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Stan Goff is a retired veteran of the U.S. Army Special Forces. During an active-duty career that spanned 1970 to 1996, he served with the elite Delta Force and Rangers, and in Vietnam, Guatemala, Grenada, El Salvador, Colombia, Peru, Somalia and Haiti....






 
 

Sowing the Seeds of Fascism in America

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Sex, Race, and Guns

Anson Rabinbach and Jessica Benjamin, writing in American Imago in 1995 (“In the Aftermath of Nazi Germany: Alexander Mitscherlich and Psychoanlaysis—Legend and Legacy”):

The crucial element of fascism is its explicit sexual language, what Theweleit calls “the conscious coding” or the “over-explicitness of the fascist language of symbol.” This fascist symbolization creates a particular kind of psychic economy which places sexuality in the service of destruction. Despite its sexually charged politics, fascism is an anti-eros, “the core of all fascist propaganda is a battle against everything that constitutes enjoyment and pleasure.” ... He shows that in this world of war the repudiation of one’s own body, of femininity, becomes a psychic compulsion which associates masculinity with hardness, destruction, and self-denial.

Men who are threatened by women’s decreased dependency and increased organization often adopt an individual strategy of “ overconformity,” compulsively acquiring “masculine” accoutrements, be they giant automobiles, guns or attack-breed dogs, and just as compulsively behave as if they are trying out for a role with the World Wrestling Foundation—affecting a kind of bright-eyed homicidal aggression as we are further socialized to equate fear with respect. 

Divisions of “male” labor and divisions of “female” labor respond to changes in the economic and political terrain.  Look at the more “respectable” masculinity that prioritizes responsibility to the family—which keeps men who are not in the ruling class working. Compare that to the fascistic masculinity displayed by the masculine over-conformers (described above), which merges easily with the idealization of military masculinity in times when warfare plays a more central role in society—for example, during crises of (economic and social) destabilization.  War becomes necessary to “rescue” the nation.  Gun culture is permeated with this thought, including its sense of embattlement, and its embrace of mythical frontier masculinity that sacrifices comfort to overcome dark forces from the Outside.

Economic destabilization is extremely disruptive of conventional masculinities that equate the male role with that of a provider (I am not endorsing “provider masculinity” or any expression of patriarchy, but comparing them); and create the conditions for overcompensation in the form of hyper-normal male identity ... as an armed actor.

The rise of fascistic masculinity prefigures systemic fascism, often in the form of vigilantism. Gun culture is steeped in vigilantism, which is steeped in military lore.  Guns in this milieu transcend their practical uses and take on a powerful symbolic significance.

In the last decade, the National Rifle Association (NRA), which has always had close ties with the military, has been taken over from what are considered within the organization as “moderates,” that is, those whose message emphasizes peaceful, law-abiding gun use, like hunting (which is not peaceful for the game animals, but that’s another issue). 

During my service with 3rd Special Forces Group in Haiti in 1994, members of the SFU initiated back-channel communications in support of the right-wing death squad network, FRAPH.

Two of the favored preoccupations of Barry, the SFU, Soldier of Fortune, and the NRA were Ruby Ridge, where Vicki Harris, the wife of an ex-Special Forces white supremacist (Randy Weaver), was killed by an FBI sniper with her baby in her arms, and the outrage at Waco against the Branch Davidians.

Let me say here, for the record, that the FBI actions in both these cases were criminal and inexcusable, and largely provoked by the FBI itself.  But the fact that Weaver was one of the neo-fascists own, and that Koresh and his acolytes were white, combined with the stunning abuse of power by the federal government in both cases, turned these two cases into a twin cause celebre for the militia-right.  I will also note that I own firearms; I have no problem with others owning them; and I think much liberal opposition to firearms is stupid and moralistic and drives many people into the arms of the lunatic right.  I am an advocate of the right to self-defense.  My critique of gun culture is a critique of those sectors for which guns have been combined with imaginary enemies and taken on a deeply symbolic value as tokens of a violent, reactionary masculinity that fantasizes about armed conflict as a means to actualize its paranoid male sexual identity.

The problem is that this reaction is far from ab-normal.

There is a kind of interlocking directorate between white nationalists, gun culture, right-wing politicians, mercenary culture (like Soldier of Fortune), vigilante and militia movements, and elements within both Special Forces and—now—the privatized mercenary forces.  It is hyper-masculine, racialist, militaristic and networked.

If one simply pays attention to cultural production in the United States, especially film and video games, it is fairly easy to see that the very memes that are the cells within the body of white nationalist militarism are ubiquitous within our general cultural norms.  The film genre that most closely corresponds to a fascist mind-set is the male revenge fantasy, wherein after some offense is given that signifies the breakdown of order (usually resulting in the death or mortal imperilment of idealized wives or children) in which Enlightenment social conventions prove inadequate, and the release of irrational male violence is required to set the world straight again.  Any reader can list these fantasies without a cue. It is one of the most common film genres in American society.

R. W. Connell wrote in “Masculinities”  (University of California Press, 1995):

In gender terms, fascism was the naked reassertion of male supremacy in societies that had been moving toward equality for women.  To accomplish this, fascism promoted new images of hegemonic masculinity, glorifying irrationality (“the triumph of the will”, thinking with “the blood”) and the unrestrained violence of the frontline soldier.

Chaotic Dark Othering

It is in no way aberrant when the lionized Theodore Roosevelt can be quoted saying: “the timid man, the lazy man, the man who distrusts his country, the over-civilized man, [italics mine] who has lost the great fighting, masterful virtues, the ignorant man, and the man of dull mind, whose soul is incapable of feeling the mighty lift that thrills ‘stern men with empires in their brains’—all these, of course, shrink from seeing the nation undertake its new duties; shrink from seeing us build a navy and army adequate to our needs; shrink from seeing us do our share of the world’s work, by bringing order out of chaos in the great, fair tropic islands from which the valor of our soldiers and sailors has driven the Spanish flag.”

Roosevelt was also a lifetime member of the NRA, itself founded by Civil War veterans who were dismayed by the poor marksmanship of soldiers and decided to prepare the next generation of boys and men for armed combat.

Roosevelt is often cited as a conservationist who admired the wilderness.  What is less often noted is that “wilderness” was seen as a place where men could test themselves against “raw” nature, and that he referred to said wilderness as “lands we have won from the Indians.”  Karl Rove claims to be a major fan of Teddy Roosevelt biographies and quotes Roosevelt often.

The use of mythic male wartime figures is a common political ploy.  Former Attorney General John Ashcroft frequently used Lincoln that way to justify his own attacks on civil liberties, implicitly comparing the phony war on terror to the American Civil War.

This is not news, but it does support my general thesis that some key elements of fascism are already norms for broad sections of American society.

This should give us a special sense of concern that the military—under pressure from a retention and recruitment crisis—has relaxed the screening process against white nationalists joining the military precisely to gain military training and combat experience.  This not only allows more of these dangerous ideologues into the military, it gives them unprecedented access to other combat veterans, brutalized into the sociopathy of war and inured to white supremacy through the inevitable racialization of the occupied enemy.

What makes this particularly alarming is that another essential element for the emergence of fascism is a national enemy.  It is not unremarkable that the very people who question the federal government as an extension of ZOG/Illuminati/World-Government have also accepted the narrative—constructed by that self-same U.S. government for its own martial purposes—of a highly organized, technologically advanced terrorist threat:  Al Qaeda.  This has replaced the vastly overstated threat of the World Communist Conspiracy that proved so useful for the post-WWII American security state.  The fact that immigration is now routinely portrayed as a security issue (letting terrorists in), at the same time that anti-immigrant vigilantism is being supported by public figures like CNN’s Lou Dobbs (arguable already a fascist) and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger , should give all of us pause ... not only because we are now training future McVeighs but because the immigration polemics are finding a receptive audience even among so-called moderates and liberals of the middle-class.

The generalized flexibility of the term “terrorist” makes it infinitely more useful as a political instrument than a specific nation or regime, and so invests the term with a long half-life.  The fact that Al Qaeda is a fiction created by the U.S. government—a fact well documented by researchers like Jason Burke, author of “Al Qaeda: Casting a Shadow of Terror” (Penguin Books, 2004), and even the militarily connected Rand Corporation, which referred to Al Qaeda as “a notion.”

In a stunning bit of linguistic legerdemain, the actual mass movement of political Islam has been recoded by the neocons as ... Islamo-fascism, and among the crypto-libertarians of the white right, fascist is an epithet reserved now for liberals.

With the same semantic abracadabra, the “notion” that is Al Qaeda is transformed by our cultural paranoia in such a way that every Arab, every Muslim, every immigrant, every dissident, every person of color, every (choose your enemy) is a threat; and the world is divided between Us and the Dark Other with no resolution except the agonal, and could—with economic dislocation as the catalyst—tumble us into a paroxysm of white nationalist hyper-masculinity as prelude to a new, uniquely American ... what?

My friend, Steve McClure, a former window dresser and feral scholar in the darker residential regions of Washington, D.C. —itself a study in colonization and social contrasts—notes:

I hate the word fascist.  It has been bandied about so much and brings up images of Storm troopers in grainy newsreels that it seems devoid of meaning.  Furthermore, classical fascism was possible only in a mass society, organized along industrial lines, with one-to-many communications. Classical fascism is a reactionary modernism, a response to class struggle. Both German and Italian variants came to power after the defeat of revolutionary upsurges.

I think our own situation is very different, and a better term needs to be found that captures the unique qualities of our reactionary postmodernism.  “Military police state” doesn’t quite cut it. Fascism implies policing of thought as well as bodies, today’s reaction is selective, policing bodies but allowing private speech and the empty illusions of parliamentary democracy to stand.

The Civilizing Mission

This trend of ignoring the backgrounds of military inductees—driven by numerical necessity—is swelling the ranks of tomorrow’s vigilantes of reaction.  People have the mental habit of assuming that the powerful control their own outcomes.  They don’t.  The militarization of police forces, white flight and urban abandonment, even the international system of dollar hegemony that the military backstops ... these all develop with multiple determinations, more akin to weather than strategy, with the larger system taking on a character independent of the agents within it.  Changing outcomes is not the same as controlling them.

My greatest anxiety for my two grandchildren is not that they will be the victims of a plot but the inheritors of inertia and a society of “good Germans,” while society dives into a long period of unanticipated macho warlordism ... and, oh by the way, ecocide.

We already have whole sections of America—in the former enclaves of a now deracinated working class—where hopelessness exists alongside police forces that function very like a military occupation force.  Before the war, these occupation zones—filled with idled, angry, dark-skinned youths—were our middle-class nightmare, the Dark Chaos that inevitably leads us back to the patriarchal default, to militarized masculinity, and to the cultural celebration of bounty hunting and sexual revenge in feudal prisons.

Alas, the place-marker of a war on drugs—that created the largest national prison population on the planet—couldn’t create the pretext for bases in Southwest Asia, so the war on terror will have to do.  The recruitment crisis that has opened the door to neo-Nazi youths entering military service was anything but a plan.  The term before the war that proponents used to describe its outcome was “cakewalk.”

Now even putative liberals have copped to their own version of “white man’s burden,” saying (the rhetorical) we  cannot “abandon Iraq,” lest “we” leave behind a terrible state of disorder.  And so “we” continue down that hoary, blood-drenched path of “civilizing missions.”

