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Blair and Bush
 

A Coalition of the Unwilling

Nothing screams “I (heart) global warming” quite like a stroll around Capitol Hill in your halter top at Christmastime.  I speak from experience; this past holiday season, high on Coppertone and early-blooming cherry trees, I found myself all too eager to tryst with the infamous 21st-century menace—never mind that he’d recently melted the heart of the Ayles Ice Shelf, screwed 2,000 polar bears in the Beaufort Sea and sweet-talked the pasty male congressional interns into bearing their chests on the National Mall in mid-winter.  Do I regret my indulgence? No. Have I repented? Yes.  My cure?  A blustery island called Great Britain.

When I returned to my new flat in the UK after the holidays to discover freakish winds that chapped my lips and trapped my neighbor under a pile of scaffolding until the local authorities could dig him out several hours later, the symbolism wasn’t lost on me.  If America lubed up my climate change romanticism, the motherland was having nothing of it.  In their mass media, the British have long favored unambiguous front-page headlines like “Global Warming May Kill Millions” over manufactured debates about whether climate scientists are the millennial Chicken Littles.  In their elected government, they share a cross-party consensus on the need for urgent action, as evinced by Prime Minister Tony Blair’s ambitious pledge to cut UK carbon emissions at least 60 percent by 2050.  And in their national temple to intellectual argumentation—the pub—the Brits’ carbon-conscious banter flows as freely as Old Hooky.  In fact, it was around the stained oak tables of Oxford’s Eagle and Child that I first noticed my British peers’ dexterity in the lingo of “eco-footprints” and “carbon sequestration” that put me and my American friends to shame.

Whereas my job as a freelance journalist is typically to write my way around my ineptitude, on this particular occasion I would like to write about it.  The question was simple when I pitched it to my editor several months ago: Why are the Brits kicking our arse on climate change awareness?  That was back when news of a 14 percent reduction in perennial Arctic sea ice cover was relegated to the footnotes of The New York Times, and when the Republican-ruled Congress still boasted a prime soapbox for Sen. James Inhofe’s (R-Okla.) diatribes against the liberal “hoax” of greenhouse gases.  But times they are a-changing.  Now that the crisis has exploded into the mainstream U.S. press upon the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report in February—and with Oscar-adorned Al Gore suddenly hedging his bets for a Nobel Peace Prize, Snoop Dogg rapping for the cause, and even our recalcitrant commander in chief promising a spankin’ new climate agenda—America appears to be reaching its tipping point. 

My original question about the U.S.-UK climate divide hasn’t disappeared in this new landscape; it’s simply proved more complicated and urgent than I’d first imagined:  Why did the Brits catch the climate change bug several years before the America public, and has this pop trend really translated into meaningful policy?  What makes a troubling environmental truth take hold of a nation’s psyche—earning that coveted “stickiness factor” to which Malcolm Gladwell traces all revolutions of consciousness?  And how can we ensure that America’s recent attempts to close the climate change gap translate into immediate action—individually, culturally and politically—on both sides of the Atlantic this year? 

I decided to consult more than 20 climate change scientists, politicians, journalists and environmentalists for answers.  And the insights they shared form a surprisingly coherent picture, even if it looks less like one of Gore’s tidy Power Point slides and more like an epidemiologist’s tangled causality web: Scientific research breaks through to the mass media (or doesn’t); the media transform pop culture; public opinion tilts political leadership; political leadership stocks the coffers of new scientific research; and the circle goes ’round again, ricochets, darts sideways and globalizes.  What follows is a tour of three major strands from this web that seem worth splicing, since they allow us to look beyond the symptoms of climate apathy in order to address its underlying practical and philosophical structures.

Next Page: A Nation of “Once-lers”: the Strand of Addiction

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By Andrewb, March 4 at 5:26 am #
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I read about Zionists and Texans are going to get it. I read that we as free individuals are not going to give up our luxuries and that our world leaders do not care. I seem to have more hope for man kind than (from what I can tell) most people commenting here.
I believe the attitude in the individual is the reason we no longer seem to have the good presence of mind to elect someone who can do the job. Our elected leaders should be a reflection of our ideals, beliefs and goals. Perhaps we should take a closer look at ourselves.
The issue is not that our leaders do not care but our free living people are not involved. We have become lazy. The fault sits 100% with us as individuals not becoming active in our own future. It is easy to sit at home with you favorite imported beer in front of the TV and say “that’s wrong.” What is truly wrong is after you said it you get another beer and sit down again.
Oh yes the ranting maniac running on about Zionists, you are a very angry person with punctuation issues. Have you tried a hug?

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By truth time, February 7 at 2:30 pm #
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I saw a program on Danish T.V. and i must say i was shocked and saddened at America has committed crime after crime, and in America, nobody talks about that

2 men from Europe, Germany and England were kidnapped by the CIA. These 2 people suffered inhuman treatment, one man was beaten to a pulp, he was also raped, and he had his manhood cut many times over. A American doctor gasped at what she saw. Afterwards, they found this man to be not guilty of anything, and the CIA think its funny what they have done. Ilegaly entered another country and kidnap people who were innocent. Shouldnt some kind of compasation be awarded to these people for the inhuman treatment USA has done to them? According to a CIA member who smiled alot no way.

America needs someone who knows what there doing in politics. The world knows H.Clinton, A very highly respected lady throughout the world, no matter how much the media try and degrade her. Throughout the world this lady has respect for her work over the last 35 years, i stress 35 years and not 4.

What amases me is that CNN meant to be a highly respected news staion, yet one has never herd a word from this channel on any of the 2 people treatment by the USA, are they getting money to keep it quiet or what?

Showbuissness stars like >Operah, who never really ever came clean about the fact she was a lesbian in many, many years, people were led to believe she was married. Most lesbians are open about the fact of who they prefer, sadly Operah you lied and decieved all along the way. Kennedy who has had more affairs than Bill Clinton has had hot dinners, and wasnt there a murder scandel along the way. Mrs. Obama showed how immature she was at the cheap, nasty way she attacked H. Clinton. Obama takes many cheap shots at Clinton, yet the lady has dignity, something the Obama’s have yet to learn.

Ladies, ladies, you know you wear the trousers in the home, enough of men making a mess of your country, the world is willing you to take charge, and put a lady of dignity to clean up the mess thats been caused by the little men who think they know how.

I wonder who really should be in the book of rogues

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By 1drees, July 27, 2007 at 1:13 pm #
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God Help Humanity against the American-Zionist attack, i know that iraq, iran & others will Survive the Zionist attack But I Wish the Americans Had Better Chances. Good Luck to All Honest Americans!

ZIONISTS:Ones who believe they are the “only” humans(God’s"Chosen ones")& rest is “Trash” to be consumed / used. MODUSOPERENDI:start as business and bilk the populations while laying down Organisations that are for (fake)trade & “our protection” whose actual purpose is surveillance & Harrassement of “nonZIONIST”. they keep screaming “Hitler’s holocaust, Hitler’s holocaust” while they been doing WORSE since 1948 in their Fanatic Fantasyland called Isreal aka “shitty little state”, armed with 300 nuclear bombs that they dont want to talk
about.(these are peaceful people!lol) GOAL: creation of some nutty global empire based on pureness of “Chosen Ones” ENEMIES: anyone that does not Comply with them or their propaganda (is also branded an
Antisemite & thoroughly harassed) NETWORK: global and very developed, a well oiled machine bent on EVIL. FEARS: “EVERYBODY is out to get us because we are GOOD!” this is the typical brainwash and then they
WHITEWASH real issues with PATRIOTIC LIES. Also intresting to note that Mr Vanunu who stated the true state of Israeli Nukes rots in jails since 2 decades for speaking the truth, hence we can safely conclude
that TRUTH is definately not a passion in Israel. so GOD HELP ALL THAT COME IN CONTACT WITH ZIONISTS!  AMERICANS TRY AND GET RID OF YOUR ZIONIST MASTERS THAT DICTATE THE WHITE HOUSE, GOODLUCK!

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By John Hanks, July 1, 2007 at 12:22 pm #
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The Texas mafia has had veto power over this country for years.  They murdered the Kennedy’s and Martin Luther King.  They threw the many elections, and they cooked up 911.  Whenever a conspiracy is mentioned, they get the media to change the subject.  I hope global warming kills them early.

