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Clinton Attacks Torture Agenda

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Posted on Sep 21, 2006
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In an interview with NPR’s “Morning Edition,” former President Bill Clinton vigorously argued against Bush’s torture plans, citing both moral and practical reasons: “We have a system of laws here where nobody should be above the law, and you don’t need blanket advanced approval for blanket torture.”


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A debate over allowing coerced testimony and reinterpreting the Geneva Conventions has raged between the White House and its Republican allies in the Senate.

President Bush says he wants “clarity” on the Geneva rules. And he said in a recent speech that the CIA has used what he called “alternative” means of interrogation.

Former President Clinton proposes a way that that presidents might allow rough questioning of suspects under extreme circumstances—but he is sharply against a major change in the law.

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By MARIAM RUSSELL, September 23, 2006 at 8:49 am Link to this comment
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WHO WENT TO JAIL FOR THE TORTURE CARRIED OUT IN VIETNAM, CENTRAL AMERICA, AND ALL OVER THE WORLD WHERE WE HAVE TORTURED EITHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY FOR MANY YEARS…..................
THIS ADMINISTRATION, LIKE MOST UNTHINKING CHILDREN, WERE SURE THEY COULD DO ANYTHING AND BE IMMUNE UNTIL SOME OF THE PUBLIC ACTUALLY HAD THE GALL TO MENTION TRIALS, JAIL, WAR CRIMES, THEN THEY REMEMBERED THAT MAYBE IT COULD HAPPEN SO THEY NEEDED TO TAKE STEPS TO IMMUNE THEMSELVES…....THAT IS WHAT THIS BILL IS.
they are not asking for permission…..they are demanding that you be consciously complicit…why not…we have unconsciously complicit for a very long time.
SO, I ASK YOU, ARE YOUR CHILDREN GOING TO TORTURE SCHOOL, MY GRANDCHILDREN, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN, MR. CLINTON. WILL WE HAVE UNIVERSITY DEGREES, SCHOLARSHIPS.
I AM SERIOUS, IF THIS IS TO BE LEGAL AND ACCEPTABLE, HOW WILL IT PLAY OUT. WILL THEY MOVE THE TORTURE SCHOOL FROM FORT BENNING TO HARVARD.

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By Mad As Hell, September 21, 2006 at 8:50 pm Link to this comment
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A few times in my life I’ve been in accidents that put me in SO much pain I don’t know how I stood it.  It was beyond comprehension. Sometimes it was accidental, sometimes it was necessary to treat the result of the accident.  The only way the doctors, nurses and physical therapists could inflict SUCH pain was the knowledge that it was my path to recovery.

Nothing less than that could have led these good men and women to have hurt me so much.  Naturally, I am grateful to them.

But to inflict that kind of pain, or worse, permanent damage to another human being just because you want him/her to talk is satanic.  To order it, but not carry it out yourself is the height of cowardice.  To carry it out requires you to either be a mindless idiot or a psychopath.

We have a lunatic as president.

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By faith, September 21, 2006 at 10:18 am Link to this comment
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First, good for former President Clinton for speaking out against torture.
Next, I cannot believe that American leaders are having this conversation.  How could anyone,  anyone in their right mind condone, excuse, or advocate the torture of any other human being.  It is appalling.  I am just heartsick that discussions weighing the pros and cons of torture are before the leaders and the congress of this nation.  While I truly think that we voters, must vote a straight democratic ticket in order to balance the power in the U.S., I am also persuaded that we need to vote out every congressperson who refused to take a stand against this White House regime’s military tactics and torture policies.  That includes the Attorney General Gonzales who views our laws concerning torture as “quaint”.

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By R. A. Earl, September 21, 2006 at 10:06 am Link to this comment
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How you treat others - ALL OTHERS - defines just what kind of a person you are. Your ACTIONS demonstrate your values and attitude. This holds as true for a NATION as it does for an individual.

There, Mr. Bush, does that clarify the Geneva Convention enough for you?

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