The Bush administration never tires of telling us how war is necessary to protect “us” from disorder.

We need to ask ourselves, however, what sowing the winds of war abroad will reap at home.  They are not Arabs who are painting Aryan Nations graffiti on the shattered walls of Baghdad.

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Dig last updated on Oct. 3, 2006


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By Michael Shaw, July 11, 2007 at 9:33 am Link to this comment

John Hanks IE When social security was created, a lot of private insurance profiteers were unable to extort investment capital.

Absolutely. No small wonder they want to privatize it!

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By John Hanks, July 10, 2007 at 10:47 pm Link to this comment
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If something is run on a social basis that includes co-ops, public libraries, or any other government non-profit enterprise, it is fair to say that it is a form of socialism because it is based on socialist principles (even if the people involved are unaware of it).  It is the principle of co-operative or public ownership that matters.  I agree with your distinction, but it is really a matter of form rather than principle.  When social security was created, a lot of private insurance profiteers were unable to extort investment capital.

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By Michael Shaw, July 10, 2007 at 10:03 pm Link to this comment

I’ll accept that Mr. Hanks. I would like to point out that socialism and social programs are not exactly one and the same. Too often the right tries to compare social security to socialism when in reality it is nothing more than a big national bank account. Funny how when big business pools it’s money it’s called capitalism but when the little guys pool theirs its socialism.

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By John Hanks, July 10, 2007 at 5:57 pm Link to this comment
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Soviet socialism was bad because it was actually state socialism - a monolithic form.  We already have a number of partial socialisms, which the crooks have corrupted.  They include public education, medicare, the military, utilities, etc.  What we need is socialisms (plural) like these instead of one monolithic Soviet kind.

There is nothing wrong with capitalism when it is strongly regulated.  Nor is there anything wrong with little capitalism.  The problem comes when capitalists accumulate enough private power and money to corrupt the government and taint the whole society.

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By Michael Shaw, July 10, 2007 at 2:56 pm Link to this comment

Hey Skruff…..Americans took to fascism like a duck to water….I think it was H L Mencken who once said, “America is the greatest show on earth….not anywhere can you a larger group of goose stepping idiots rallying around a flag.”

Here’s another one : The most popular man under a democracy is not the most democratic man, but the most despotic man. The common folk delight in the exactions of such a man. They like him to boss them. Their natural gait is the goosestep.—H.L. Mencken

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By Michael Shaw, July 10, 2007 at 2:08 pm Link to this comment

Hey Hondo! This is Chato’s land!

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By Michael Shaw, July 10, 2007 at 1:58 pm Link to this comment

85546 Skruff I admired your article surrounding your mother. My father’s mother was Jewish and I didn’t even find this out till I was 12 years old. The reason, racial hatred in America aimed at Jews.

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By Michael Shaw, July 10, 2007 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment

85608 John Hanks, I agree with you in most of your statement about entrenched corruption and criminality. However by embracing socialism would we not be merely replacing one brand of tyranny for another? Look what the social rebellion in Russia led to. A Stalinist dictatorship.

If your talking about socially responsible programs that benefit the majority..IE universal health care, unionism and safety net social programs for those in need, I’m all for it. But I would much rather see an honored restoration in our civil liberties, political accountability and respect for our constitution rather than a socialist government.

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By John Hanks, July 10, 2007 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment
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Almost every major enterprise in this country is tainted by crime.  Health Care, Food, Water, Utilities, Media, elections, warfare, etc. are all criminal enterprises that spend most of their time using advertising to cover their ripoffs.  Socialisms can turn all these big crooks into little crooks.  It is like giving chemo to a metatastized cancer.

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By Skruff, July 10, 2007 at 6:17 am Link to this comment
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84638 by John Hanks on 7/06 at 5:03 pm

“I understand Fascists pretty well having lived with the type and values for years.  They are the abusers.  So, what about the enablers?  These are the lazy cowards who never stand up to their ridiculous notions and bombast.  I get their respect because I do stand up to them and I do challenge their triumphalist notions.”

I like your thought process, or as much of it as you have chosen to display.

I must give some folks a pass however, as they were taught (back in the day) to be polite, and not disrespect anyone’s belief… I no longer hold that view, BUT I was raised with it.

My 90 year old mother was raised with even more baggage. “A woman is never loud or brash”

Funny story though;

Soe while back she got a visit from a friend (I’ll call her Sally) she hadn’t seen since WW II

Sally had dinner with us, then some conversation.  She began talking about “The Jewish influence in media” and went from their to their “shameful miserly habits” finally, my mother said “Oh Sally dear, you wouldn’t know a Jew if you were in the same room with one.  Sally out-did herself with the ext remark; “Oh, I would so, they even smell different.”  My mother said Well, do you smell anything now?” Sally said, “no, Why?” and my mother let her have it: “Because I’m Jewish, and always have been, even when we used to double date together.” Sallygot red, gathered up her coat and hat and left without a word.

I told my mother that it was too bad she lost a friend, She replied “I should have known, and said something 60 years ago, when she spoke the same way about colored folks.”

We got no xmas card from Sally this year.

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By Michael Shaw, July 9, 2007 at 10:13 pm Link to this comment

84589 IE


Got ‘em here in Maine too where the French Canadians compete for jobs, and up in northern Idaho where they live on the shores of awesomely beautiful Hayden Lake, and Down in Oklahoma where My father worked for an oil company which refused to hire native Americans, and up in the money-ladden mansions of New Jersey where they spout traash about black welfare queens, and Along the Hudson north of Westchester in New York where they “hold the line for real Americans”, and down in Florida on the bleached white beaches where they bitch about hispanic interlopers (Didn’t Spain own that once?), and in the old mill towns of New England where “it’s all the Jew’s fault the factories closed.

Nazis are everywhere, In low populatation areas like Wyoming they are more noticable.

Hey Scruff, don’t forget Idaho either. The Skin Heads and the American Nazi Party call it home!

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By Michael Shaw, July 9, 2007 at 10:05 pm Link to this comment
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Stan Goff, I take my hat off to you. Fascism is alive and well in America and has been for a long time. Thank you for bringing more light to this malevent subject. American’s need to wake up before it’s too late!

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By John Hanks, July 6, 2007 at 6:03 pm Link to this comment
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I understand Fascists pretty well having lived with the type and values for years.  They are the abusers.  So, what about the enablers?  These are the lazy cowards who never stand up to their ridiculous notions and bombast.  I get their respect because I do stand up to them and I do challenge their triumphalist notions.

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By Skruff, July 6, 2007 at 2:54 pm Link to this comment
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84557 by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 7/06 at 12:09 pm

“Cheney is really a citizen of Texas - home to presidential assassins and every other form of treason.” 

Wasn’t he a senator for Wyoming awhile back?

“Unfortunately, Wyoming is full of Nazi scumbags on its own tick.”

Got ‘em here in Maine too where the French Canadians compete for jobs, and up in northern Idaho where they live on the shores of awesomely beautiful Hayden Lake, and Down in Oklahoma where My father worked for an oil company which refused to hire native Americans, and up in the money-ladden mansions of New Jersey where they spout traash about black welfare queens, and Along the Hudson north of Westchester in New York where they “hold the line for real Americans”, and down in Florida on the bleached white beaches where they bitch about hispanic interlopers (Didn’t Spain own that once?), and in the old mill towns of New England where “it’s all the Jew’s fault the factories closed.

Nazis are everywhere, In low populatation areas like Wyoming they are more noticable.

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By portage@uwyo.edu, July 6, 2007 at 1:09 pm Link to this comment
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Cheney is really a citizen of Texas - home to presidential assassins and every other form of treason.

We have been smeared because Cheney claims to be from Wyoming when it’s convenient to him.  It is sort of like being a president and a congressman at the same time.

Unfortunately, Wyoming is full of Nazi scumbags on its own tick.  But it is usually only interested in gouging and chiseling the government - not in converting it to a Jim Jones compound.

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By Skruff, July 6, 2007 at 12:38 pm Link to this comment
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John Hanks, Laramie, Wyoming on 7/06 at 9:29 am

“The Matthew Shepard controversy is still alive and well.”


I was talking about your other infamous citizen….Dick Cheney! 

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I had heard from a Wyoming based friend that the Shepard murder was about owed money…. I assume from your reply that’s wrong?

Here in Maine we have a similar tale about two self-identified christian boys who therw a gay man (Charlie Howard) off a bridge into one of the city’s canals, and killed him.  We didn’t get the national coverage you did… Easier to pick on the cowboys in Wyoming than the lumbermen in Maine.

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By John Hanks, Laramie, Wyoming, July 6, 2007 at 10:29 am Link to this comment
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The Matthew Shepard controversy is still alive and well.  The city almost passed a hate crime ordinance but they fell for all the usual Republican lies.
Shepard also is an open question.  Was he murdered over drugs or over being gay?  Perhaps the important thing is that the U.S. Gay Community finally got a victim hero.

Laramie tolerates me as an obvious, visible and extremely annoying anti-Republican.  I’m sort of a village atheist.

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John Hanks, Laramie, Wyoming on 7/05 at 4:31 pm

“Frank Goodman Sr. is right.  Except that most Americans have taken to Fascism like a duck to water since they first conceived the nonsense called “manifest destiny”.  Sadly, the media has made Americans even more immature and ignorant by constantly changing the subject or just making sure that there is no real subject at all.  I still think the average American is capable of changing a tire, but not much else.  The human race is made up of crooks, suckers, and lazy cowards.  The Republican traitors are banking on that.”

Back in 1970, Laramie was a great town, recently it has suffered from some bad exposure.  If you are its new ambassador, I’ll bet a horse license plate it is comming back!

Thanks, obviously, I agree!

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By John Hanks, Laramie, Wyoming, July 5, 2007 at 5:31 pm Link to this comment
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Frank Goodman Sr. is right.  Except that most Americans have taken to Fascism like a duck to water since they first conceived the nonsense called “manifest destiny”.  Sadly, the media has made Americans even more immature and ignorant by constantly changing the subject or just making sure that there is no real subject at all.  I still think the average American is capable of changing a tire, but not much else.  The human race is made up of crooks, suckers, and lazy cowards.  The Republican traitors are banking on that.

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By Bukko in Australia, June 25, 2007 at 8:21 am Link to this comment

Wow Mike, you read some OLD comments! That was from when, last October? My vision is bleak, but then again, I’m an alarmist. I hope I’m wrong.

The topic of Goff’s essay was about the U.S. military being used for fascism, but after what the Cheney Administration has done to the armed forces, who knows what’s going to be left? You’re a veteran, aren’t you Mike? Damn shame how the chickenhawks in charge have extended tours of duty, rotated units back in theatre without enough rest, pushed equipment way harder and longer than it was designed for, and generally run the military into the ground. It’s like loaning a car to your a-hole brother-in-law who redlines the engine, smokes the tires and doesn’t bother to change the oil—only they’re doing it with an entire military machine!

What worries me is these mercenaries like Blackwater, CACI, Titan and others. The military has pride and principles, but hired guns only have loyalty to the paycheck. You mention the monied interests. That’s who the U.S. is being run for, the benefit of the corporations.

Throughout U.S. history, from Old West cattle barons with gunslingers that ran small farmers off the rangeland they wanted, to Harlan County coal mine bosses with Pinkerton men that shot down strikers, people with money use people with guns to kill people who want to make a decent living. Who’s to say it won’t happen again when hard times hit?