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By Allen, June 10, 2007 at 10:56 am #
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remember---you herd it here 1st. Our nxt POTUS is going to be Newt Gingrich & he’ll have a Repub congress. Still gotta focus on the nxt VP, but the crystal ball is just back from the shop.

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By Randall Schantin, June 3, 2007 at 10:40 am #

The American people have become letargic behind the mindless programing they watch an average of 4 hours a day. Bush should have been impeached along time ago! I mean how can the voters of this country stand by while this ego-maniac has destroyed the clean air and clean water acts, has put american Soldiers in harms way illegally, created run away profits for the oil companies at the expense of our citizens, and yet the people of this country let him continue to create policies that will eventually destroy what used to be the strongest economy in the world.
I mean the Bush Administration has cost this country more in spending then all the presidential administrations before them. As far as I’m concerned! The whole administration should be imprisoned, and the two party system should be revamped starting with eliminating the leaders of both the Democratic and Republican Partys’because these are the sheep that has let this administration get away with creating policies our childrens, children will still be trying to pay for 3 or 4 decades in the future. Honestly! The time has come for the people of this country to get off their lazy backsides, and take government back. Our leaders need to understand they’re public servants, and their job is to do what is best for the people they represent, instead of the special intrests that have literially created a den of thieves, that we call politicans. One more thing! Sense it seems as though 95% of our politicans are lawyers! Maybe law firms shouldn’t be able to buy political positions, because quiet honestly, they’re killing this great country.
The problems, not the politicans! The problem is we as a people, are knowingly letting it continue. Maybe it’s time we stand-up for ourselves.

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By JT, June 2, 2007 at 9:43 am #
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It’s EASY!

Just follow the money.  With big business running everything on this side of the pond.. with direct connects to the VP, it’s in Big Oils best interest to keep this horse in the barn for as long as possible.  Look at record profits for oil… do you think this would have been possible if Bush would have mandated lower emmissions by 2008?  By now, there’d be lots more alt fuel cars on the road and big oil wouldn’t be making record profits.

This is not a question of will, it’s a question of who profits.

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By Bert, May 19, 2007 at 3:49 am #
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Oil companies want to sell oil. That’s why they went into the oil business. Warming, shmarming, it’s about oil sales. Your computer’s made out of plastic, chances are your clothes are 60% plastic, (check your labels), your car runs on gas, or diesel, you manage your finances on a piece of plastic, plastic cups, plastic furniture, thousands and millions of tons of....plastic. The oil companies got us coming and going, and the only way to break this alien facehugger business relationship is to nationally cut back consumption. Yeah. That’s gonna happen…

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By siri, May 12, 2007 at 3:34 pm #
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#68476 by Allen on 5/06 at 9:28 am
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“I’ve started to wonder about the ‘unwilling.’ With Crazy Horse’s popularity down to 28%, the young guys seem to keep volunteering. will this ultimately thin out the loon herd?”

Good Point, Allen, and I agree totally.  HOWEVER, referring to Bu$h as “Crazy Horse” is just mean to Crazy Horse who was, actually, quite a wise man to his people in his time.  Please rethink a better nickname?  There are LITERALLY THOUSANDS being used everywhere.  On any given day several excellent monikers can be found at http://maruthecrankpot.blogspot.com/.  Toughen up to this site if you go there, they tend toward the graphic!
And again, GREAT POST!
siri

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By Allen, May 6, 2007 at 9:28 am #
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I’ve started to wonder about the ‘unwilling.’ With Crazy Horse’s popularity down to 28%, the young guys seem to keep volunteering. will this ultimately thin out the loon herd?

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By straight_talk_11, April 26, 2007 at 1:05 pm #

Thanks, basho! Great link! By the way, the source for the information displayed at this link is:

Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence. Staff Report, Committee on Banking, Currency and Housing, House of Representatives, 94th Congress, 2nd Session, August 1976.

The link again is:

http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html

For any who think this is off topic, please refer to Dawn’s comments below regarding the perceived need of the power elite (not intellectual elite as they would have it) to limit population growth or worse by disallowing strong economic development and economically flourishing populations in third world countries.

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By nonsequitor, April 25, 2007 at 1:10 pm #

Is the Federal Reserve really federal?

The answer to the last question for anyone who bothers to look it up for themselves is that it is a private, international banking cartel to which our government signed over its right to print money interest free in 1913.
(straight_talk_11)

check it out:
http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html

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By Douglas Chalmers, April 20, 2007 at 4:19 am #

Quote: freedomnow - “...What can I say?  We all need to do something about this- NOW!  Not in 2050 or in 2020 or whenever, but now. If we don’t stop, then the so-called “alarmist” predictions will actually occur- oh a my a god- and much sooner than we thought......”

This week’s dire predictions regarding the drought in Australia are that 40% of agricultural land has run out of water and there is NO WATER left for irrigation -  http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,215 88499-601,00.html

The Australian government’s treasurer has publicly warned that food prices will increase as much as 400% during the year as a result of drought -  http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,215 90106-601,00.html

Apart from that, cities like Brisbane (population 1 million) are also running out of drinking water and could do so by the end of the year if their drought still continues......

“Drought conditions in Brisbane, Australia, could leave Queensland with the highest percentage of recycled water of any place in the world. When a recycled water pipeline goes into operation late next year, all that would be left in the water supply if the drought continues is a 50-50 mix of desalinated and recycled water, the chairman of the Ware Commission’s recycled water advisory panel, University of Queensland professor Paul Greenfield, told The Courier-Mail. “It’s a high percentage, but the water is very pure. With the dam levels very low, that’s an inevitability that we have to face,” he said......”

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By straight_talk_11, April 19, 2007 at 11:15 pm #

freedomnow,

The world has experienced higher temperatures many times in the past. This is clear in the ice core samples we use to get the curves Gore shows in his chart showing the millions of years of positive correlation between temperature and carbon dioxide. He just got the cause and effect backwards. You don’t get carbon dioxide increasing 800 years after the temperature goes up if the latter cause the former. Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. Animal waste produces much greater amounts than human beings, and vegetation dwarfs that!

The problem is the OTHER things we’re doing that DO pollute! What do you say? Let’s do something about that! We’re getting our freedoms sacked, Freedomnow, because there is an elite that wants it that way. This is not some wild-eyed conspiracy theory. You can’t just make a blanket dismissal out of hand of everything as “conspiracy theory” unless you believe no one has ever conspired to do anything!

If you want to understand Gore’s motivations, ask why everyone in high political office pretends that personal (as opposed to corporate) taxes go to pay for government services. They don’t even pay the interest on our national debt! Why don’t we ask ourselves the following questions:

Who prints our money, then “loans” it to us (to our government) and charges it (us) interest?

Why did our government give up its right to print its own money interest free in 1913?

Who gets the interest we pay with taxes on the funny money they print? (It’s not redeemable for anything, is it?)

Who has financed every major war and quite a few minor ones in the twentieth century and the current one in Iraq?

Why does our government have such a good credit rating with these folks when the government’s credit history and current ability to pay absolutely stink?

Is the Federal Reserve really federal?

The answer to the last question for anyone who bothers to look it up for themselves is that it is a private, international banking cartel to which our government signed over its right to print money interest free in 1913.

Here’s what then-President Wilson later said about that:

“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit.

We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominate men.”

Woodrow Wilson, 1919

Our government effectively works for them, and big oil and arms manufacturing are intimately linked together with them. Gore believes, as these bankers do, that this world is overpopulated. As amazing as it sounds, they want to change that in ways we don’t want to think about.

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By freedomnow, April 19, 2007 at 5:40 pm #

What can I say?  We all need to do something about this- NOW!  Not in 2050 or in 2020 or whenever, but now. If we don’t stop, then the so-called “alarmist” predictions will actually occur- oh a my a god- and much sooner than we thought, As it is, in 93 years half of life as we know it will be extinct. 

I am one of the straight-A people, but I must say, it doesn’t take rocket science to see that there’s a big problem heading our way at break-neck speed.  And I don’t mean a meteor.  I wonder what it will do to our consciences to know that a mass extinction not seen since the dinosaurs kicked the bucket has been caused by US. And by the U.S. in particular.  Do away with oil, coal, cow patties, cars and rice patties, and you’ve got it.  That’s a hell of a job, so let’s get moving.

