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U.S. Will Give All U.S. Detainees Geneva Rights

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Posted on Jul 11, 2006
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From antiwar.com

The White House said this morning that every prisoner in Gitmo and in U.S. military custody everywhere is entitled to Geneva Convention protections. Bush spokesman Tony Snow claimed that this apparent about-face is “not really a reversal of policy,” while admitting that it stems directly from the Supreme Court’s striking down of Bush’s military tribunals.

  • Reminder: This is far from total victory. Constitutional expert Glenn Greenwald reminds us that the Hamdan ruling also removed any conceivable argument to support Bush’s illegal wiretapping programs, and we haven’t heard about any policy shift on that front….

  • AP:

    The Bush administration said Tuesday that all detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and in U.S. military custody everywhere are entitled to protections under the Geneva Conventions.

    White House spokesman Tony Snow said the policy, outlined in a new Defense Department memo, reflects the recent 5-3 Supreme Court decision blocking military tribunals set up by President Bush. That decision struck down the tribunals because they did not obey international law and had not been authorized by Congress.

    The policy, described in a memo by Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England, appears to reverse the administration’s earlier insistence that the detainees are not prisoners of war and thus not subject to the Geneva protections. But the administration has insisted that it has always treated the detainees humanely.

    Word of the Bush administration’s new stance came as the Senate Judiciary Committee opened hearings Tuesday on the politically charged issue of how detainees should be tried.

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    By sholmes, July 11, 2006 at 10:24 pm #
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    We are at war.

    They torture our boys and cut there heads off, and you are worried that they are not comfortable enough.  If an enemy is found on the battlefield he is guilty.  But we treat them better than our own soldiers.  They have three meals, rooms, books, time for prayer.  It is not a normal life but better than we would get in anyun loving country of the world for sure.

    Let’s let them go and see what they do.  Oh we have and some have already rejoined those aligned to kill us.  What will liberals conclude from that? Probably that it is our fault again, because they are self defeating when in charge of any nation.

    Why don’t people realize that this is a war?  When it is over the prisoners are released.

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    By paul kibble, July 11, 2006 at 6:14 pm #
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    Re: Comment #13466 by One_America

    Oh, those pussy-ass, learning-disabled liberals and their goddam antiquated notions of “a fair trial.”

    Gosh, did I miss something here? Exactly when were these detainees convicted of specific acts of terrorism?

    I mean, what about that “guilty until proven innocent” shit that’s supposed to distinguish our Anglo-American system of justice from the kangaroo courts of totalitarian regimes?

    I thought we were trying to win all those hearts and minds in Saddamland and elswhere by pimping a New-Coke [Arabized] version of democracy that guaranteed these heathen dwelling in outer darkness all those cumbersome but unfortunately kinda necessary rights that we’ve traditionally enjoyed?

    Goodness, checking out Gitmo, some uh dem cynical fur-en-urs who have witnessed despotic Star Chambers up close and personal might start muttering, “Wait a sec, why am I getting a sense of deja vu here? Maybe Osama had a point.”

    Since One-American clearly believes that the principles of due process now are as quaint as A.G. Gonzales recently pronounced the Geneva Conventions to be, why not simply scrap the Constitution altogether so that we can sink dreamily into the warm embrace of fascism, where citizens will finally know their place under the Leader’s thumb and all those pesky questions about legitimate authority, legal or otherwise, will just vanish?

    You’re right about one thing, too, Uno Americano: we are losing ground every day, thanks to obedient servants like you who have become willing accomplices in their own demise.
    Bow your head to de Massah, then set it on the ole chopping block! I mean, it’s not like you need it.

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    By One_American, July 11, 2006 at 1:18 pm #
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    Instead of calling you section “Ear to the Ground”, you should call it “Cranium up the Bum”.

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    By One_American, July 11, 2006 at 1:13 pm #
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    Avocacy for the protection of terrorists. Tsk Tsk.

    When will liberals ever learn?

    “This is far from total victory”.  You got that one right.  You’re losing ground every day, by your own actions, no less.

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    By Anna Taylor, July 11, 2006 at 12:57 pm #
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    Ah: Cheney-Bush Backs Down . . . a first baby-step in the long march to convictions for stealing two elections, hijacking the armed forces, spying on citizens, etc.

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    By Maezeppa, July 11, 2006 at 12:53 pm #
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    Wrong frame! 

    Better: “US recognizes detainees’ rights under the Geneva Convention”

    The US criminally denied them the treatment due.

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