Meanwhile, enjoy the time your ticker gives you. The lights still come on when you flick a switch and drinkable water comes out of the tap when you turn the handle. A lot of the world can’t say that. Bad days might be coming, so appreciate the good days you’ve got. Keep your eyes wide open and watch your back.

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By Frank Goodman, Sr., June 25, 2007 at 5:38 am Link to this comment

Unfortunately, I have seen the drift toward fascism in America. Fortunately, I am 79 years old today. I remember all the reactions of America to the trend of history since I was old enough to go to the bath room by my self. My college education filled in some details of past encounters with history. My passtime reading added some more.

The most striking thing about memory is that I remember the descriptions of Fascist Germany and Communist Russia as places where people had no rights. Where the state controlled every aspect of their lives.

Whoa! What do we have today in America? Every detail of the present American government control could be taken from the pages of the magazines of the thirties and forties about fascist nations and communists countries.

Every atrocity attributed to the fascist and communist regimes of the past at the time, can be duplicated in our own government, police forces, and military.

I am old enough to remember. My children do not read history with my eyes. They read it like a history lesson assignment for a grade of “A”. I read it like a letter from Iraq or Palestine about the horrors of military occupation in a hostile population. SWAT teams in every neighborhood. Home demolitions by precision bombing gone awry, home demolition deliberately planned, home destruction by rape and mayhem, the end of civilization—destruction of the civilization impulse of democracy.

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By John Hanks, June 24, 2007 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment
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I have “taken to the streets” ever since the Wellstone family was murdered.  My car is covered with plastic lettering and their are signs in my windows.  I say what I think and a lot of people seem to like that.  For instance, one sign says, “Republicans Return to their Vomit”.  Another sign says, “Anger Is Tiresome.  Hatred Is Serene”.  Another says “He Who Dies Without Lower Middle Class Values Wins”.

I am very well known in my Laramie, Wyoming community.  I simply made the conscious decision that I would rather be murdered now than die later in Naziland.  It is a soldier type decision.

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By rabid viola, April 26, 2007 at 8:29 am Link to this comment
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Right ON, Nikolai!

2008 will tell the tale…but I worry. Giuliani is a popular and well-known man, thanks again to 9-11.
Obama and Clinton, I’m afraid, will SPLIT the Demo vote, unless they join the same platform in the best interests of the Party and the Country. (Are you listening out there?)

Nothing suits the current power elite better than to have the brighter middle class folks out there throw up their hands and declare it all a waste of time (which could be better spent watching Fox News, and buying new sneakers).

VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, (while you still have one!) And for Pete’s sake get onto some E-Activism websites and start writing your Reps about issues you support.

NO, they don’t personally read them (grow up, already) but they DO TALLY OPINIONS, believe me. ONE letter counts, by their reckoning, for about 3,000 votes (i think—not exactly sure of the assigned number). Phone calls some other number—so NO it isn’t a useless pursuit. HASSLE THESE GUYS—MAKE THEM COUNT YOUR OPINIONS ON EVERY ISSUE YOU CARE ABOUT!

My personal E-faves:
1. AFL-CIO Now
(workingman’s issues—supports Bills that block Big Business from stomping folks)
2. Free Press for Media Reform
(supports Bills that prevent all media from slipping into fewer and fewer hands)
3. Greenpeace
(global warming, rain forest destruction, irresponsible logging, etc.)
4. Save the Internet
(trying to prevent the filtering of your access to blogs and small websites [like this one!] by AT&T, COMCAST, VERIZON, and others as part of their plan to enahance speed only to websites that pay them big bucks, and thus slow all the others {yes, REALLY!})
5. PFAW (People For the American Way)
supports all sorts of civil rights issues.

Your issues might not be mine, dear reader. That’s American. But get out there and find the folks who are raving mad about YOUR stuff—and let Congress KNOW how YOU Feel.

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By hee-haw, April 9, 2007 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment
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“This is an affront to something sacred in the public imaginary of a thoroughly militarized United States: that we are an international beacon of civilized virtue, and that our military is the masculine epitome of that virtue standing between our suburban security and the dark chaos of the Outside.  Questioning the mystique of the armed forces is tantamount to lunacy at best and treason at worst.”

Sounds like a questisential trait of the fraudulent-patriot group calling themselves “Gathering of Eagles.”

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By Ms. Melody Battista, March 23, 2007 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment
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Medaille College (Lesbian); The Church in the Wind Ministries (S.O.G. MC- Alternative Cult); Bryant & Stratton College (Liberal); Ms. Melody Battista (GAY-Crazy Head); Karaoke/Sex Pervert Justin; Guy Michaels Cercone (Adulterer)= White Racists (Western N.Y.) want WHITES ONLY!!! NO Minorities Allowed!!!! White people hide their prejudices. They get mad if you are a leader/educated/$$$$$$$$$ & gets respected in society!!! Churches are homos, perverts, liars, etc… all trying to please each other as a Liberal Christian. The Devil is a Christian among the Day Time People & Pagan during the Night Time People. Crazy with Hatred in people in U.S.A. or United Snakes of AmeriKKKa!!!!

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By Bukko in Australia, March 11, 2007 at 8:41 pm Link to this comment
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Cunningham, you seem to have become the target of left-wing jibes on this thread. And I realise you’re trying to provoke right back. You’re ore mannerly about it than most rightists, though.

My wife and I didn’t leave the U.S. due to fear. Mate, it’s much scarier to sell off or give away everything that you can’t justify putting on a ship, and then to venture halfway around the world to a land you’ve only seen on a 2-week scouting trip, where you don’t know anyone, and can be kicked out of the country if you don’t get on with the boss. (I’m here on a work visa that’s controlled by my hospital, and if I get fired, I’m not just out of a job, I’m out of the COUNTRY!)

We left because of morality. We consider the killing the U.S. is doing now, and the potential nuclear genocide on Iran, to be deeply immoral. We didn’t want to pay taxes for it any more. Luckily, I have a portable profession, and we had a house in San Francisco that we could sell at the peak of the housing market, so we were able to exile in style.

There WAS an element of fear, though. Not fear of Muslims, but of the U.S. government. Getting back to fascism, my wife and I are convinced that America is going down the fascist path. Money and power are being concentrated in the extreme upper class. Middle-class people get screwed in that environment. We had a chance to escape with our money and morals intact, so we did.

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By John Hanks, March 11, 2007 at 4:43 pm Link to this comment
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Here is a letter to the editor that I wrote for a Wyoming newspaper.

Queen Victoria hated “enthusiasm” and I agree with her.  You can almost always spot a crook by his wild enthusiasm or his absolute certainty.  When Ann Coulter says Democrats are faggots she does it with the same certainty that she might announce that they are all from outer space.  The trick is to keep the tone right and the expression sarcastic as if it is impossible for anyone to disagree.  She knows her right-wing suckers well.  Context is the most important thing in language.  Half-baked and poorly educated conservatives practice smear tactics as well as she does.

Start with a wild insult and you control everything.  Every neo-con traitor dirt bag knows the drill.  Sadly, too many liberals and progressives have been too interested in ideas and facts to catch on to the simple verbal aggression that is the stock and trade of every right-wing con artist.  If a conservative smears you, the best way to deal with the problem is to forget the choir boy stuff and reach for a baseball bat.  The worst way is to try to defend yourself in a civilized manner as if right-wingers are ever “civilized”.  As Ecclesiastes might have said, There is a time for “civilized discourse” and there is a time for “barbarism”. 

Your average lower middle class Republican is angry at the world and “anger speech” is always on the tip of his tongue.  He particularly despises liberals who read books, play with ideas, and have lively conversations.  Most horrifying of all he suspects that liberals don’t believe in Santa Clause.  The conservative mind, which understands all things at age 16, fights valiantly to keep its fists up against any idea that has not been certified by Limbaugh or Coulter.  He follows in the ancient tradition of those who thought lightening rods and regional time zones were the work of the devil.

The irony is that the American right-wing conservative is the most radical person in our history.  Unable to win honest elections, he feels free to rig them.  Unable to persuade Americans to wage wars of conquest, he flies Americans into skyscrapers as a sort of circus stunt to whip things up.  Since he hates people smart enough to see through his endless tricks, he makes sure that our media and schools become propaganda mills for his comic book ideas.  Every American institution is debased in the service of the privileged few, who have endless wealth, plus the criminal values of New York mafia dons and Southern plantation owners.  They whipped up enthusiasm for a never-ending phony war that they knew was lost before it started.  Still, it was a great way to brew up a honey pot for drug kingpins, weapons dealers, and every other sort of over-privileged jerk.

I don’t believe that America exists anymore.  We are just another pathetic third world shack full of termites and falling apart.  I do believe in crooks and traitors, however,  and they are as obvious as the maggots on a dead horse.

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John Hanks, I guess your latest may have been directed at me.  Only did three semesters at the University of Buffalo in ‘81 and 2.  I guess I was too stupid to go any further, I managed to accumulate a 44 year work history, though.  Like, I’m 59, well, you do the math.  I live in the middle of a hot bed of rabid liberals, that’s why when I’m with those professors, we drive each other to drink.  We’re all the same age now.  I grew up around here.  To paraphrase Kerry’s botched joke, they went to college, I was too stupid and got sent to Vietnam, ‘67-‘68 and this is how stupid I really am, asked to go back again in ‘70-‘71.  Can I make a suggestion?  Instead of getting up on the side of the bed that you do, thereby starting each day with banging your head on the wall and having a miserable day, get up on the other side.  I may be stupid, but you seem to be making yourself sick. Better yet, I’m going to suggest that to your parents as soon as they get back.

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By John Hanks, March 9, 2007 at 7:49 pm Link to this comment
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It always cheers me up to see a right-wing crook defend his license to steal.  It’s like watching a dog walk on his hind legs.  It must have been hard work not learning anything while in college.

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By John Cunningham, March 9, 2007 at 4:33 pm Link to this comment
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Heerrr’s Johnnie, I’m so glad I could brighten your day.  Could you be a little more precise and bring me up to speed with which of my, what was it, lower middle class values that gave you such a start.  I sound like Newt?  I did it all from memory.  See, all that studying did pay off. Listen, I still have that roll of paper towel sitting here if you need to wipe your nose.  You sound like my drinking professor buddies from Villanova, Bryn Mawr and Haverford.  You have some stiff competition, boy.

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By John Hanks, March 9, 2007 at 10:38 am Link to this comment
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John:  Can you use smears and insults on your own or do you need Gingrich’s list to help you along.  You lower middle class values types give me a laugh. 
Why do you hate facts and ideas so much?  Ignorance takes a lot of hard work.

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By John Cunningham, March 8, 2007 at 8:30 pm Link to this comment
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Bukko, that’s funny, I have found Truth Digs to be similar to the Fox News Channel, fair and balanced.  When I first started reading blog sites I stumbled into a number of leftist sites and after a while I had to start keeping window cleaner and paper towel by the monitor so I could quickly clean the hate and venom that would come gushing out of the screen.  It was burning holes in the table not unlike the saliva dripping from the monster’s mouth in the Alien movies. That’s a shame you were scared so far away you ran to Australia.  Maybe Bela Pelosi will run for President and she’ll have Murtha as her vice-President.  Will you than feel safe enough to return?  You’ll then have a wide variety of prayer rug shops to choose from.