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By Douglas Chalmers, April 19, 2007 at 6:00 am #

“Were you moved by the part of the movie ....where a doctor is being interviewed in a medical clinic in Africa? ......Why should Africa which is poor and underdeveloped be required to use the more expensive “clean” energy while America is still allowed to burn coal and oil because conversion to “clean” energy is costly and will take time....? People like Tony Blair want to LEGISLATE that all development from now on in underdeveloped nations be clean and green and therfore, slow, insufficient and expensive........”

Yes, Dawn, but that is exactly what is already happening. All of the old unclean technology and industrial equipment removed from Western streets, offices and factories which are upgrading will simply be shipped off to countries like Africa which can’t afford anything better. Of course, they will be to blame, etc etc......

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By Dawn, April 18, 2007 at 10:55 pm #

Cleaning up pollution is, of course, a good idea. No one is arguing against this. Using solar panels to supplement other sources of energy is helpful. Wind power is helpful and clean. However, switching from oil to ethanol is neither helpful nor healthful. It actually uses more energy to create it than it can produce and it dirties the air more than oil. It also leads to price hikes in food crops (corn) and therefore increases starvation in poor countries where it will be grown for fuel instead of food. That is why the biofuel movement, fully implemented would be genocidal.

Were you moved by the part of the movie (The Great Global Warming Swindle) where a doctor is being interviewed in a medical clinic in Africa? He had to chose whether he wanted to have the lights on or his equipment plugged in because the solar panels he was required to use for power did not supply enough energy for both. He had a simple question for American environmentalists:  Why should Africa which is poor and underdeveloped be required to use the more expensive “clean” energy while America is still allowed to burn coal and oil because conversion to “clean” energy is costly and will take time? That is an example of another genocidal aspect to this swindle. Africans can’t have proper healthcare and will therefore die at faster rates than we do because they do not have electricity and clean water. It is as simple as that. It is a racist, fascist policy. People like Tony Blair want to LEGISLATE that all development from now on in underdeveloped nations be clean and green and therfore, slow, insufficient and expensive.

If the real cause for climate change is the Sun which we cannot influence, then all of the “global warming mitigation schemes are irrelevant, useless and wildly expensive. Why should we devote our scarce resources to what is essentially a non-problem and ignore the real problems the world faces:  hunger, disease, denial of human rights and the threat of nuclear war?” (S.Fred Singer, atmosheric physicist, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia)

I don’t mind if Al Gore makes money—but I do mind if he is selling lies and terrorizing our youth with the idea that they have no future. We are human beings, not animals. We can use our intelligence and our creativity to survive. We do have a future if we can get the crooks out of the White House and put some people in charge who actually want to work on real world problems.

Bush and Cheney and Gore just want to foment fear so that people panic. When people panic they don’t think clearly and it presents an opportunity for fascism to take hold. The fascists are co-opting the green movement in a very dishonest way. I fully support all efforts to take care of the earth. I just don’t want to unwittingly advance a fascist agenda that has genocidal tendencies. The fear that 9/11 caused brought us the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act and a bloody war in Iraq. The fear that global warming is causing could bring us even worse if we do not keep cool heads and creative open minds.

I also just checked the websight http://www.climatescience.org.nz and discovered that the movie has been removed. That is another attempt at suppression of the truth.

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By straight_talk_11, April 18, 2007 at 10:47 am #

Right on, UH2L!! Good show!

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By Douglas Chalmers, April 17, 2007 at 9:50 pm #

Quote Dawn: “...I have only one question for Douglas: Did you watch the documentary...”

Yes, I did, thanks, Dawn. The first half was disappointing as they strove to make their point sometimes less than honestly. The rest was much more like science and they did put forward some interesting concepts.

I will agree, though, that there is far too much blind acceptance already of the CO2 side of the argument as well as an “everything is the fault of global warming” new ignorant attitude. Every hot day and every storm are now alarming people unnecessarily.

It was disappointing that one remark in the film was that we and everything else alive on this Earth are made of CO2. Humans exchange gases including CO2 by breathing but that is very different from trees and other plant life which convert CO2 into cellular growth.

Another fallacy was that the coal miners strike in Britain had any effect on the environment. Despite their profligate use of coal then, Britain is only one small country and that would have been as irrelevant as the rest of the CO2 arguments at least.

What I did find interesting was the emphasis n the influence of the Sun. We do live within its “atmosphere” but again they seemed to ignore the role of the Earth’s magnetosphere which also has a significant effect on the solar wind. It is another important “atmosphere in which we live.

Overall, I thought that there was as much bias and inconclusive assumptions in the film as there was in the previous climate change agendas. That could partly be because of the film makers, though. It was interesting, however, that they pointed out a number of issues as regards government funding for research.

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By UH2L, April 17, 2007 at 9:07 pm #

Why don’t the disbelievers in global warming answer my question?  What’s better for the planet, less pollution or more? 

It’s obvious that the answer is less pollution, so why don’t we start making changes whether global warming is man-made or not, whether solar activity is to blame or not, whether Al Gore gains or not?  It’s that simple.  It’s not worth risking our planet due to inaction.

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By Dawn, April 17, 2007 at 9:00 pm #

I have only one question for Douglas: Did you watch the documentary, The Great global Warming Swindle, which can be viewed for free at http://www.climatescience.org.nz ?

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By straight_talk_11, April 17, 2007 at 1:39 pm #

Man, Douglas, theories?!? This is elementary science. I just had never put these simple science facts together until I saw the movie. If the high school science facts that video used to show that global warming is not humanly caused doesn’t do it for you, everybody is wasting their time discussing this with you. You are obviously beyond discussing this, other than to obstinately restate an inflexible position.

You should either go learn some basic science (after all we live in the 21st century now), or stop pretending to discuss subjects like this when you’re in over your head. Or just go get a coke, put it in the sun, and then imagine all the earth’s oceans doing that, but with much less carbon dioxide per unit volume.

After all, there is a fair amount of water in the oceans, since they account for two thirds of the earth’s surface (if you’ll forgive my gift for understatement). That’s why it takes 800 years for the carbon dioxide to catch up with the temperature, and that’s not a theory! It’s right there on Gore’s chart, but he mucks up the analysis because he’s apparently got an ax to grind.

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By Douglas Chalmers, April 17, 2007 at 8:34 am #

“...Now, that the global warming hoax has been exposed on truthdig, can we all get down to the real important business at hand—the double impeachment of Cheney and Bush........?”

No, Dawn and straight_talk_11, you are both trying to derail the discussion with your theories which are no more valid than any others on global warming. The current devastating droughts in some countries, the melting glaciers and the rising sea levels and the category 5 hurricanes are NOT going to go away based on the presumption that there might be some other cause than the actions of mankind involved.

The fact is that they ARE happening and that putting our heads in the sand by pre-occupying ourselves with trivia such as the inevitable fate of the Bush regime (even the Republican can hardly wait to get rid of him) is no solution to addressing the urgent need to act rationally as regards upgrading infrastructure, ensuring water and food supplies and planning for the impact of coastal inundation and necessary migration of affected populations.

Even reducing CO2 emissions is still a significant relevant factor in reducing the overall impact of global warming. I’m sure some will prattle on, though, in their refusal to see changes appearing in front of them and their utter denial of their fears and anxieties of the unknown. If we all act wisely now, successful survival is possible through global co-operation. Refusing to be deceived by a non-existent “global war” is a start although we will end up in one if the USA continues on its insane agenda of domination at any price.

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By Dawn, April 16, 2007 at 10:11 pm #

Thank you for being open-minded enough to take the time to watch the movie (The Great Global Warming Swindle by documentary-maker, Martin Durkin). It can be viewed at http://www.climatescience.org.nz for any one else who wants to see the other side of the story.

One point that was made in the movie is that “global warming” has become an industry filled with people who’s jobs and livelihoods depend on the continuation of this hoax. Environmental jounalists and global warming consultants would be out of a job real quick if the truth became known. So, they have very little incentive to let any one in on the real scientific facts that actually refute global warming. So that leaves it up to the unpaid bloggers to get the word out. I admire people who can change their minds. It’s a hopeful thing.

