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Were Cheney, Gonzales and Hayden Lying About Wiretap Capabilities?Posted on Jul 5, 2006
If Bloomberg News is correct in its June 30 report that the NSA’s warrantless wiretapping program started up to seven months before the Sept. 11 attacks, then why did the vice president, the attorney general and the new CIA chief say otherwise?
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By CV, July 8, 2006 at 7:51 am Link to this comment
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What? Cheney, Gonzales and Hayden were lying? Hard to imagine, isn’t it?
There is no War on Terrrrrrr, not in the sense of a declared war. It’s more of a rhetorical war, like the aspirational terrrrrrrst plots they’ve “foiled”. The power they are grabbing is only camoflaged by the Terrrrrrst threat.
Report thisThe War in Iraq wasn’t related to terrrrsm. (It’s over, BTW, mission accomplished! we are now Occupiers.) The US is not at war, officially, with any other nation.
No War, no Wartime Powers.
They’ll have to come up with some other lie,uh, excuse,uh, reason for shredding the Constitution.
What is it going to take before people realize that we are in serious danger, not from the “crescent of instability” but from Pennsylvania Avenue.
Don’t count on clean elections in ‘06. Don’t count on elections at all in ‘08, but you can put money on at least one major hit between now and then. Bin Laden is a contractor. Osama wants Bush in power, Bush is Al Qeada’s best recruiting tool. And Vice-Versa.
By The Oracle, July 6, 2006 at 11:55 pm Link to this comment
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Republicans have a history of using our nation’s intelligence agencies for their own nefarious, anti-democracy practices.
In any discussion about the Cheney/Hayden/NSA connection, we must remember that John Bolton, the recess-appointed United States ambassador to the United Nations, also reportedly asked the NSA for the unredacted names of U.S. citizens picked up in NSA surveillance intercepts.
Supposedly, Bolton only did this ten times. But with this new information that the secret, domestic, illegal intercepts of U.S. citizen’s communications started as soon as Bush/Cheney got into the White House in early 2001, I must presume that they started doing their best Nixon impression immediately after stealing the 2000 election and entering office in late January 2001.
The Bush administration obviously turned Hayden and the NSA into their own personal spy network. Cheney and Rumsfeld, from their Nixon days, have always had their “enemies” list. They couldn’t stop themselves, therefore, when given the chance (or stealing the chance, as the case may be).
They’ve used our nation’s intelligence agencies to go after Democrats, any straying Republicans and the communications of ambassadors at the United Nations. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that they’ve also used our intelligence agencies as industrial spies…to reward those companies and CEOs who support them, while punishing those companies and CEOs who don’t give their complete allegiance (and money) to the Republican/Christianista cause.
In the process, the Bush administration has perverted our Democracy, subverted our Constitution, sabotaged our Bill of Rights and endangered the lives of all American citizens…including our nation’s children and grandchildren. And when I say this, I also mean the endangerment of the children and grandchildren of even the most ardent followers of the Bush administration…though they are completely unaware of the poison they’ve injected into the Land of Liberty and Justice for All.
Report thisBy paperorplastic, July 6, 2006 at 7:02 pm Link to this comment
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“If only we could have found a way to ignore those pesky law-things…” Dick said, “...we could have saved the country. Now stop being so pushy about oversight, you darned justices - we’re busy saving democracy here”!
Report thisBy Vietnam Vet, July 6, 2006 at 10:48 am Link to this comment
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If you ask them, they will of course say they were not lying. Pathological liers really believe what they are saying!
Report thisBy C Quil, July 6, 2006 at 10:07 am Link to this comment
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These guys have lied so often about so much that I don’t think they know what the truth is any more.
Report thisBy TDW, July 6, 2006 at 4:43 am Link to this comment
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Everyone we have heard from in this administration says that terrorisam was not a priority in this administration until 9/11. We have heard this from many, many people.
So what was up with Cheney making trips to the NSA about the domestic spying program as early as February, 2001, as was reported by Jason Leopold, shortly after the big story hit the news last December?
Admittedly, Cheney was supposed to be heading up a terorism task force, but that task force did not even meet for the first time until Spetember, 2001, according to Richard Clarke.
Wsa terroism a priority or not, before 9/11? The energy task force sure as hell got off the ground fast.
Ashcroft is quoted by someone at Justice as having told an aide that he did not want to hear anything more about Al Qaeda. Furthermore, his budget request proved his lack of interest in the subject of terrrorism, as it was barely mentioned in that request, if at all. Was he not cummunicating with the rest of the administration?
Why were they wanting to monitor domestic calls before 9/11? If they aren’t, in the least, interested in terrorism, who were they wanting to monitor or track and why?
Everyday, the official story of 9/11 and the anthrax attacks (whatever happened to that investigation?) stinks a little more. The clarity of hindsight is every bit as spooky as the dust-clouded view over NYC on that September morning.
Report thisBy saul, July 5, 2006 at 9:00 pm Link to this comment
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Let’s see, are you finally saying that these people lie?
Report thisThe truth is they had info but it was not shared with the right agencies.
Rice claimed that the info that the 26 words about uranium never reached a high level and yet it was received by her direct underling at the time, Stephen Hadley
By Matt O., July 5, 2006 at 7:18 pm Link to this comment
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Also, don’t forget—if they had the program up to seven months before 9/11, wouldn’t that suggest that the NSA surveillance program does not work?
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