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By John Hanks, March 8, 2007 at 8:29 pm Link to this comment
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Where is John Cunningham?  Has he run out of smears and insults.

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By Bukko in Australia, March 8, 2007 at 6:19 am Link to this comment
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John, as a Limbaugh/Fox listener and Savage/Drudge reader, I’m surprised you bother with a lefty site like TruthDig. It’s human nature to seek out opinions that reinforce the opinions we already have. Plus, the wildly divergent views of reality expressed by the right and left in America are SO dissimilar that it’s like they’re talking about alternate universes. Too much cognitive dissonance, like having headphones with one earpiece playing classical and the other side set to gangsta rap.

That’s one of the reasons I didn’t listen to right-wing radio for more than a few minutes at a time before I left the U.S. Didn’t match my perception of this planet. Plus, Rush and the others are SO nasty-angry. I wouldn’t want anyone who’s that miserable and insulting in my living room. Why would I have such negativity on my TV or radio? That said, one of my favourite programmes to listen to here is podcasts of a U.S. radio talker named Mike Malloy, who rants as unhingedly as Savage, only from a leftist perspective.

With one difference, which gets back to the original topic of this piece: fascism. Malloy, and Air America Radio, and Truthdig, and the lefty websites I like—they’re ranting AGAINST THE POWERFUL. That includes Democrats and corporations, as well as the Bush Crime Family. Rush, Fox and the like, POUND ON THE LITTLE GUY. Their venom spews on gays, Muslims, blacks, poor people, Mexicans, etc. And they talk a lot about who should be killed. To me, that’s fascist—going after the weak and wanting them dead. Not my scene, mate. Too bad it’s yours.

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By John Hanks, March 6, 2007 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment
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I agree with Bob, but I think he is too much on the side of the angels.  Prejudice is not necessarily bad against traitors.  (There isn’t time or sophistication enough to separate the big Republican traitors from the little ones.)  They mounted an insurgency that is just as real as the one in Iraq, only it is as if the Sunni Republicans put themselves and Saddam Bush in power.  They deserve to be hung, but they should be kept in Leavenworth instead.

Freedom does not exist and it has never existed in this country except in the sense that you are free unless some powerful person has it in for you.  I do agree that there is a sort of “freedom” for people who have progressed beyond a half-baked indoctrination level of education.  Sadly, that freedom is considerably diluted by a culture that is staunchly lower-middle class.

Americanism means lower middle class type loyalty to country.  It is a form of tribalism which allows criminals to manipulate the population at will with jingo slogans and endless pandering bull crap.

Throughout history most peoples including Americans have preferred the annoyances of tyranny.  They have left the lofty thoughts to kings (crooks) and priests (con-artists).  The creation of the American middle class was an exception which just proves the rule.  The human race has always been made up of crooks,  suckers, and lazy cowards.  There are ways to change this sorry state of affairs, but none of them are easy or transparent.

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By John Cunningham, March 6, 2007 at 5:00 am Link to this comment
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Bukko,yes, I do spend a lot of time tuned to FNC and after listening to Rush for a couple of years back in the ‘80’s when he first came on the air I just recently got back into listening to Rushbo.  Savage comes on as a tape in the evening while I’m in the lazyboy channel surfing but I do checkout his web site daily.  Oh my God, you’ve got me pegged.  You’re profiling, that’s not politically correct you know.  I get my Eurabian news hot off the PC (plenty of English versions of all the Eurabian newspapers) plus frequent visits to http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com and http://www.the religionofpeace.com, http://www.hotair.com and http://www.drudge.com.  My life stopped flashing before my eyes years ago.

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Comment #56808 by logical4u on 3/05 at 9:56 am says:

“That is what is so great about this country: you get to decide how you want to live your life and how you want to spend your money”

OOps… I was on board until this ...

I once believed this also, so I sure can see how one might (as you say) “...fall into this trap”. I grew up just north of NYC where the big green lawns and milk and cookies after school insulated us from those who mowed those big lawns, and picked the lettuce we bought at Gristides. 

Then, I went to work for Massachusetts’ Department of Youth Services and moved to Lawrence, a once thriving textile town near the Commonwealth’s wealthy North Shore.

Out in Boxboro, Rowley, and Prides Crossing the folks could decide how they wanted to live their life and how to spend their money”

Back on park Street in Lawrence, where the big mills were shuttering buildings (in favor of cheaper down-south, non-union labor) folks stood for hours in three mile long unemployment lines.  The 805 wage checks went for rent, heat, and food…after that nothing left…sometimes before that.  No chance of moving, no money for that… No chance of a job,  no one hiring, and a bunch more folks joining unemployment lines daily.

My line of work was booming (college degree required) turns out poor children are more vulernable to “economic downturns” than their wealtiier peers.

Later the fires, soring crime rate, and absolute abandonment by alledgedly “liberal” politicians left the gritty old mill city in a hole from which it has yet to emerge.

The poor folks I knew in 1973 may still be eaking out some type of life there…. I doubt it is the one they would choose.

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By logical4u, March 5, 2007 at 10:56 am Link to this comment
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What a beautiful trap you have written!  If anyone disagrees with your predjucial views, you can call them names and lump them into one of your narrow categories. 
While critical of white MALE supremists, there is no mention of MALE supremists in any other culture.  No comparison to black stars that use sexual exploitation of women to sell “art”, or no comparison to the many other cultures on the face of the earth that force women into degrading lifestyles. 
While critical of “white males” that are taking up arms, there is no mention of how dangerous the world has become and that if there wasn’t a market for “mercs” (due to the unsafe world), less would be employed in these fields.
Hate groups are hate groups, it doesn’t matter if they are led by Jesse Jackson, Louis Farakan, Osama bin Laden, David Duke or any similar organization.  Your article is just typical and one of the reasons that “whites” are speaking out: “blame the whites” has become a world-wide chant for people not to take responsibility for their own actions.
The reason “whites” don’t realize “blacks” have it so bad is because the “blacks” they work with have the same opportunities they do.  They are promoted similarly.  When they go into a store and see “blacks” buying steak and namebrand foods with food stamps that they can not afford, with manicures, hair beatifully done and dripping “bling”, it just doesn’t occur to them, that person might not have enough money.  I am not saying that other nationalities (including “whites”) do not do the same thing.  I am saying that you do not see “whites” crying about what they made of their life.  That is what is so great about this country: you get to decide how you want to live your life and how you want to spend your money.  Please don’t lecture “whites” because you made bad decisions.  If you don’t like where you are, work harder to get where you want to go or is that just “too white” for you.  Good luck with that hate thing.

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By Bukko in Australia, March 4, 2007 at 4:51 pm Link to this comment
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Ah, John, you were seeming so rational, mate. You’ve been around, seen Europe, know a bit about the world. But I should have known that anyone who uses the neologism “Eurabia” would also rant on about “Islamofascism.” Both of these are Fox/Limbaugh/Savage buzzwords. You really are frightened, aren’t you? The big bad Muslims are coming get us? There are Muslim arseholes just as there are Christian ones, and the Christians have the better weapons. Who’s killing more of whom? Who’s the bigger threat? The real fascists are the ones on both sides who use fear to whip up hatred and thus control the populace better. Don’t you realise you’re being manipulated by the people ON YOUR SIDE who want to keep you cowering in terror?

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By John Cunningham, March 3, 2007 at 1:44 am Link to this comment
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BillB, Iran is the center of Islamofacism.  They’re the bad guys, we’re not.  Ten percent of Islam is involved with Islamofacism.  Ten percent of a little over a billion is one-hundred million.  One-hundred million that hide behind women and children.  Look at the damage the German army did during the 30’s and 40’s.  Maybe at its peak it had ten million members.  Today the free world is dealing with one-hundred million that have told us that we will either hit the prayer rug five times a day or we will be killed.  What part of that don’t you understand?  What we’re doing is containing Iran by being in Iraq and Afghanistan, they’re surrounded.  Get used to it.

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By Bill B., March 2, 2007 at 8:30 pm Link to this comment
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Excellent and very valuble review of the fascistization of our military. I am a WW II veteran and know how even an egalitarion army, as we were, and a legitimate cause (real defense against aggression) can behave brutally. But we came back mentally intact and largly with a deeper understanding of the world and acceptance of others becasue it was an egalitarion army and a necessary cause. Observing the corrosive effect of this aggression in Iraq and afghanastan on both the civilian population here and the soldiers I worry that we are creating the new SS and SA that will support the dictators a\that are now running our country or their successors. God help us. I thank the author for his insight into the process.

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By Dale Headley, March 2, 2007 at 12:11 pm Link to this comment
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If it waddles like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it’s a DUCK!

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By John Cunningham, March 1, 2007 at 3:59 pm Link to this comment
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Skruff, ah, yes, the Downeasterners.  When I moved to Buffalo in ‘81 I was in my early 30s.  Being from Philadelphia I was very conscious of uptown, downtown, crosstown, north, south, east and west. Every thing laid out in perfect squares.  I started to notice, especially after I started driving the cab, Buffalonians when going to Niagara Falls, 17 miles north of Buffalo, would say, ‘I’m going down to the Falls.’  Of course, I knew what they meant, but sometimes I’d have to take a little shot and say, ‘you mean up to the Falls?’  The response was usually, ‘huh’.  The more I drove the more I noticed it.  Then it hit me.  Before cars and roads the ‘thruway’ of travel was the Niagara River.  It runs north from Lake Erie to Lake Ontario and the direction of flow determines whether you’re going up river or down river.  I guess it’s just something that stuck in the local language.  If you’re today on the Niagara Thruway, running along the banks of the Niagara River, they all say, ‘going down to the Falls’ and when returning to Buffalo say, ‘I’m going up to Buffalo.’

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By Skruff, February 28, 2007 at 7:21 am Link to this comment
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Comment #55709 by John Cunningham on 2/27 at 12:40 pm says:

Skruff, don’t mean to be picky, but, I couldn’t help but notice.  “Way down here in Maine”.  Maine is north of Brooklyn, north is up, south is down and east or west is over to or across to.

A very commom mispreception, but largly reserved to landlubbers.

Maine is “Downeasst”

http://www.marypurslow.com/Map.htm

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By John Cunningham, February 27, 2007 at 1:40 pm Link to this comment
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Skruff, don’t mean to be picky, but, I couldn’t help but notice.  “Way down here in Maine”.  Maine is north of Brooklyn, north is up, south is down and east or west is over to or across to.  Might hurt yourself if you go north and down at the same time, could be painful.

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By Skruff, February 25, 2007 at 8:24 am Link to this comment
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My mother’s neighborhood in Brooklyn, (all Tutonic when she was a girl) is now largly Arab.

Funny though, the houses still have the same look from the street.  Flowers still adorn the window boxes, and it still has one of the lowest crime rates in the city.

Our hospital way down here in Machias Maine (very recently 100% white) now has doctors from Yemmen, Saudi Arabia, India, The Phillipines, and Iran.

I assume these folks are running from conditions they find uncomfortable…  Anyway, I am sure happy to have them.  Before this influx, our supply of qualified physicians was drying up, as they can make far more money around the big cities.

BTW it was a white guy who stole my car…. my only experience as a “victim”

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By John Hanks, February 25, 2007 at 8:01 am Link to this comment
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It is not what a Fascist believes that is so important (that is just the furniture).  Fascists are blockheads that are carefully cultivated by our institutions - including the rich.  They reify ideas and treat them like things or commodities.  Blockheads have charisma and power which is attractive to the gullible, including liberals.  They are basically half-educated and in love with a narrow set of notions which are always free of context.