Now, that the global warming hoax has been exposed on truthdig, can we all get down to the real important business at hand—the double impeachment of Cheney and Bush—in that order?

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By straight_talk_11, April 15, 2007 at 6:43 pm #

Douglas, I’m realizing you need to go back and read my earlier comments. I was totally on your side. I thought anyone who resisted the idea of global warming was bananas. Now I realize I was wrong.

But eClaire is absolutely right. There are many other imperatives for independent, indefinitely sustainable energy. Energy is naturally distributed so it’s locally available everywhere. The centralization of our energy supply is highly inefficient and totally unnecessary. It gives control to the wrong people and effectively makes us their royal subjects. In the case of Saudi Arabia we can take this quite literally.

Douglas, I know that the polar caps are indeed melting and polar bears are drowning. There is no argument there. The issue is the cause. I used to think it was carbon dioxide, but it’s sunspot activity. There is no way around that. If you read the sequence of reasoning from the video (http://www.climatescience.org.nz) in comment #63611 and you have any science literacy at all, you realize the argument takes the argument as to cause off the table.

Even the one simple piece of empirical evidence that temperature is highly positively correlated with carbon dioxide content in the atmosphere as many millions of years back as we can measure, just as Al Gore points out in his film, is enough to show ironically that Gore is wrong! Why?...because temperature rises and reductions lead the corresponding carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere by roughly 800 years! And that’s true throughout measurable history.

Doesn’t that tell even scientific illiterates that temperature rise is what CAUSES the release of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere by reducing its solubility in ocean water, just like the huge amounts of carbon dioxide that bubble up out of a coke when you leave one open in the hot sun?!?!? And do you really think that human beings, animals, or even vegetation can even begin to compete with the capacity of the world’s oceans to absorb and release carbon dioxide?

If you do, you really are not competent to participate in a debate of this nature, unless you want to make this some kind of religious debate in which it all becomes strictly a matter of opinion. In that case, I guess we can vote on which is true and nature will listen?

Get real! It doesn’t really do you or me any good to keep on believing something we had strongly believed before when the opposite reality is clearly shoved in our faces. I always seek the truth. I don’t have to be right.

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By straight_talk_11, April 15, 2007 at 2:04 pm #

“A man (or woman) convinced against his (her) will
Is of the same opinion still.”

Apparently you don’t know enough science to understand that the elementary scientific facts mentioned in this chain of logic are true, and so it remains simply a matter of belief for you. Or maybe you’re just not interested in the truth.

I was hard on your side of this issue until I saw the video to which Dawn provided a link. The information in that video is INCONTROVERTIBLE, so I had to change my position radically. Some will disbelieve my sincerity, but I don’t belong to the class defined by the opening quote above of the old dictum.

I feel it is no less imperative to use sustainable energy for extremely pressing reasons that have nothing to do with global warming, but everything to do with pollution, nasty political situations born of a blind pursuit of fossil fuels as the only option, and the mess we’re going to leave to future generations if we don’t get our act together in a hurry.

I actually don’t think that my shift in position is going to have any significant impact or I wouldn’t publish it. Fear of global warming provides a strong incentive to do what we need to do anyway. Some people don’t act until they’re scared out of their wits. I hope it helps.

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By Douglas Chalmers, April 15, 2007 at 10:58 am #

Oh, really, *straight_talk_11, believe if you want to that “...if the planet is heating up, it isn’t your fault and there’s nothing you can do about it...”. What is significant, though, is the fact that it is and that is clearly demonstrated by the melting Arctic and Antarctic icecaps and the world’s disappearing glaciers never mind anything else.

Additionally, there has never been a time in man’s history on the planet when there has been so much CO2 and other pollutants produced from human activity. CFC damage to the ozone layer has already been accepted and acted upon - why not CO2 emissions? The point is that there IS something which can still be done NOW - but not when it is too late!

You can even say that “...Natural changes in ocean currents are to blame for increased Atlantic hurricane activity in recent years, not man-made global warming...” (see http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSB90 43220070406?feedType=RSS ) but the ocean currents themselves are changing as evidenced by the El Nino/La Nina research which has indicated changing depths of cold water currents in the Pacific and other changes of unknown and unpredictable(?) consequences - even global cooling. http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html

As far as dissolved CO2 levels in oceans, at what stage does that then amount to carbonic acid, CO2 + H2O ⇌ H2CO3 or even sodium hydroxide, NaCl(aq) + H2O + CO2 ⇌ NaOH as an environment not any longer able to support life???

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By straight_talk_11, April 15, 2007 at 10:19 am #

My last comment #63611 contains the logical essence of the video from the link Dawn thoughtfully provided. Anyone with a good elementary scientific background can see the validity of each step in this logic because each refers to a well-known, empirical scientific fact that the such a reader already will already know to be true.

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By Douglas Chalmers, April 13, 2007 at 4:52 am #

Global Warming is Nature’s “surge” against the human race! To put it another way, its the culmination of our cumulative wrong thoughts and actions on this planet now being returned to us. Its called “bad karma”!

Our glorious politicians will soon find that all of their aircraft carrier attack groups and pre-emptive strike threats will have no effect against the Hurricane Katrinas and rising sea levels and extensive droughts.

Finally, it will be left up to some “Coalition of the Unwilling” to form an all-embracing NEW WORLD ORDER of genuine co-operation and positive action before it really is too late!

Sadly, though, we have heard all that before. First, it was the formation of the United Nations after WW2. Then, it was “greed is good” and latterly “you’re either with us or against us!”.

What will be next, though? Will someone like Paul Wolfowitz become the head of some new global development monster created by warping the IPCC? Condoleeza Rice, maybe - the Americans always have to have it all their way!?!?

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By straight_talk_11, April 12, 2007 at 2:40 pm #

Dawn, I’m wondering why, instead of just stating the conclusions from the information you have about global warming, you don’t support them with the evidence that is there to do so. Here are the key points that need to be clarified concerning global warming:

1) Climatologists have long known that cosmic rays from outer space ionize water vapor, which causes the formation of the microscopic droplets that form clouds. 

2) Solar wind from sunspots, when strong, sweeps away the cosmic ray particles so that clouds do not form. When the solar wind is weak, the particles bombard the atmosphere and clouds form.

3) Cloud formation governs temperature on the earth. Lots of clouds cool things off by reflecting sunlight back into space. Lack of them allows the sun to raise the temperature on the earth.

4) The earth’s oceans are by far the largest repository of carbon dioxide. The amount of carbon dioxide in the oceans is not only vastly greater than any human contribution, but also vastly greater than the animal contribution or that of vegetation to it in the atmosphere.

5) Carbon dioxide in ocean water is more stable and stays in solution when the water is cooler and returns to the atmosphere when it is hot, just like the carbon dioxide in carbonated beverages.

6) As Gore points out, there is a very long term positive correlation between the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and temperature. However, the temperature changes lead the changes in carbon dioxide by hundreds of years (roughly 800) because of the size of the oceans.

7) When the long term average temperature of the earth’s oceans increases, the oceans release carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. When it drops, much of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere goes back into solution in the ocean water.

8) This pattern is observable through ice core samples and other geological evidence over millions of years. Therefore it is clear that temperature drives the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and not the reverse, not to mention that the amount of carbon dioxide in the ocean dwarfs that from natural vegetation, which in turn dwarfs that from animal excrements, which dwarfs the human industrial contribution.

This issue has been politicized and consequently financially distorted through the availability of research grants, etc. for reasons that have nothing to do with objective science. The information that Dawn kindly led me to with her comment has completely turned me around on this issue. That does NOT mean that I think industrial pollution of our air and water is no longer an important issue for me. However, carbon dioxide as it relates to global warming no longer is.

This has alerted me even further to how easy it is for scientifically informed, alertminds to be duped by politics linked with overly commercialized media coverage. I now have a clearer picture, thanks to Dawn, of how this fits into the bigger picture behind such distortions. See http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175 242198&q;=

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By straight_talk_11, April 12, 2007 at 12:42 pm #

Thank you, Dawn, for this link: (http://www.climatescience.org.nz)

It is extremely informative and I highly recommend that everyone with a serious interest in objectivity in dealing with the issue of global warming click on this link and watch the whole video.

