Ah, Mr. Anderson ...

If only I lived in the Trobriand Islands! ... I just thought you would know that I didn’t. My mistake. I apologize. My view is that of a Northern European Protestant Christian heritage male in my late 60’s now living in the United States ... New Jersey, if that helps.

And I am really not much of a social anthropologist ... or primate zoologist ... but my anecdotal experience and the little I have read, seems to indicate a substantial role of the alpha male in distribution ... but I could be wrong ... again.

And my reading of Judaic-Christian literature tends to make me think it was the men who wanted to control property and lineage ... but then again I am no expert, and merely giving my view of the elephant ... as are you?

Anyhow, thanks for the viewpoint ... dialogue is so much better than monologue.

No hunting and gathering cultures that I know have a division of the kill at all, everyone shares everything..

There was never any leadership, that we would recognize as such, in these sorts of cultures.

All religions are not the same, and many do not repress sex at all. Malinowski studied the Trobriand Islands, where sexaulity had very little repression, they considered us perverted for our repressed sexuallity..

Heightened sexual activity can actually act as a form of birth control.

Actually it was the women who figured out that they could control men by turning sexuality into a means of controlling property, by controlling the lineage through infanticide, just as they do now.

And of course Bonobo’s don’t have lawyers.

The inexperienced often do not have sufficent knowledge and experience to demenstrate that they are effective hunters and that they can provide for a family, expecially when the average life expectancy of a neolithic hunter was 16, it took a lot to make it to 30. 

In a disposable society, of course we make a cult of youth…

And then old men figured out that if they controlled access to sex through shame ... and the division of the kill from the hunt ... they could put off relinquishing control to the young ones ... voila! religion was invented.

I think it is really sad when folks finally wake up to the joy of sex after living a life denying it. Then we can’t go back to what it’s like when we are young and the rules of simply caring about your partner(s) and the consequences of whatever you do together are all that are needed.

The wisdom of old age is NOT wisdom. It’s old age.

read The Third Chimpanzee By Jared Diamond.

...and, if memory serves, it’s not at all limited to heterosexual activity.  Bonobos clearly need reparative therapy. Ex-gay bonobos, rescued from perversity.