The way to fight these bastards is to tease and annoy them until the admit their ridiculousness.  Liberals have to have smarts, not just ideas.

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By tom cady, February 25, 2007 at 3:38 am Link to this comment
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it looked so easy
our heritage beckoned
the nation was, after all, christian

and so they began their crusade
marching toward theocracy

and as they plodded
the children wailed
are we there yet?

and god whispered
you’re going the wrong way

tc

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By John Cunningham, February 25, 2007 at 1:57 am Link to this comment
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Yes, Bukko, I, from ‘76-81, drove a taxi in Philadelphia.  From ‘86-‘94 drove a taxi in Buffalo, NY.  Then from ‘97-‘02 drove a taxi in Niagara Falls, NY.  Been there, done that.  Can you say 24/7 six days a week familiarity?  Did two years in Vietnam, harbor absolutely no ill will toward Vietnamese, in spite of one of those years I was in the Infantry. The fourth gun to the head in Nov ‘02 got me to ‘hang up my keys’.  I’ve been on the business side of rifles and guns a lot, you never get used to it.  I’m now retired living in a Philadelphia outer suburb.  I don’t have to ride around in the gauntlet that surrounds Center City Philadelphia.  I take the train downtown. By the way, did manage three R&R’s in Sydney, ‘68, ‘70 and ‘71.  My Eurabian experience was one Return of Forces to Germany exercise I did when I joined the NY National Guard in ‘84.  We flew over to Amsterdam, got our equipment off the ship and then drove to Alsfeld, West Germany.  Oh, how things have changed.  At least the communists didn’t hide behind women and children and the IRA would call in their bombings to Scotland Yard.  Unfortunately was only there for a month.  Did two weeks a year later on a Keep Up exercise.  The most exciting thing I did was six round trips from Alsfeld, 75k north east of Frankfurt legally driving 100mph.  Some of the hills I couldn’t maintain 100 and had to get out of the way of the BMWs and all those other neat German cars that had plenty of peddle to maintain 120mph.  I was in a VW Vanagon.  What a trusting government that let’s their citizens when they get away from the cities drive at whatever speed you feel you can do. So you’re saying it’s just disaffected ‘yutes’ (the American version sets things on fire also) that have determined that the French police don’t patrol certain parts of Paris.  I dare say the Philadelphia police haven’t surrendered North and West Philadelphia to the insurgency. So much for our War on Poverty, all we got are a bunch of baggy pants running around grabbing themselves like a bunch of two year olds that have to go to the bathroom.  As I said all I presently know about Eurabia I get through the majic of a PC.  So, then I guess you’re all set to hit the prayer rug five times a day.  I for one want to keep my non-practicing Catholic head right where it is.

Frank, while I lived in Western New York for that 23 years I got to know many Native Americans.  With all the crap we gave them they have managed to come away as being a class act.  Wonderful group of people.  It’s funny, they call Columbus Day Invasion Day.

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By Frank, February 24, 2007 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment
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To Rod of comment #33035…
I bet you celebrate Columbus day don’t you?
And you hate it when people bash Columbus for being a tyrant.
Columbus, the person who claimed to discover a land where people where waving at him from the shore.

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By Bukko in Australia, February 24, 2007 at 6:28 pm Link to this comment
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John Cunningham, have you ever traveled to “Eurabia” as you call it? Especially recently? Tell me, what do you imagine it to be?

My wife and I go to France every other year or so, and we also trip into Amsterdam, northern Italy and other Western European countries. We spend a lot of time in Paris when we’re there. The “banlieus” (housing projects) in the suburbs or Paris certainly look different to the Deuxieme Arrondissement, but when I drive a rental car through them, I don’t feel endangered like I did when I accidentally drove through crack-market neighbourhoods in the U.S. In A’dam, heart of a country where there was the notorious Muslim terror murder of Theo van Gogh, there are Muslims all over the red-light districts. They run the restaurants that stoners stumble into after hitting the hashish bars. I feel less threatened by them than the African and Anglo-Saxon dope dealers who stand in the shadows and cough the word “cocaine?” when I walk by.

In my current city of Melbourne, there are suburbs like Brunswick on the north side of town that are heavily Turkish and Lebanese. Some women walk around in the veil, some in hijab, and some in tank tops. (It’s blood hot here now!) On the trams, Muslim men with Osama-style beards sit next to tattooed, pierced punks. Same on the Paris Metro, BTW.

Have you ever been around Muslims, other than the one who scared you so much in Philly, John? I’m a hospital nurse, so I literally wipe their arses. They’re not that dfifferent to anyone else. Not all of them are pleasant people, but sick people never are, including the whites. Same for the riotous suburbs of Paris—poor people are pissed off and they tend to fark stuff up, no matter what colour they are or where they live. Do you feel “amazed” in the bad black neighbourhoods in the City of Brotherly Shove, or the hostile redneck hamlets of northern Alabama?

Getting back to fascism, which was the subject of this article, the more that people hate whole groups and nations out of blind prejudice, the easier it is for fascists to say “Let’s kill all of them!”

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By Jim Yell, February 24, 2007 at 7:46 am Link to this comment
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I have always objected to the rise of “privatization” in our government. I have been surprised that little is made of the prior claim that giving our medical care to “private” corporations would led to control of inflated medical cost, when in fact it has done no such thing. So the question is how did we get to such a place where Military operations, prison management, etc (don’t forget education) been allowed to go private?

The business about “white power” is sadly true, but is not all of the problem. The implication of this claim ignores that paternalism of the right is not restricted to “whites”. It is at heart of the groups that are now moving into the country. What makes “White Supreme” so un-nerving at this time is its rise in the military and Republican government. It is likely to destroy the peace of mind of the very group it is supposed to raise up. Support for it is hyper inflated by the loss of control of our borders and an ill advised dynamic that has the established population of the country forced to accomodate the new residents at the expense of our culture, such as it is.

I am torn by my feeling that we need social progressiveness to survive and a feeling that we should not be allowing things that amount to social and cultural suicide. We do not have to allow ourselves to be occupied by people who have over populated their own countries and certainly not allow them to dictate the culture they have moved into.

Looking at the world wide response to population and responsible business practice, I see the same non contructive behavior that allowed the Roman System to collapse. A grasping for wealth without responsibility and taking short term solutions to growing threats. We should tend to our own house and let the rest of the world to its own devices.

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By John Hanks, February 23, 2007 at 8:39 pm Link to this comment
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When lower middle class persons become rich they often pander to parts of society with lower middle class values.  Those values include the seven deadly sins and others which are real human weaknesses.  As long as people are half-baked and half educated lower middle class (Fascist) values will have an irresistable appeal.

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By John Cunningham, February 23, 2007 at 5:35 am Link to this comment
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Bukko and Skruff.  We’re not terrified but we are sitting in amazement when we, through the magic of PC’s, see what is going on in Eurabia.  How did they manage to allow themselves to be surrounded in their cities?  The worse scene is in France where a considerable part of France has for all intent and purpose been handed over to the seething mushrooms, I mean muslims.  The police do not patrol those areas, no go zones.  We do look in amazement when what looks to be a man in a berka, traveling stealth, gets on the Market Street Subway here in Philadelphia.  The male member of the species would rather blow himself up than get stuck at home with the kids.  Maybe it’s just a big city thing.

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By Bukko in Australia, February 22, 2007 at 7:50 am Link to this comment
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Skruff: on this thread and others, you gotta stop talking so much sense, mate. Where would the overall level of discussion be without delusions and wingnuttery? wink

I took statistics in college. Seemed an easy way to bag one of the math requirements for my liberal arts degree. Damned if I didn’t learn some things! Funny how a broad-based university education will do that to you. STAT 101 is why I don’t play the lottery, for instance.

I wonder what percentage of Americans literally DOES fear thst they PERSONALLY will be killed by terrorists. And what percentage believes that Muslims can take over the United States and make all women wear burqas? (If they took over and converted the men, they’d have to be circumcised, but Americans are so ignorant of Muslim customs they don’t realise that. If they did, watch out!)

It’s probably a minority with those fears, but it’s an important minority. Because they’re the only people whose opinions President Cheney cares about. As long as he’s got them skeered and sheeple-ing into line, he and the media can pretend that Americans support the incompetent fascists that they are.

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By Skruff, February 21, 2007 at 2:33 pm Link to this comment
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“Terrorism”

What does this mean?

Show of hands:

How many of you folks are “terrified” that some Arab will kill you and/or your family?

Second show of hands:

How many US residents are “terrified” everytime they get behind the wheel of their family sedan, knowing 44,000 people in the US are killed in auto accidents each year?

Third show of hands:

How many of you are “terrified” by the thought of losing everything you owe, being tossed out on the street, after your boss outsources your job?

Do folks still learn “percentages” in school?

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By John Cunningham, February 21, 2007 at 11:20 am Link to this comment
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Dear The Jay Mick,

I’m not sure how to respond.  Is your unemployment about to run out or look who got up on the wrong side of the rock.

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By The Jay Mick, February 21, 2007 at 1:03 am Link to this comment
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The Revolution Has Started

For the past few years I have written on the fascist overthrow of the American democracy and I have learned that revolution is unavoidable. We are being led into an entire new culture without even a fight. Our privacy is completely gone and we accept that the government is lying to us. Most of us know that the American government is using unethical methods to gain further control over the people, but nothing is done. Fear and manipulation has been used create public conformity into acceptance of all government actions. However, I have also learned that our government’s control over us is very weak and susceptible to revolution. The fascist American pseudo-dictatorship has attempted to pass laws in order to pressure further control over the herds. These new “law” are meaningless. We the people must ignore there legitimacy and provoke usage of these false regulations. Time for revolution is upon us and our victory is inevitable.

We must not fear our government; it is our government who must fear us. We can decide how things are run simply by majority rule. We must decide now how we want things to be done in this country. We must provoke action to be taken against us; it is then we will create a public stage through use of media attention. Their control over us can be used against them. It is our duty to act any way we choose fit, so if we want to keep our privacy then flood “Big Brother” with overloads of misinformation and send them on wild goose chases. However, civil disobedience is not the only shape the revolution must take; it is essential that we unite through inspiration. Revolution can be successful in smaller numbers when people are truly committed to each other.

It is also essential that we must not fear terrorism. Terrorism has always existed in the world, but it has only been since the events of 9/11 that we have made it such a large part of our lives. Fighting terrorism through war is pointless; we can not kill every lunatic that uses mass murder to fight for what they believe. The American Fascist Alliance is simply creating more and more people who will disagree with American politics to their death. We can not hate on those who use violence against America as a public display of disobedience, because one day violence may be the only thing the American people can do to save its democracy. We the people must open communications with these radical opposes of American politics to gain better understanding of each other.

We must gain a better understanding of the people behind ‘terrorist’ acts of violence and learn how we can use them to save our democracy. Bin Laden simply had an extremely poor method of retaliation as his way to fight unethical American politics. He foolishly attacked his greatest ally and helped the fascist American elite cloud the people into believing a false reality. Terrorist are poorly educated freedom fighters that use methods which inevitably backfire. Terrorism is just a term that the fascist American elite is twisting in order to broaden its usage to define all forms of disobedience. We must not go to these Eastern cultures to kill, but instead we must reach out to them as the American people and unite. Our fascist American government is speaking for us, even when a majority of us do not support them. The mid-eastern people are just like us and we share similar goals. Our revolution does not only have support here in this country, but also has the support of nearly every country in the entire world.