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By Dawn, April 11, 2007 at 1:23 am #
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The significance of exposing the deliberate fraud that Al Gore is pushing is not for the purpose of measuring his excessive personal energy consumption. That is his own business. The problem is that he knows he has used faulty science to push a political agenda which will benefit himself financially and harm a lot of poor people globally.

There have been other periods of climate warming on the earth. These periods preceed all industrial civilizations producing large amounts of CO2. The charts that Gore is using have cherry picked data that highlights his point and cuts out real data that would refute it. We are in a natural cycle of climate warming between ice ages. Check out this site for articles by scientists who refute that global warming is a man-made phenomenon.(http://www.climatescience.org.nz)

It is not that people should not be careful to take care of the earth. We need to find clean energy sources and clean up dirty water so people can drink it and solve waste problems around the world. Solar energy is viable for small solutions. Wind power has its merits. Electric cars existed for a momment and then disappeared for some unknown reason. Nuclear power is clean. France has come up with solutions for its waste.

However, when large corporations start negotiating with President Bush and President Lula da Silva in Brazil to aggressively promote biofuels, this sends up a red flag of corruption in the making. If you begin to use land to grow crops that will become fuel for cars instead of food for people, then you are creating genocide. If you are creating government mandates that will prohibit certain activities unless you pay the “carbon offset fee”, then you are closing the door to industrialization to underdeveloped nations. Al Gore will get rich. Exxon will branch out into biofuels and continue to make billion dollar profits. Halliburton will build the prisons. Blackwater will provide the security and the enforcement of the genocidal laws that people like Al Gore and Tony Blair will propose.

I voted for Al Gore. I was devastated when the Supreme Court was used to hand the election to our unelected President Bush. But since that time, I have done lots of reading and researching. Al Gore is not the person I thought he was. He believes there are too many people living on the planet (about 5 billion too many). So he intends to do his share to reduce that number. Africans can starve and die of aids and civil wars. The South Americans can go hungry and thirsty while their land and water is being used to create biofuels and Pepsi. Halliburton just located their headquarters in Dubai. The hedge funds are in the Cayman Islands, owned by the Queen of England. Rich people are taking their money out of America. Al Gore has been hired by Gordon Brown, Britain’s next prime minister, and is running his own hedge fund in London. The inconvenient truth is that Al Gore doesn’t care about America or global warming. He cares about money and power. So he has thrown his efforts in with those who have both—the British Monarchy.

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By straight_talk_11, April 10, 2007 at 8:30 pm #

For Dawn et al:

All dogs are animals, but not all animals are dogs. Gore is not the greatest example of an environmentalist you could choose. To indict the global warming science and all the evidence because some politicians who are jumping on this bandwagon are personally lousy at conserving energy is not good reasoning. If you want to really follow the money, why don’t you look at corporations like Exxon, which has put a lot of money into buying out “scientists” in order to “debunk” global warming? Watch out when you imply that others are suckers for false propaganda. The sucker just could be you.

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By Dawn, April 10, 2007 at 4:37 am #
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I was surprised by the assumptions being made about my personal consumption of energy and my affinity for people getting A’s in calculus in high school as well as my political bent. Actually, I drive a 4 cylinder car that gets good mileage for a car manufactured in America. I don’t hate people who get A’s in anything—I like intelligent people. And I am not a conservative but rather a progressive Democrat who boycotts Walmart and would like to see Dennis Kucinich in the White Housein 2008. I also don’t think we can wait that long to hear the voice of reason from the office of the president so I am supporting a double impeachment—Cheney first. Enough about me. Can you spend some time researching Al Gore who is having a much greater impact on politics than me?

Al Gore and David Blood began a London-based investment fund, Generation Investment Management, affectionately refered to as “Blood and Gore” by insiders, in November 2004. Brokering and speculating on carbon swaps is part of what Generation Investment management is about. they want governments to make green house reduction mandatory worldwide. he is set up to make a lot of money on this deal. gore has also been hired by the British government as an adviser. Tony Blair is distributing his movie to schools throughout England. The Queen of England owns the Cayman Islands where all the money lives now. Britain never gave up on the idea of colonizing the world. Now it can add unwitting environmentalists to its supporters in this endeavor. Just research who is pushing the “global warming” agenda and ask why. Follow the money.

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By Tom, April 6, 2007 at 8:34 pm #
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Dawn, like the majority of “sceptics” is being disingenuous. Sure there isn’t the level of proof of a mathematical theorem, like say the pythagoran theory. The reality is with high school physics and chemistry, you can show that gas molecules containing more than two atoms (CO2 and H2O have 3, Methane five, Ozone 3...) all aborb/emit in the infrared. This makes
the escape of heat from the earths surface and lowr atmossphere harder. The result is immediate surface and lower atmosphere warming. The change of the energy balance is refered to as a forcing. The amount of warming from a given amount of CO2, or methane can be precisely determined, the only real question is how the climate system responds to a given amount of forcing. We have observations of cooling due to volcanic forcings (ash & sulfur dioxide blocking sunlight), and the results fit well with the models climatologists use. In addition, the same sort of analysis an be done of other planets with atmospheres, Venus is a good example. Its clouds reflect more of the sunlight than the earths clouds -so it actually absorbs a very similar amount of solar energy as the earth -yet its surface is hot enough to melt lead! Why? Well Venus contains large amounts of CO2 and sulfuric acid, so we have an important data point, lots of greenhouse gases means extreme heat!

We could go on and on like this, but I don’t think truthdig readers want to go into this level of detail. What do we see happenning here. People for whom human caused global warming is politically inconveneint, whi incidentally know little to any science, presume they know more than thousands of experts who have spent decade apiece working on these sorts of problems. Yes, Dawn -these are the people who got A’s in Calculus and Physics. You hated them because you couldn’t hack it! So now you decide to call them all fraudsters. The real hoax is from the denialist community, who keep grasping at the denialist alternate theory of the week (Sunspots, Cosmic rays, Solar brightness...).

I don’t expect conservatives to change easily on this one, they’ve been on the wrong side too long, to switch now would only expose how wrong they have been for so long.

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By maurice estevez, April 5, 2007 at 9:54 am #
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I would like to ask Neanderthal75 what he believes the meaning of the word fascism is. His “liberal” use of the term in his rant indicates that he is a faithful follower of Rush Limbaugh, and Fox News. For the purpose of education The American Heritage College Dictionary decribes it as a system of government marked by socioeconomic controls,suppression of the opposition, belligerent nationalism and racism. Does this sound like the enviroment movement, scientist, or the Republican Party.
I know the temption to quote your idols is hard to resist, however I would appear better informed if you actually understood what it is your are saying. Never take someones word for something, find out for yourself. As Ronald Regan once said “trust but verify”.feed4

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By straight_talk_11, April 3, 2007 at 9:18 pm #
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So, Dawn, you’re willing to bet the whole planet on your denial that humans have anything to do with global warning? How do you know that? We do know that we’ve dumped more stuff into the ecosystem, not just CO2, in the last century than in the whole history of the planet.

Argentines know something’s screwy because they’ve got a huge ozone hole hanging over them that has radically changed everything from climate to skin cancer rates. Yeah, we’ve taken steps to reduce that problem, but the hole’s not going away anytime soon.

You know, one century is a blink of a gnat’s eye in history. If our great grandfathers had left us a polluted, overheated planet with big holes in the sky and we were suffering heavily from their lovely legacy, how would we look back on them? You really think we can afford that kind of goofy, wait-and-see gamble? Is that how you want us to be remembered and cursed by future generations? I beg your pardon, but I don’t care for your odds considering the stakes!

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By Atul, April 3, 2007 at 5:39 pm #
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Dawn,

Innovation is the key, but it does not make business sense right now to be more efficient in every industry, and it is not happening fast enough.  So, the governments of the world need to enact laws before it’s too late.  If the EPA had not enacted pollution laws in the 70’s and later, just think how many more people would have lung cancer.

Even if you don’t believe that our global warming is man-made, what’s more natural and better for the environment, your lungs, and the future?… More pollution or less pollution? It’s less pollution. We only have one planet. Why risk it by going on polluting the way we always have?

