bad, but because our leaders are bad - still, it’s the ‘little people’ who get killed, for the most part - HUGE LONG TERM protests and work stoppages might work, although these guys will probably react with extreme overkill - didn’t I read that an American General suggested the use of ‘experimental weapons’ on american protesters? Hmmmmmm. Stay tuned - this reality TV is awful, but certainly interesting.
By Bill Monroe, September 22, 2006 at 9:31 am #
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It’s time to say it and take action: he’s not president, these aren’t laws, you can’t write a law like that. This is a war crime. Where are the police ???
By kevin99999, September 23, 2006 at 8:23 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
One does not have to be genius to figure out that the so called compromise bill guts the artical 3 of Geneva Convention. McCain has turned into snake oil salesman by appearing to care about adherence to standards agaisnt torture prescribed in the convention, and it absolves the administration from the past breaches of the law as well.
This has been a joke. I guess times have changed. Now, you have to be for breaking the laws to stand a chance for election.
Well done McCain. Wink a few more times.
Report thisBy MARIAM RUSSELL, September 22, 2006 at 4:20 pm #
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I am asking.....who is to apply this torture....your children. my grand children, your nieces and nephews, mine..........
Report thisAre medical schools going to ad a course.
Will we have degrees and scholarships.
By Spinoza, September 22, 2006 at 2:40 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
I was listening to the radio, NPR, when coming home from shopping and not paying much attention. The right wing columnist from the NYTimes (David Brock or Brook or something like that) and some “Democrat” was discussing the issues and they were saying how Bush had won and the Democrats were secretly very happy with the “compromise”.
Obviously Fascism is alive and well in this country and the smell of sulphur is very strong.
For those few of you who care please,please help in organizing some opposition to fascism on October 5th.
Report thisBy Spinoza, September 22, 2006 at 2:38 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
I was listening to the radio, NPR when coming home from shopping and not paying much attention. The right wing columnist from the NYTimes (Brock or Brook or something like that) and some “Democrat” was discussing the issues and they were saying how Bush had won and the Democrats were secretly very happy with the “compromise”.
Obviously Fascism is alive and well in this country and the smell of sulphur is very strong.
For those few of you who care please,please help in organizing some opposition to fascism on October 5th.
Report thisBy R. A. Earl, September 22, 2006 at 1:53 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)
America seems to be everywhere… “rushing in to save people from themselves” whether invited or not. (God help those who have oil under their soil… they’ll be the first to be “helped.")
I ask, who is going to rush in to save AMERICA from itself?
What a crossroads in history! If Americans let their government entrench these clear violations against humanity, who’s going to reverse them? The government has the control of the army… the guns… the police.
NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY AMERICANS REFUSE TO GIVE UP THEIR PERSONAL WEAPONS… THEY’RE GOING TO NEED THEM TO GET THEIR HIJACKED COUNTRY BACK!
Report thisBy harald hardrada, September 22, 2006 at 1:17 pm #
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the three senators went along with bush when he assured them he’d only authorize torturing innocent americans
Report thisBy Manny, September 22, 2006 at 12:00 pm #
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Little by little our country is unfolding into a
Report thistotalitarian state. In time, every American will
loss all rights to due process of law. This is just the beginning, of “Big Brother” in rounding up enemies of the state. A goverment that will
use torture and deny you evidence in court will eventually use these same tactics on their own citizens. Yes, Mr. G. Bush is at war. He has declared war on our Constitution. What is so painful is the American people appear to be
oblivious to the creation of this totalitarian
state.
By frank Delgado, September 22, 2006 at 10:22 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
The fools don’t know they are sealing their own prison. The govt had designated Padilla an American citizen as a non-combatant. What to stop the govt from abusing our rights in the name of secuity and try us without letting us see evidents. How can one mount a defendse against what one don’t know what to defend against?
Report thisWhere is the outrag, people!
By TruthPlease, September 22, 2006 at 10:14 am #
(Unregistered commenter)
Once again, our ‘leader’ has brought this country to a new low - a real achievment when you think of the enormous number of lows he’s had a hand in. Obviously, folks on this site will nearly unanimously agree that he and his administration are war criminals, but the American people are easily manipulated by gasoline prices and swiftboat ads - if no one stands up and takes action, they will “win”, as usual. Dirty tricks and all - people just can’t seem to get it into their heads that WE are the BAD GUYS to the rest of the world - not because the American public is bad, but because our leaders are bad - still, it’s the ‘little people’ who get killed, for the most part - HUGE LONG TERM protests and work stoppages might work, although these guys will probably react with extreme overkill - didn’t I read that an American General suggested the use of ‘experimental weapons’ on american protesters?
Report thisHmmmmmm. Stay tuned - this reality TV is awful, but certainly interesting.
By Bill Monroe, September 22, 2006 at 9:31 am #
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It’s time to say it and take action:
Report thishe’s not president, these aren’t laws,
you can’t write a law like that.
This is a war crime. Where are the police ???