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By THE JAY MICK, February 20, 2007 at 11:16 pm Link to this comment
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And that is the key, isn’t it? Our revolution is not only essential in saving the American democracy; rather it is vital in saving the entire world. The term terrorism may soon very well be used to label American people who fight for revolution, but we must not let meaningless labels deter our methods or goals. Let them wear out the term with over usage. Give them what they want and state, “We are terrorist!” However, we will terrify the fascist elite with intelligence, unity, and civil disobedience rather then explosives and hate. If the “terrorist”, who we are in war with now, learn that they have allies here in American then that will help create safety from terrorist attacks. We can secure a safety that our lying imperialist government fails to achieve with their war-mongering. We can also open discussions between the mid-eastern “terrorist” in order to teach them more successful forms of disobedience. I have constantly searched for ways to inspire a united majority here in America, but I was not thinking globally. Majority support for the revolution is already overwhelming throughout the world. We can seek foreign media to help give legs to the revolution. Media of the countries that we bully may salivate over helping the American revolutionist. 

  The theme of this admittedly scattered expose is that we can say what we want because we are protected by the right of Free Speech. The government must recognize the revolution because it has officially started. So far we are left ignored, but that has only intensified our efforts. The time for revolution is here; the wheels are in motion. I promise I shall provoke action taken against me which will be supported by laws regulated by the American fascist regime. It is time to get power for the youthful generations in America. It is time; VIVA LA REVOLUTION!                                   
                                                              -By: The Illustrious Jay Mick

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By THE JAY MICK, February 20, 2007 at 11:15 pm Link to this comment
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The Revolution Has Started

  For the past few years I have written on the fascist overthrow of the American democracy and I have learned that revolution is unavoidable. We are being led into an entire new culture without even a fight. Our privacy is completely gone and we accept that the government is lying to us. Most of us know that the American government is using unethical methods to gain further control over the people, but nothing is done. Fear and manipulation has been used create public conformity into acceptance of all government actions. However, I have also learned that our government’s control over us is very weak and susceptible to revolution. The fascist American pseudo-dictatorship has attempted to pass laws in order to pressure further control over the herds. These new “law” are meaningless. We the people must ignore there legitimacy and provoke usage of these false regulations. Time for revolution is upon us and our victory is inevitable.

  We must not fear our government; it is our government who must fear us. We can decide how things are run simply by majority rule. We must decide now how we want things to be done in this country. We must provoke action to be taken against us; it is then we will create a public stage through use of media attention. Their control over us can be used against them. It is our duty to act any way we choose fit, so if we want to keep our privacy then flood “Big Brother” with overloads of misinformation and send them on wild goose chases. However, civil disobedience is not the only shape the revolution must take; it is essential that we unite through inspiration. Revolution can be successful in smaller numbers when people are truly committed to each other.

  It is also essential that we must not fear terrorism. Terrorism has always existed in the world, but it has only been since the events of 9/11 that we have made it such a large part of our lives. Fighting terrorism through war is pointless; we can not kill every lunatic that uses mass murder to fight for what they believe. The American Fascist Alliance is simply creating more and more people who will disagree with American politics to their death. We can not hate on those who use violence against America as a public display of disobedience, because one day violence may be the only thing the American people can do to save its democracy. We the people must open communications with these radical opposes of American politics to gain better understanding of each other.

  We must gain a better understanding of the people behind ‘terrorist’ acts of violence and learn how we can use them to save our democracy. Bin Laden simply had an extremely poor method of retaliation as his way to fight unethical American politics. He foolishly attacked his greatest ally and helped the fascist American elite cloud the people into believing a false reality. Terrorist are poorly educated freedom fighters that use methods which inevitably backfire. Terrorism is just a term that the fascist American elite is twisting in order to broaden its usage to define all forms of disobedience. We must not go to these Eastern cultures to kill, but instead we must reach out to them as the American people and unite. Our fascist American government is speaking for us, even when a majority of us do not support them. The mid-eastern people are just like us and we share similar goals. Our revolution does not only have support here in this country, but also has the support of nearly every country in the entire world.

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By Frank Goodman, Sr., February 8, 2007 at 7:16 am Link to this comment
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Ref: Comment #51015 by Jay Mick on 2/01

Unity of purpose does not guarantee a happy choice. It is unity of purpose that the Fascist uses to bring about his own design. The leader who can discern the hopes and fears of his constituents and act to keep them focused on the hopes and fears, leads rather than follows by leading youth where it wishes to go.

The wise leader would lead his people to the threshold of their own knowledge of right and wrong and then accept the leadership of the democratic choice to govern wisely and well.

Well informed people can make their own choices without leaders. Well motivated people can set their own goals and well educated people can succeed in the struggle for life. It is the weak and the uncertain who must be led by example rather than by fear of consequences. When there are two sides to a question, with certainty on both sides, conflict follows. Left to chance alone, the choice will be as often wrong as right. The only model is the successful choices of past leaders. The lesson in history is the wrong choices, not the right ones. The right choices should be clear.

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By Jay Mick, February 1, 2007 at 8:30 am Link to this comment
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It has become that time when the youth of this country needs to make it evident that when united it is we who hold the true power. Unified we can demand our government to recognize that their existence is to make the people happy. We are young, strong, fast, and brave and then when collectively motivated by youthful ambition, we can become a force with the ability to take away power from the small economic elite. It is us who fight their wars and us who die protecting their security. A motivated, unified youthful generation is a dishonest government’s worst fear. Government relies on separating us so we are easier to use as their pawns. It is the young men and women of this country whose civic duty is to destroy the growing movement of fascist acceptance. It is us who will be suffering in the fascist police state wondering what happened to all our rights. However, if we take action to unify as a group we can be a powerful instrument of fear. All we need is the proper motivation to tell us that we have tremendous power if utilized correctly. Regardless of political view points we should unify based on a generation alliance. We can shift the power away from the small power elite and give ourselves better options for our future. A majority of support would be given to us by the middle to lower classes. It is they who will continue to suffer the most by the negative evolution that our government has recently foretoken. All that is needed is the motivation to help them realize that if they can unite, then it is their majority power that can control the government. Separating ourselves based on life experiences rather than political point of views offers an opportunity to gain a level of power that presently is unattainable.
To fight fascism someone must take a first step toward the beginning of civil disobedience, which will bring change. So I will publicly state that if the Patriot Act (or anything thing similar) is ever passed in this country, then there will be no boundaries which will stop me to actively disobey and fight this wicked evasion of privacy. This “Act” is a condensed example of everything that has begun to threaten the individual rights that we should cherish forever. This Act is the first step to take the social norms that have recently evolved into our country and begin to make them law. No form of punishment shall ever make me concede to accept this law. Perhaps this attempt by me to spark some revolutionary flame may be even be considered treason and I could be considered a homegrown terrorist for what I say. That still will never change my beliefs and will never stop me from fighting fascism. It is time we show our political strength and stomp out fascism before its too late.      By: Jay Mick

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By Jay Mick, February 1, 2007 at 8:29 am Link to this comment
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Anti-Fascist Movement in the USA(first draft)
I am 25 years old now and I noticed my generation knows nothing in understanding war or politics. We live as sheep walking invisible paths that our fathers and grandfathers created to lead us into blindness. Our fathers sent us to war in Iraq based on intangibles that they felt we did not deserve to understand. Our fathers and the father’s of our fathers are brainwashed by an undying patriotic fog created by years of wartime motivational necessity. They no longer see personal differences of what our government considers our enemy. Our fathers focus only on lifestyle differences and a misguided belief in our government’s honesty in order to rationalize any war.  We have no one to seek the truth from, because we do not even know a truth exists. However, there is a truth and it is more disturbing then any that our country has faced in the past. It is a truth that shall spawn my generation’s first true war. However, we do not need to send our brothers and friends across an ocean to die, because the battleground has made its way right to our doorstep and even into the confused minds of a changing country’s citizens.
    Fascism, something once despised by all countries of decent morality, has found its way to the United States. This is no longer just a term, symbolizing evil, which we read about in books. It is now a deadly reality that we have refused to notice and even welcomed with open arms. The youth of this country (the collegians, soldiers, athletes, and blossoming graduates) is weak and gullible. We are blind-wanderers walking in a landmine field where we have made ourselves dependent on people feeding us unreliable direction. We are so hypnotized by the daily routine of our lives that we allow our government to filter our news. We let them use fear to conform us into easily manageable zombies. We let them manipulate their way into costly wars without demanding the truth. Overtime we have watched a small economic elite gain power in every level of government and progressively misuse power. The polarization between political parties has made them forget their essential need for one another. Both sides start relying on negative stereotypes and media attacks to belittle each other’s views all while forgetting they are both representing a nearly equal half of the American public. They use an issue such as terrorism and twist it to slowly slip more and more power away from the people. We have allowed these things to slowly become cultural norms while forgetting that we once had a name for this newly evolving government; Fascism. It’s hard to imagine we have walked so listlessly into a world where the people are treated like cattle. However, just as easily as we got to this point we can still make thing right.

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By Bert, January 17, 2007 at 4:05 pm Link to this comment
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Sounds like a bunch of crap to me. They only stopped eating people in the polynesian island chain about 80 years ago, and as far as atrocities go, let’s talk Stalin, Hitler, and so forth. I think people flip the race card around in our country anymore to see how far it’ll fly, and how much money they can make off of betting where it lands.

If one thing’s missing, it’s a discussion of how to get people psyched around the idea of going out and starting a business. Difficult? Yes. Worthy endeavor? Absolutely. Long-overdue? Quite likely. Is running a business a universal panacea? Hell, no. Neither are do-gooder social policies, nor, for that matter, does an education inoculate you from the cruel twists and turns of fate or other peoples’ ignorance and prejudice, or, for that matter, even your own. But, some of the items above might, just might, steer people down a better path, something marginally more positive and rewarding. You just never know.

I think I’d cry ‘ignorance’ or ‘apathy’ before ‘fascism’, people use what’s in front of em, be it the salt shaker,lead-based paint, or a copy of Mein Kampf. And, if anything, your parents have a major influence on how you’ll grow up in the world. But, at the same time, it’s important to recognize that yes, people are different, and cultures vary widely, and the worst thing you can do is try to gloss over them. Better to explore and understand, but at the same time avoid long and unproductive guilt trips.
Anyone can be vicious, lie, cheat, steal, and kill, whether they dress just like you or run naked with a bone through their noses, or have a billion dollars and a helper to brush their teeth. You don’t know people until you know em,
so don’t let a glossy paint job fool you, nor a couple dents and scrapes throw you off. See the world through your own eyes, if you really want to understand people, pay close attention to what they do and say, but don’t let them tell you what to do or say, or how to think, or what to think, or when to think it. Be independent in your actions and your judgements, and reserve that last bit for the very very very last, because likely even then it’s still premature. A little forgiveness goes a long way, but so can helping others once you do learn their faults(yes, we all have em), and likewise you might be enlightened as to your own shortcomings. And, if you’re really really lucky, maybe you’ll make a friend.
Or, forget to look both ways before crossing, and get cruelly mowed down by the 5:30 crosstown bus.
Life is what it is, think for yourself.