And as for this being a green conspiracy, the groups (like oil companies), who say global warming isn’t real have more to gain by lying than the scientists and politicians who say it is real. And the naysayers can easily get support from the many people who don’t want to make any sacrifices and therefore deny the phenomenon is occurring.

Also, our extreme energy use and unwillingness to take environmental action is making the rest of the world hate us more than they already do for our military actions.

That’s all you need to know. So stop the whining and the disbelief and start doing your share. Don’t drive gas guzzlers, walk or bicycle sometimes, don’t waste electricity, don’t live in huge homes beyond your needs…

We don’t all have to do everything, but we should all do something.

UH2L
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http://www.realitydriven.com

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By Dawn, April 2, 2007 at 9:43 am #
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No one can argue that climate change is not happening. Glaciers are definitely melting. However, there is NO REAL SCIENTIFIC DATA to prove that human activity is CAUSING this warming trend. Real scientists are not supporting this hysteria and are in some cases being punished for there integrity.

My point is that this “global warming” hoax is being used to unite progressives and conservatives in a effort to try and control CO2 levels of all nations by setting up a “world regulatory commission” to legislate and enforce laws to restrict technology worldwide. That is a slippery slope. Colonial powers have always enjoyed controlling technological innovations in underdeveloped nations. They typically extract natural resources (oil, gold, diamonds) and leave the local people in abject poverty without developing their infrastructure at all.

Every nation should be recognized as a sovereign nation whose borders and laws (or lack of them) should not be breached by the U.S. or England. If the western powers would stay out of other countries’ politics and policies and natural resources, the people of those countries would have a better chance of taking charge of their own fates. I am sure the people of China do not enjoy the pollution they are creating in their own country. Clean, green energy would be a viable alternative if technology and innovation were allowed to work in the free market. People are not stupid. Electric cars have already been invented. They could be mass produced. That innovation has been suppressed. I am all for innovation. I am not for “global regulation” because that opens the door for facism. And that door is already wide open here in the U.S.

Al Gore has a facist agenda. He believes in depopulating the world. He is using the global warming hoax as a forum to rally people to his way of thinking. I hope that the Democrats will not be fooled.

Climate is warming but CO2 emissions have nothing to do with it. Innovation is the key to our survival on the planet—not the demise.

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By Neanderthal75, April 2, 2007 at 1:31 am #
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Hello All,

The bottomline is that most of you folks are living in the Ether, breathing some mind altering substances, because you all seem to believe that the condition of the Earth is non-transitive: that only during the “Dinosaur Ages” did the climate of the Earth actually change catastrophically.

Those of you, such as Kol Klink (which is rather perjorative, in my opinion, to the actual actor who survived Nazis persecution), seem to think that we humans have some special right to survive, even if we aren’t smart enough to get the job done.

The trouble isn’t Global Warming, which is indeed occuring-but NO ONE can PROVE the CAUSE, NOT scientifically, the problem is the Radical Left Fascism which is currently being employed by politicians, academics, pundits, and members of the media.

The governor of Oregon actually FIRED the State Climatologist, NOT for saying that Global Warming wasn’t happening, but that there was NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE proving human causality for GW.

A similar act of radical left fascism occured in Washington State and has occured in a number of other states, including one RL loon advocating stripping meteorologists of their credentials if they DIDN’T agree to human causality for GW.

Yeah, the Politically Correct (RL’s among them) Crowd, so oft touting “diversity, open mindedness, and tolerance” of others, once again illustrating all too clearly, their fascist colors.

No open debate. No scientific data. No comparative analysis.

Just jack-booted thuggery against any and all with whom you folks on the RL and PCC disagree.

One last tidbit upon which to chew: please take the time to explain how the Jet Streams STOP at the borders of the PRC or India.

Take the time to explain how the Ocean Currents STOP at the 12 mile limit of the Yellow Sea, the Indian Ocean, etc.

Last time I checked, our planet is best described as a CLOSED ECO SYSTEM: what pollutants are DUMPED into the Yangtze River, end up on the shores of Anchorage and all the way down to the tip of Chile.
The horrific air pollution of Beijing, makes its way to London, Berlin, Moscow, and Po-Dunk Your Town. Same goes for the similarly horrific pollution in Mexico City.

Despite these FACTS, you loons on the RL and PCC, have NO problem with the “underdeveloped nations” CONTINUING to POLLUTE. India and the PRC pollute so much MORE than the USA, ton for ton, that these countries FAR SURPASS the levels of the USA in every category.

India and the PRC have no such agencies with power as the EPA in the USA. Those nations continue to pollute to this very minute and there is no cessation in sight.

Yeah, go ahead and keep promoting the right of Polluters to keep polluting.

You do NOT care about GW. You do NOT care about the “poor” and “helpless,” you care about your ideologies, political power, and control.

Keep on showing your fascist colors, more and more people ARE taking note. Perhaps enough will take note to strip you of your power to control and power to lie.

Cheers.

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By Dawn, March 30, 2007 at 11:35 pm #
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The Republicans noticed that Arnold Schwarzeneggar went from zero to hero very quickly just by embracing the global warming issue. Therefore, it has become their “cause” for rallying a broad spectrum of people—including progressives that are unaware they are being used. Blair and Bush couldn’t care less about the environment. But they do like the idea of legislating CO2 caps especially on underdeveloped nations.

They would like to discourage scientific advancements of a peaceful nature. Only weapons can become more and more sophisticated. Any kind of technological solutions to world poverty, undrinkable water, and lack of energy will not be contemplated or endorsed by western world leaders. That would only lead to even more population growth (especially people of color). If you read the papers that these people put forward you see that it is really all about racism and genocide. There are presently about 6 billion people inhabiting the world. Bush and Blair and the fascist British bankers would like to see that number reduced to about 1 billion.

Republican policies of austerity for the poor and tax cuts for the rich will assure that most people will live in abject poverty and work at slave wages to provide the bankers with the raw materials and necessaary commodities to maintain the life to which the elite have become accustomed.

Perpetual war is killing off thousands. Iraq is going as planned. Paul Bremmer did his job very well (losing 9 billion dollars in cash to fund an insurgency). Starvation and corruption in Africa is working well. Aids is a bonus. And private armies such as Blackwater can provide the security and intimidation to encourage total cooperation. Private prisons, packed with people of color, are booming on the stock exchange.

The Patriot Act is in place to remove our civil liberties and allow the unitary executive to ignore our Constitution. The U.S. attorneys are loyal subjects willing to do the bidding of our new king. The Supreme Court has been packed by the Heritage Foundation. There is a sleeper in the White House and Dick Cheney has his finger on the button. Iran is about to get its face blown off.

It is people of color that CO2 caps are aimed at. They can’t have nuclear power plants. They can’t have desalinization plants to make sea water drinkable. They can’t burn coal or oil. They can’t develop transportation routes and productivity for trade among themselves. Innovation of that order would just cause these people to multiply. Bankers believe the world is a pie and if people of color start eating there just won’t be enough to go around.

This “global warming” hoax is based on faulty science and put forth by people who subscribe to the never ending saga of British colonialism. As much as I love nature and want to preserve it, there is no proof that the current climate warming has anything to do with our production of CO2. It is the same people who brought us the Iraq War and the never ending War on Terror that now want to bring us the War on Innovation. They want to keep people of color in caves and huts without water and electricity and without schools for girls. It’s really just racist, sexist, facist propaganda aimed at co-opting tree huggers. Don’t be fooled by Al Gore who is quite friendly with the Prince of Whales and the British jet set. He’s not who you think he is.

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By nomorebombs, March 28, 2007 at 12:50 am #
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lynchings just like carla fay got…

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By Eso, March 26, 2007 at 12:16 am #
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Remember “Radio ga ga, radio goo goo”? It is the religion of the west preached by the advertising industry. As long as it keeps up, there will be no global warming whatever anyone else says. Half naked girls and young muscular men continue to sell tourists the rosy picture.

It seems to me that the ‘hard’ news must come from us private individuals who stand our lonely and riduculed watch with a sign in hand that reads “The World is Ending Soon!” See http://www.thebequest.com for one such sign.

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By Kol Klink, March 25, 2007 at 9:11 pm #
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To UH2L
I realize that many Americans did not want the war in Iraq. I realize that many Americans voted against the war in Iraq in 2006. It was not enough!
What I believe that you fail to realize is that Americans are, like all other humans, not going to relinquish their overly large homes, lets fly to the superbowl, little betty is 17 and needs an automobile of her own, lets drive 100 miles roundtrip to that new bar-b-que joint, its Thanksgiving and we must make the trip to grandma’s place, and countless other questionable ‘needs’ which are really ‘wants’, just to accomplish carbon reduction.
Tests of midocondrial dna have shown that the human population of the earth crashed from about 3 million to less than 10 thousand about 70,000 years ago. Much debate is going on about the cause of this crash but the most accepted theory is that it was caused by the largest volcanic eruption in human history.

The species of all life on earth is at risk daily of another catastrophy that could cause another population crash. Some of the potential disasters that face us are known but there are probably more that we are not even yet aware.

Meanwhile, instead of attempting to face the problems of global warming, mega tsunamis, mega volcanos, peak oil, peak potable water, potential outbreaks of killer viruses, inadequate education, inadequate health care, hunger, and know one knows what else, what are we doing??? Fighting stupid wars! To add insult to injury we have let a bunch of incompetent idealogues hijack our government and turn it into a war machine of invasion the likes of which have not been seen since the third reich. We elected a ‘bring em on’ cowboy moron for a president and he was and is too stupid to realize that he needs competent help. So what does he do? Surrounds himself with yes men...’your doin a hell of a job Brownie!’

And you still think that ‘we can control global warming?’ I think you are delusional. China and India are reaching for the brass ring of improving economies and that means corbon emissions are going to skyrocket. How do you propose that we convince the emerging economies to cut back on their emissions while the bushco big oil government is running the show?

As a last point I would like to say that there are numerous accomplished scientists that believe that we have already passed the ‘tipping point’ of global warming and that no action that we can take will stop runaway warming.

So, party hardy while you can! We made our bed and now we are going to have to lie in it.

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By UH2L, March 25, 2007 at 10:37 am #
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To Kol Klink and Gimmesometruth,

I agree with much of what you say, but you must remember that there are a large number of Americans that do believe in global warming and did not want us to go to Iraq for war.  We are not all of the same opinion!  Our elections in 2006 show that some of the disillusioned are turning the corner on believing our current presidential administration.

UH2L
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By gimmesometruth, March 25, 2007 at 1:38 am #
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climate change is real, and it takes for than psychological resistance to deny it, it takes massive, struborn ignorance on a scale that should be utterly inconceivable in an advanced democracy.

Much of the nutty, psychedelic, raving idiot pseudo-science found in these comments (the solar system is heating up? the “ice age” is JUST now starting to end?? magic, hitherto inconceivable energy sources will soon power the world with the mere flick of a switch???) demonstrate more vividly than anything else possibly could how confused Americans are about the science of the physical world in which the live, and which gave rise to our species.

Te larger question is:
why are americans so hopelessly ignorant that they will sieze on the first wacky idea that floats by and then cling to it with the zeal of the cult member?

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By Kol Klink, March 24, 2007 at 9:13 pm #
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Anyone that believes that Bush and the chickenhawks are going to stop their maniacal pursuit of world domination to address global warming is delusional.

Never forget that this regime and the main stream media that it controls ‘stays on topic’! A discussion of global warming is to them merely a distraction to which they pay passing lip service prior to ‘getting the discussion back on topic’.

Capitalisim is not going to voluntairly commit suicide (hurting it’s bottom line) by going along with a carbon reduction agenda just because the extinction of mankind swings in the balance.

A capitalist will sell you the rope you are going to hang him with if he can make a buck on the deal.

If America did not listen to the rest of the world when being advised that an attack on Iraq was going to be a strategic disaster, why does any rational person believe that America will cooperate on a carbon emissions program???

Get real!!!

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By Margaret Currey, March 24, 2007 at 4:16 pm #
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After we have poisioned all the rivers and killed all the fish and can no longer breathe air, when will we wake up to the fact that money will not buy the good air and the trees that were there when this country was founded.

The natural animal of the plains was the buffalo, but Texas wanted beef, back in the 18th century steer ate grass, today animals are grain feed, changed the natural habits of the animals digestive system.

Now all kinds of things are happening to our food and also the food of our dogs.

Of course the manufacturers have to make money, juice is not 100% anymore it is called juice cocktail, and to stretch the juice even farther high frutose corn syrup is helping along with food coloring. 

All in the name of profit.

Margaret from Vancouver, Washington

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By ok, March 24, 2007 at 3:36 pm #
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honestly, do you think president bush or blair really care about reducing emissions? they arent gonna be alive by 2050!! being president is JUST A JOB TOO YANNO. do what you do to make ppl happy in this case they are doing shit to make rich ppl happy… to eliminate bums, gays, drug addicts.... yeah why are we putting up with this BS? This is just like the movie idiocracy.

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By writerman, March 24, 2007 at 9:19 am #
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My Big Problem with so much of the environmental debate, and the “environmental movement” such as it is, is that I believe the solutions required are of a fundamentally political nature. That is, we have to radically re-define and promote a rebirth in our conception of what “citizenship” means in a democratic society. I suppose I’m talking about power relationships, and nothing like business as usual, tweaking the system, gently persueding industry to be more responsible and “green”. It sound rather utopian and unrealistic, but I believe we need something close to a “Revolution” in how we run society and how power, wealth and responsibility are distributed. What I fear is that “environmentalism” and the “green agenda” will be highjacked by establishment politicians in order to introduce a severely limited and constrained form of post-democratic “democracy” under the guise of saving the planet. This post-democratic society will, not surprisingly, safeguard and defend the lifestyles of the rich and powerful, at the same time as the rest of us are “forced” to change our lives for the good of the planet. I believe and fear we are moving towards a new form of fuedalism, where our leaders rule because they are “good men” and we trust them and their feelings. Blair is a ghastly example of these new men, he is a quasi spiritual leader, a new style monarch, who, at the end of the day feels he is answerable to his own conscience, and God, rather than the electorate or even Parliament.

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By eClaire, March 24, 2007 at 1:02 am #
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Steve,

Even if the solar system is heating up for some unknown reason, it would appear that we humans are contributing to the warming of this planet.  And even if we were not, there would be other compelling reasons to be concerned and make changes regarding our use of fossil fuels.  E.g., oil is not a renewable resource and we cannot keep behaving as if it is.  We need to be developing sustainable sources of energy that do not harm the environment.  If the current crisis helps us do that and also helps our species survives, then who cares how much of global warming is solar sytem generated and how much is human generated?

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By Byron, March 19, 2007 at 1:30 pm #
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Great essay, Stillman. Although you didn’t really unearth any “new information” for me that I didn’t already contemplate or already came across in other stories.

It is a combination of factors in the United States that prevents us from taking the lead in fighting global warming and our current President is definitely a stumbling block. But worse, the electorate who voted for George W. Bush is part of the problem as this country’s “greatmess” continues to be sullied by the myopic and intellectual stuntedness of those people who live in it.

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By ME, March 18, 2007 at 6:17 am #
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I have a question. We know that we had at least 1 ice age right? Well, who warmed the Earth to melt all the ice? ITs pretty obvious that warming happened or all the ice would still be here. Global Warming happens with or without us in that respect.

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By sam, March 18, 2007 at 3:15 am #
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good article, dugg
http://digg.com/environment/Coalition_of_the_Unwilling _Why_Brits_Get_Global_Warming_and_U_S_Doesn_t

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By Mr I P Freely, March 16, 2007 at 8:40 pm #
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ALL i can say, when your cowboys bomb the british, SAYING sorry is SO hard, but it beats the hell better than straffing sheep herders , hell a REAL target EVEN if it was one of owes is better than bombing sheep herders

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By Bert, March 15, 2007 at 3:14 pm #
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Climate, shmimate, this is REALLY about becoming energy-independent. How far are you willing to walk to avoid paying taxes to some guy in the middle east? Let’s talk about all that treasury debt, and what it represents for the country’s future, let’s talk about the Selling Of America, let’s talk about all that patronage, let’s talk about businessmen-turned-politicians-turned-businessmen that can’t keep their facts straight because their sponsors keep telling em to do different stuff, let’s talk about the wholesale deliberate indentureship of the american population so some pro-growth jackass CEO can get his jollies watching people grovel for food stamps. ‘Progress’ ain’t all that, by a long shot, and the longer we have shills, clowns, and charlatans like these in office, the closer we come to giving OUR independence the long kiss goodbye, there. Yaaay, globalization. Yeah.