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By 131488WOLF131488, January 12, 2007 at 7:22 am Link to this comment
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Read “The Rise of Fascism”, by F.L. Carsten (1967)...What could have been going through those “Nazi’s” minds???
In The Awakening of White America (THE WHITE WORLD!!!), Wolf in the mud-pit formerly known as Massachusetts. 14/88!!!

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By marie2, January 11, 2007 at 11:52 am Link to this comment
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Instead of focusing on possibilities for fascism we should be looking towards diversity and helping the people of our world.  President Bush’s speech on January 10, 2007 proposed sending 20,000 more troops to Iraq while only 12% of Americans agree with his plan.  The United States has already spent approximately $350 billion on Iraq.  We need to be putting these resources to issues such as global poverty which was one of the top ten United Nations Millennium Development Goals created in 2000 by a large gathering of global leaders.  We should tell our representatives that it is in everyone’s best interest to undertake this issue.

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By ryan brown, December 22, 2006 at 7:58 pm Link to this comment
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http://www.fascistamerica.net

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By Skruff, November 29, 2006 at 6:05 am Link to this comment
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“nothing” occasionally has benefit.


“Nothing ain’t worth nothing, but its free”

with appologies to Janis Joplin

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By John Cunningham, November 28, 2006 at 1:12 pm Link to this comment
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Skruff, you can refine things to such a degree you’ll eventually have nothing left.

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By Skruff, November 28, 2006 at 6:33 am Link to this comment
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Doc says…“We were all sworn to defend”

Truthfully, I never took any oath to “defend” anything or anyone.

but

You bring up a good point. Maybe we should all be asked about our choice of “citizenship” upon reaching majority?  The accidential geography of our birth should not “grant” us anything, except the ability to live with parents until we are old enough to make legal choice.

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By John Cunningham, November 27, 2006 at 8:36 pm Link to this comment
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Scruff and Doc, dear people, I feel we’re reading from different pages of the same ‘book’ at the same time.

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By DOC, November 27, 2006 at 3:27 pm Link to this comment
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We were all sworn to defend, and never relieved of our duty; to defend the law of the republic for which we stand.

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By Skruff, November 27, 2006 at 7:59 am Link to this comment
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OOps! you have made a mistake John.. You’ve got me mislabled. 

Anti government means anti ALL government even Khruschev’s

I’m an anarchist of the barter and exchange variety. Weak folks need government, but such government only weakens the heard.

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By John Cunningham, November 26, 2006 at 12:01 pm Link to this comment
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Dear Skruff, you sound disappointed that Khruschev didn’t get to bury us.  We’re alive and he’s not.

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By Skruff, November 25, 2006 at 3:44 pm Link to this comment
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May I suggest you two folks take your personal vendetta to email?

You are spoiling the discussion and sowing the seeds of Fascism

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By John Cunningham, November 24, 2006 at 12:08 pm Link to this comment
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Yo, Walker, your speech sounds like a cross between something like Hugo Chavez and when Khruschev pounded his shoe at the UN.

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By TAO Walker, November 24, 2006 at 1:49 am Link to this comment
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Sorry, John Cunningham.  I didn’t realize you’ve only been ‘talking’ in your sleep.  I wouldn’t have disturbed your slumber for even a minute, otherwise.  So dream on, my friend.  Those all-seeing eyes of yours clearly can do with a rest.  Because the world you might finally wake up in won’t look anything like the place you’re imagining yourself in right now.  Don’t worry, though.  That’s a good thing.

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By John Cunningham, November 23, 2006 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment
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But then Walker, on second thought, you’re not a Mexican government official hiding behind your computer, are you?  Like I posted earlier, you have to stop trying to run off your poor by promising them that we’ll set them up with a casino.  We only give our original inhabitants a casino.  You might think we think ‘they’ all look a like.  But, we do have eyes.  Come on Mexico, spread out the oil money.  You’re acting just like a bunch of middle eastern governments.  What ever happened to the days when the neighborhood kid cut the lawn, he was underbid by an illegal.

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By John Cunningham, November 23, 2006 at 12:40 pm Link to this comment
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Dear TAO Walker,  you’re in severe need of counseling.  Take care

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By TAO Walker, November 23, 2006 at 2:19 am Link to this comment
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Well, hell, John Cunningham.  Times are hard everywhere.  Good you’ve got some ties to this place, however short-term.  Better, though, if you open up those eyes and ears and learn finally just exactly where is the “here” that you’re at.  Believe me, those “Mayans” and “Aztecs” you are evidently so upset about do know exactly where “here” is, unlike your roughshod-riding forebears, who were then, as you are yourself still today, pretty much raw recruits to this multi-milennial war against the world of your birth (and fighting, unfortunately, for the wrong side, to boot).  None of us holds any of that against you, though.  You’ve been had, John, and are right now being taken for a ride by forces your eyes are blind and your ears deaf to. You’re a captive to the self-interest of ruthless gangsters who rule you by fear, and who will sacrifice you and your brothers-in-arms to the requirements of their ‘project’ without blinking an eye.  They’re doing it right this minute.  So maybe a little real education right about now might do you more harm than good, for a change. Those copper-toned faces coming up from the south mean you no harm.  Their brothers and sisters already here who’ve come through Europe’s genocidal onslaught, with their integrity and their memories intact, aren’t your enemies, either.  But we know who is, Johnny.  And we know they mean you no good.  So who ye gonna call….the Department of Homeland Security?....the Defense Department?....the Department of Justice?  And keep in-mind you may get only one call.  Make it count, amigo.

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By John Cunningham, November 22, 2006 at 7:14 pm Link to this comment
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What the f*** you say.  I have eyes, I have ears.  Part of me’s been here since ’ 1887, the other part from 1910.  Mc and Polack, tell me all about it.

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By John Cunningham, November 22, 2006 at 6:54 pm Link to this comment
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Hey, I got eyes, I got ears, what the f*** you talking about?  Theories, theories, evertbody’s got theories.  A little less educatin’, a little more lookin’.

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By TAO Walker, November 22, 2006 at 1:58 pm Link to this comment
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If John Cunningham and others obsessed with the “illegal immigrant problem” want some well-grounded perspective (on the situation’s historic and even pre-historic antecedents, as well as it’s immediate manifestations), they might take a good hard look at Leslie Silko’s “Almanac of the Dead.”  There are elements at-play in this living world next to whom the pretentious delusions driving the cult of ‘western civilization’ shrink to the miniscule temporary aberrations that their uniformly deleterious effects (on those infected with them) have always shown them to be, to the rest of us. And if such fear-ridden “carriers” of this wannabe “global” disease would like a look at the dead-certain consequences of turning the whole U.S. into a “gated community,” they can check-out “The Masque of the Red Death,” by Edgar Allen Poe, or “The Plague,” by Albert Camus.  Your behind-the-scenes ‘owners’ and their fear-mongering overseers are stampeding you ruthlessly into their urban feedlots placed strategically next-door to the slaughterhouses of “perpetual war for perpetual peace,” sheeple.  And this time, as Boss Cheney has bragged, it’s “full speed ahead,” no matter what the “voters” do. If you keep runnin’ scared they mean to run you to death.  Better, instead, you start running-down the flaws in your national character that’ve got you “here and now boys” to the brink of self-inflicted extinction. You might start with your carefully contrived but none-the-less woeful ignorance of your own complicity in the murderous rampage still being perpetrated upon the natives, human and others, of Turtle and Hummingbird Islands. Is this the best of times, the worst of times, THE END of times, or what?

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By John Cunningham, November 22, 2006 at 4:12 am Link to this comment
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Yes, Amigo, we could start with the Mexican government.

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By AMIGO, November 21, 2006 at 10:58 am Link to this comment
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Listen up everybody! We have all vented our feelings repeatedly over the past few years (and especially,in the last two weeks)
Now is the time to take action in order to make sure, the past six years is NOT repeated!
Let us all keep sending E-mails to our Dem Senators and Congress men/women to:
1] Start HEARINGS / INVESTIGATIONS on the war
2] Push for PAPER RECEIPTS on all votes cast in ALL elections in ALL FIFTY STATES.
That should be a good starting point! 
Any thaughts ?

p.s. Let us not waste any more precious time trying to debate,hopeless right-wing, nut-jobs like Hondo

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By John Cunningham, November 21, 2006 at 8:53 am Link to this comment
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Reading comment 38277 by Derek reminds me of something.  Is it just me or does anyone else notice that the pictures of the faces of our illegal problem here in the US is made up of people that resemble our Native Americans.  No doubt the Europeans that settled this part of North America did run rough shod over the original inhabitants we found.  Though it has gone in fits and starts the US and Canadian governments have been trying to make amends.  My point.  Are we witnessing an ethnic cleansing on the part of the oil rich Mexican government?  Those that run Mexico look like the descendents of the Spainish European settlers.  Is it possible that they’re making life as difficult as possible for the descendents of the Aztecs and Mayans to stay ‘home’ thereby driving them north.  They don’t want to share in the oil riches or Mexico.  What’s Mexico doing with all the money we pay them for the oil we buy?  Maybe the Mexican government told the descendents of the Aztecs and Mayans to head north, the Americans will set you up in a casino.

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By Bukko in Australia, November 20, 2006 at 8:05 pm Link to this comment
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Hondo’s blog can be found at ChristianConservatives.blogspot.com I’ll warn you, it’s boring and repetitious. I even stopped snarking at him there, after he stopped bloviating here. Waste of time. So shhhhhh! Let sleeping doofuses lie. I hesitate to even write this in case he’s got auto-notification turned on…

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By Dutch, November 20, 2006 at 6:56 pm Link to this comment
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Total bunk and nothing more than left wing angst and paranoia. “White male patriarchal culture”? Now where have I heard that term before?  Oh, yeah, from feminist historians who blame all the world’s problems on the White Man. In their world view all minorities are like innocent flower children sullied by white oppression. Go to some of the White Studies sites and see true racism at work. Those bleating left wingers are hoping that Lenin will awaken from his slumber to guide the ignorant masses toward nirvana.

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By Marty Didier, November 20, 2006 at 3:43 pm Link to this comment
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Stan Goff, I enjoyed your article.  Since being in a family for more than 26 who joined Organized Crime shortly after I married, I had a front row seat with learning about corruption and crime and the US. Although my view is a little different than yours, it offers another perspective to why we have all these problems.

The Organized Crime system that my ex-wife’s family joined wasn’t any ordinary Crime system.  They are sometimes referred to “The Government within our Government”, “Political Crime Outfit” and may others.  I know this group is linked from lower Government areas on up to the highest level in our Federal Government.  Of course, not everyone is involved, but there are huge numbers of people involved.  One is the Illuminati’s who are expected to represent about 1-2% of our population, which is anywhere from 3-6million people.  A little research on who and what these people are about should surface some interesting facts for the reader.  Just after marrying, I was asked to join the FreeMasons but I declined because I felt pushed and didn’t understand why.  The reason came out later as it was the family that wanted me to join.  Looking back, I’m glad I didn’t join.  As I understand it, the FreeMasons, have a link to the Illuminati’s which also have links to the MOB who also have links to the CIA, DEA and others.  My life’s experience in this family crosses with many National News Scandals involving Political Corruption and the MOB.  Luckily that I didn’t get involved in some of these other offerings also.  I may have ended up like Gus Boulis.