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By Von Elonde, March 13, 2007 at 10:41 pm #
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For those interested in “new energy technology” info along the lines of that posted by “Mark Goldes”, comment #58133 above, go to http://www.steorn.net (Yes, this is for real, its not a hoax). Also, see http://www.aias.us for the only rigorous physics theory capable of explaining the technology of what has been called “space energy”. Currently accepted physics theory cannot. Keep in mind that Professor Evans’ work is heavily sensored by the “Standard Model” physics establishment and physics publishing houses who all have a huge emotional, financial and credibility investment in the so called “Standard Model”. Emotional investments because entire careers have been spent invested in the standard model. If the theory goes, the careers and Nobel Prizes become questionable. Financial investment because many millions of dollars of taxpayer money has already been spent to build the big accelerators in order to verify predictions of the standard model. Credibility investment because, if a simple, elegant theory is found, and it has been...ECE theory, that is capable of completely unifying all the known forces of nature and explaining all known experimental obvservations, even the currently unexplainable ones, then the millions in taxpayer dollars spent trying to verify the so-called “Standard Model” has been wasted, careers have been spent, and Nobel Prizes have been awarded on the basis of a dead-end theory. The “Standard Model” is anything but a unified theory. Its a hodge-podge patchwork of pieces that is incapable of explaining the breath of experimental observations that ECE theory can explain quite simply and elegantly. In other words, egos are large in physics, so don’t believe the few, loud debunkers whose vindictiveness and unfounded, incredibly destructive, fanatical personal attacks has been documented and whose flawed mathematical arguments have been easily shredded by Professor Evans.

One last thought. With the fanatical, almost religious zeal with which a couple of notorious debunkers have continually attacked Professor Evans at every opportunity and wrecked his family, marriage and career, one has to wonder if these debunkers are on the payroll of big oil who has a vested interest in keeping these technologies secret and this knowledge secret for private exploitation.

Cheers!

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By steve luiting, March 12, 2007 at 5:32 pm #
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Has anyone here read that ALL of the planets in the solar system are heating up and not just this planet? Damn… I know they don’t have farting cows and SUVs on Pluto.

Duhhhh… read up.

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By Mark Goldes, March 12, 2007 at 11:16 am #
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“The world has just 10 years to reverse surging greenhouse gas emissions or risk runaway climate change that could make many parts of the planet uninhabitable.” There are very few steps that can be taken rapidly enough to realistically sharply reduce the need for fossil fuels in 10 years. While all can help, none of the conventional renewable power systems, solar, wind, fuel-cells, etc., can possible meet this challenge. Nuclear power plants take 10 years to begin operation. Clearly, the idea they can contribute to a solution is an illusion.

Only radically new energy conversion systems can do the job. In our opinion, by far the most promising technology is rapid development of Magnetic Power Modules™. Constructed using solid-state electronic components, they are expected to produce electricity indefinitely, without any need for fuel or recharge. This is accomplished by utilizing an abundant, renewable, little known source of energy that is found everywhere in the universe. This energy has never previously been utilized in practical products, although it was probably first tapped by Wesley Gary, a Pennsylvania inventor, in 1874. An article in Harper’s, describing his patented mechanical magnetic devices, was published in 1879. The article can be found on the internet.

A generator without moving parts, apparently converting the same source of energy, was invented in Germany by Hans Coler, about 1926. Eleven years later, he demonstrated a more powerful, 6,000 watt, unit. Consequently, he was supported by the German navy. His laboratory was bombed by the Allies toward the end of World War II. In 1946, British Intelligence published a classified Report suggesting his achievement was genuine. In 1979, a portion of that Report was declassified. Thirty four pages can be found on the web.

This remarkable source of energy is sometimes called the Quantum Vacuum. It is also known as Zero Point Energy, or ZPE. Physicist Richard Feynman, a winner of the Nobel Prize, and John Wheeler, a protege of Einstein’s, calculated there is sufficient ZPE in the volume of a coffee cup to evaporate Earth’s oceans. Physicist Harold Puthoff has said, that if we employed ZPE to power the entire planet, it would be like dipping a thimble into the sea.

The March 1st, 2004 issue of Aviation Week and Space Technology featured an article headlining the fact that Zero Point Energy is no longer science fiction. The Department of Defense admitted it is supporting ZPE research and development at a major aerospace company. BAE, in the U.K., stated they seek to power Mach 4 fighter aircraft, among several other objectives.

Our firms current development work opens a door to a multitude of practical products. They will operate with no need for fuel, or any plug connection to the grid. Modules can be connected together in order to produce larger amounts of power, in a manner analogous to solar cells. Preliminary data suggests a 1 kW (1,000) watt package may be about 6” x 6” x 16” in size. These one kilowatt packages can also be linked to create generators for homes. Distributed Generation of utility grade power can also rapidly be implemented.

Electric cars, such as the recently announced GM VOLT, can dispense with the need for batteries, engines of any kind, fuel cells, or the need to plug-in.All new cars can be redesigned to run on this revolutionary source of energy.
During WWII, the automobile industry shifted to building aircraft on a round the clock basis more rapidly then most would have imagined. Averting a catastrophe due to Global Warming calls for a similar all out effort. Magnetic Power Modules can be produced in most of the world’s electronics factories once the technology is prototyped at the pre-manufacturing stage.

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By yours truly, March 11, 2007 at 6:22 pm #
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Hmm, so it’s going to require radical transnational leadership plus a philosophical realignment away from free market fundamentalism and towards a new regime of environmental regulation along with personal and collective sacrifice?  Doesn’t that translate into our having to change the world?  No problem, though.  because that’s what’s taking place right now, what with our prevailing upon Congress to cut off all funding for the Iraq, then to impeach President George W. Bush II, following which off he goes to the International Court of Criminal Justice, there to be tried for his crimes against humanity, whereupon empire collapses.  And then?  It’ll be up to us.

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By Robert Hutwohl, March 11, 2007 at 3:24 pm #
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Sarah, I just wanted to point out the Al Gore did not and does not use Microsoft PowerPoint. He uses Apple’s Keynote, which is far superior to the former mentioned application

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By Bert, March 11, 2007 at 10:47 am #
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Whaaaaat? Halliburton’s leaving the country?!?!??! What, guilty conscience? LOLOL

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=2941931

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By Bert, March 11, 2007 at 1:46 am #
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They ran an ethanol car at Bonneville, got 173MPH out of it.

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By Sandi Agal, March 9, 2007 at 1:28 pm #
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Sarah Stillman’s article makes a lot of good points.  I’d just seen a CNN clip on the British demanding that the U.N. Security Council take up global warming as a threat to human security....but the U.S. plans to use its veto to block the discussion.  Then I did some googling and came across Stillman’s discussion of why the Brits are out ahead of us in aggressively tackling global warming.

Her best point is the way the U.S. media have used the guise of “objective” reporting to frame global warming as an issue with good arguments on both sides--when in reality virtually all the scientists tell us it’s a very real problem that will have disastrous consequences if we don’t act to limit it.  U.S. media have been far too accepting of the “studies” from the energy industry front groups and right-wing think tanks.  Stillman’s other excellent point is the need for democratizing this whole issue of global warming, so that it isn’t just a discussion between politicians and the oil companies that give them the big donations. 

I was appalled at the way Tony Blair sucked up to Bush and went along with the Iraq debacle.  But Truthdig is right on this one...the Brits are out ahead of us on global warming.  Thanks to you writer for a lively, well-crafted explanation of why.

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By d, March 9, 2007 at 3:38 am #
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“Bearchested”? The hirsute male rules.Lots of tangled threads, but too much like a fair isle sweater, starting with the first paragraph. Not something I would pass to my students seeking a path to follow.

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By KatieL, March 8, 2007 at 9:37 am