My ex-in-laws are in Property Development and often said “They wouldn’t ever have been able to build their business big, UNLESS they joined.  Plus, everyone is involved”!  Of course by saying “Everyone is involved” they really mean that the “RIGHT” people are involved but again, the amount of “RIGHT” people involves more than many. 

There are MOB links all through this and the MOB is linked to Banking that goes all the way up to include the largest Bank in the World.  We know it as something different than what it is supposed to be.  This has been alleged for years but is sadly the truth. 

Our Political process is cluttered with this problem, as I was told by the family that out of every 10 people involved, 7 are Republicans and 3 are Democrats.  Hence, many have speculated that both parties have a similar problem and this is more true than anyone would think.  It isn’t ONLY about corruption, it’s about something else. 

Stan, I’m afraid from my experience that our problems are much larger than skin heads and others who reject authority.  I know it to be far larger than this.

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By GOGOGEO, November 20, 2006 at 12:20 pm Link to this comment
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Hondo, what happend to you? Did the Evil (Liberal) Atheist Conspiracy get you?

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By Skruff, November 19, 2006 at 11:09 am Link to this comment
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There’s a huge problem with “class cutting” in the US today.  The P.C. mogals would have us believe the black underclass comprises most, if not all of the poor in The USA. 

When one gets beyond precentages (which are meaningless when defining pockets of poverty) they will find that the largest number of poor folks in these United States are white.

The children I worked with in Worcester’s “white ghetto” (on the city’s south side)were poor. not only did they lack the possessions of middle-class America, they lacked hope, spirit, and family.  Of course children (white black, male or female) seem to play no part in Stan Goff’s manifesto on the culturaal divide. He tells us of the death of Randy Weaver’s wife, but skips the murder of his son, Sammy age 14, who was killed by a shot to his back. Sammy had fired on “unknowns” who had opened fire on Sammy’s dog.

Sort-of-like the economy of central Massachusetts opening fire on the youngsters in Main South in the 1970’s.

I guess that we (all of us) pretty much reap what we sow.

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By sbenjamins, November 17, 2006 at 7:33 pm Link to this comment
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By all means if it is the expressed purpose of the administration to fight them over there, take our worst racist thugs and leave them there to die in the quagmire; trouble is, there are good kids there, by an accident of bad-timing and being lied to and lied about. Make no mistake Bushes ass is in this too far, even our Dems don’t want the depth of it exposed. Too much an international crime to be atoned for with out a heavy penalty, at the same time facing a foreign debt that is the starter pistol for the next worldwide depression. Good Luck People, you are going to need it.

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By sharon ash, November 17, 2006 at 11:11 am Link to this comment
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The elections on November 7, slowed the hemorrhage in our government but our problems are far from being over.  There are millions of Americans who fell in love with the purveyors of Fascism in this administration and their elite club of “us” against “them” with the “them” including any American who refused to fall in lockstep with this movement.  Americans who want to retain our Constitutional rights and want to move back toward a more democratic form of government, must not be lured into thinking the problems have been solved.  The snake has had to recoil, but with its head still very much intact.

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By Derek, November 16, 2006 at 1:39 am Link to this comment
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Where are the open borders people when it comes to Brazil, Mexico, Japan, Switzerland, Mali, Indonesia and the rest of the world.  The US already has the most lenient immigration policy in the WORLD.  Why aren’t you crying about countries that DO have more strict immigration laws?  I’m not in a good situation job-wise etc. so can I stay at your house Stan.  If you want open borders than you should be fine with me coming over.

I think women are a great asset in the work force.  They help enrich society.  I have no problem working with women or having them as superiors. 

Not a nary word about gay people.  Somehow that was “overlooked”.  Gay people are a target for fascists/supremacists as well.

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By Bukko in Australia, November 15, 2006 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment
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Heya Female Voice, don’t let criticism from strangers bother you. It’s just little black marks on a glowing screen!

And isn’t Zurich SUCH a well-run place? So clean and efficient… The Swiss ought to run the world. They probably DO, they just allow the rest of us to think that we’re doing it.

Getting back to fascism, how come the Swiss haven’t gone in that direction? They are insular, have a strong Germanic heritage and a society that focuses on “ordnung.” Plus they had a VIOLENT history. Seems a fertile ground for the F-word. What’s different to them and the U.S.?

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By Female Voice, November 15, 2006 at 1:52 pm Link to this comment
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Dear Mr. Goff:

My guess is that the reason that there aren’t more female voices in this comment list is because, generally speaking, females tend to prefer listening-to rather than giving stump speeches. Thank you Peggy for stressing the importance of listening.

However, after listening to (i.e., reading…carefully) some of the long-winded ramblings here, I barely have the strength to respond, even though MOST of the posts here have SOMETHING in them that I can agree with, even those from the NUTS.

Personally, I believe that some kind of reasonable post length limit would probably result in an increase in posts from women and girls simply by reducing reader fatigue. Of course, some of you probably think that 2000 words is “reasonable”. Start yer own BLOG!

As for my feelings on your article, Mr. Goff. I find it to be well-thought-out and frightening. As for some of the comments to your article, I am particularly struck by the number of U.S. “refugees” who responded, of which I am one.

[Perhaps, we almost ran into each other in Zurich, Mr. Bukko.]

I guess I got tired of hearing all the talk.

However, if you want to know my thoughts on the alternative, i.e., action, look what happened to the Republican and Democratic National Convention protesters. Look what happened to the Anti-Globalization protesters in Florida. I am not ready to sacrifice my life or health for what I see as an increasingly poorly educated (although often well-schooled) populace, who probably would effect some even worse alternative after throwing off their fascist yoke, assuming that is even possible. And I am not sure it is. At least not until ALL the oil runs out and there is no way to run the “machine” except by human slave power.

Best of luck to you all.

By the way. I can’t really handle criticism from anonymous strangers, and therefore, I hope that no one feels that I have picked on them or personally singled them out (except perhaps the really long-winded ones) so as to merit any personal insults or retaliation. Unless of course, this is a BOYS ONLY! GIRLS KEEP OUT! treehouse and punishment is pulling my pigtails.

By the way, I also own a gun.

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By TAO Walker, November 14, 2006 at 12:17 pm Link to this comment
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Re: #37716 by Doug Cunningham.  Stan’s article and Mr. Cunningham’s comment capture the very essence of The Rule of Fear. Keeping its subjects convinced they’re all alone in their misery is critical to sustaining its hold over much of humanity in these latter days.  It had long been a mystery to me that so many self-confessed Christians, who are told in so many words, “Be not afraid,” are running both scared and amok in the world these days. Then it finally dawned on me that fear of endless suffering, as punishment for failing to come up to some supposedly divine standard, is the driving force and dogmatic foundation of that (and lots of other’s, too) peculiar belief system…....even as many of the rest of us have become intimately familiar with the multitude of fates-worse-than-death dealt-out so cavalierly around the globe by fundamentalists of one stripe or another.  A pox on all their houses.

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By John Cunningham, November 12, 2006 at 5:07 am Link to this comment
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Because of two years in Vietnam it turned out to where I wound up with a PTSD problem.  It was like thirty years after the event, that, with help from the VA, I was able to connect the dots on a number of ‘issues’ that had crawled up my a**.  Always worked, always had a job, even went and did a part Army with the National Guard in Buffalo.  I mean, I was out there, running amok in your midst.  One thing I learned was about one-third of the traumatized population turns out to be totally unphazed.  One-third is moderately affected and one-third is f*****.  Turns out I straddle the lower and middle third.  Resulted in a very nice payment from Uncle Sam in his efforts to make amends.  I am your tax dollars at work, I’m a work in progress.  But, all that aside, PTSD is a funny thing and combat veterans do not have a monopoly on the disorder.  There’s also a lot of civilians running around outthirty71 there.  A symptom of the condition is one begins to imagine things.  When the anniversary date phenomenon kicks in it’s kind of like a flashback without the sight and sound.  If your present environment doesn’t match the psychopharmocologically driven feelings many make their environment match those feelings rather than make their feelings match their present environment.  If one would have a full blown flashback then one could easily put a finger on what’s going on in one’s head.  I’m not a doctor so that’s the best way I can break it down to twenty-five words or less.  We’re all under a lot of stress right now, stress can cause trauma.  The terrorists are doing a number on us.

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By Bert, November 11, 2006 at 7:33 am Link to this comment
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Well, that was an amazing read, I’m not sure I agree with a lot of it, citing facts from 2000 is 6 years out-of-date in a world that changes monthly, and as far as ‘fascism’ goes, I once had some pinhead try to recruit me into his head-trip little group, supremacists are usually people that are making up for something, percieved social disadvantage, something like that. If you read about the run-up to WWII, Adolf Hitler capitalized on 20% unemployment in Germany to garner support for his movement. Playing to the ‘down and out’ crowd and promising them stuff is a good way to get a mob gathered…and telling them they’re better than everyone else and that they ‘deserve’ stuff or whatever, I don’t know what you call that, but it’s not right.

I look at haircuts. If I see someone that looks like they’ve got an attitude, REALLY short hair coupled with tattoos, and usually a dirty look for the people they come in contact with, generally a belligerent air to em, I’m kind of on my guard right off the bat. I’ve seen white skinheads, asian skinheads, black skinheads, hispanic skinheads, a skinhead’s a skinhead, and assuming that racism etc. is a ‘whites only’ thing is, in and of itself, a racist attitude.
Extremism’s extremism, it doesn’t even matter if you’ve got a shaved dome, it’s what’s INSIDE your head that’s key: If you have this view that ‘all____ are _____’, a totally binary yes/no view of things, well, that’s part of the problem right there. Not ALL people with no hair, for example, are extremist, not every person with a tattoo is also packin’ a grudge and looking for an outlet.

I haven’t read a whole lot about Timothy McVeigh, I read he was a decorated soldier from the first gulf war, I just think it was a real pity that someone that did well as a soldier just couldn’t come back and hack it as a citizen. War tends to change people, though, read about some of the PTSD stuff as it pertains to those who’ve been in our current war in Iraq. They talk about homelessness etc., not being able to hold jobs,
getting arrested, etc.

I think the best antidote for any/all of it is to try and learn about the causes of war, in the instance of the middle east it’s a resource war,
bluntly spoken, and look for ways to forestall the need for bullets to go flying around in the first place. If’n people worked a little harder on that, it’d be better for everybody, I think.

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By Frank Goodman, Sr., November 10, 2006 at 7:22 am Link to this comment
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Here is the case for impeachment of Bush and Cheney.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts178.html

Though this is a leftist position, many conservatives and moderates agree with it. The only reason that it will not be done is that the American people have been duped just as the Germans were duped by Hitler. The American media has joined the Emperor and the Supreme Court is packed with supporters of the Imperial Presidency concept.

It was a natural consequence of the “Leader of the Free World” designation of the American president, no matter who held that office. It was also the outcome of the fact that there are in America, as in every nation on Earth, people who would carry out the will of a dictator to torture, distort, subvert and to rule by force. True democracy is hard to sustain against those who would usurp the democratic process to install a dictator. True democracy appeals to the will of the people and the will of the people can, if distorted by propaganda, elect a Zionist, Islamic, Christian,  Communist, Fascist, or some other dictatorial regime that violates the intent of the constitution and imposes restrictions on minorities to deny freedom of religion, economics, and politics.

It is not too late, but we have little time to act. The will of the people must be asserted en masse to undo the harm and the remove the threat to our democracy and the constitution.

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