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Robert Scheer is editor in chief of Truthdig. He is a nationally syndicated columnist, author of seven books and a co-host of the political radio program "Left, Right and Center."
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Robert Scheer: Gaping Holes in the 9/11 NarrativeA Dig led by Robert ScheerFive years out from the attacks, why do we still know so little about what really happened that day? What we still dont know about 9/11 could kill us. By “we I mean the public that has been kept in the dark for five years by a president who may know the truth but has chosen to ignore it. Instead of grappling with the thorny origins of that disaster, George Bush willfully turned the nation’s attention and resources to a totally unrelated and disastrous imperial adventure in Iraq. The story was much different in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, the two countries that had recognized and otherwise supported the Taliban government that hosted bin Laden during the run-up to 9/11. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, and yet there has been no serious investigation of the extended royal familys role in the recruitment of bin Laden’s soldiers” and the ease with which they secured legal visas to enter the United States. Nor has there been any credible accounting of the role of Pakistan’s intelligence community, then and now, in support of Islamic terrorists on both sides of the Pakistan-Afghan border. Or in the passage of Pakistans nuclear secrets to what Bush refers to as “rogue nations.” Recall that the predominant excuse for invading Iraq was the claim that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and would be willing to pass them on to rogue regimes and terrorists. Not only were such weapons not found, but the evidence from the accounts of former administration insiders and the Senate Intelligence Committee makes clear that the administration was consciously cherry-picking the evidence to shore up its fraudulent case. There were weapons of mass destruction being shipped to “rogue nations, but they were coming from Pakistan in an extensive program headed by Abdul Qadeer (A.Q.) Khan, the father of the “Islamic bomb.” The Pakistan government has admitted that Khan passed on to North Korea, Libya and Iran technical know-how and vital materials for the creation of nuclear weapons. But Khan was pardoned of any crimes by Pakistan’s dictator general, President Gen. Pervez Musharraf. Khan is restricted only by a loose form of house arrest and has never been made available to U.S. investigators. Yet the Bush administration dropped the sanctions originally imposed on Pakistan in reprisal for its development of nuclear weapons in return for Pakistans support in the “war on terror.” As for Afghanistan, the Taliban is on the rise. NATO commanders last week urgently requested more troops, and the country is now torn by the anarchy of a narco-state that is supplying 92% of the world’s heroin market and generating massive profits for gangsters and terrorists alike. The country is now as dangerous for American soldiers as is Iraq. Despite this sorry record of neglect in Southwest Asia and the creation of a quagmire and recruiting poster for terrorism in Iraq, Bush once again arrogantly asserts that his policies have made us safer, even as he has undermined our domestic freedoms and mocked the U.S. commitment to international law, particularly concerning the treatment of prisoners. Last week, Bush conceded that there were indeed secret CIA prisons, when finally announcing that the group of “key witnesses” to the 9/11 disaster would be moved to Guantanamo and for once afforded visits from the Red Cross and minimal legal representation. Some of them have been interrogated in secret for up to five years, with the Bush administration left as the sole interpreter of what they revealed. After five years of official deceit, it is not too difficult to believe that the isolation of those prisoners was done less for reasons of learning the truth about 9/11 and more in an effort to politically manage the narrative released to the public. There is glaring evidence that the latter was the case. The 9/11 Commission report contains a disclaimer box on page 146, in which it is stated that the report’s account of what happened on 9/11 was in considerable measure based on what those key witnesses allegedly told interrogators, and that the commissioners were not allowed to meet the witnesses or their interrogators. We submitted questions for use in the interrogations, but had no control over whether, when or how questions of particular interest would be asked. Nor were we allowed to talk to the interrogators so that we could better judge the credibility of the detainees and clarify ambiguities in the reporting.” In short, the most cited source that we have on what happened on 9/11, the much celebrated 9/11 Commission Report, was stage-managed by the Bush administration, just as it has controlled and distorted so much other information. In light of that sorry record of the propagandistic exploitation of the 9/11 tragedy for partisan political purpose, is it any wonder that large numbers of Americans have doubts about all of it and that a considerable industry of documentaries and investigative reports has sprung up with alternative theories ranging from the plausible to the absurd? In the sidebar to the left, we offer some examples of the better of those efforts, not by way of endorsing them but rather because there is so much reason to doubt the “truth” as the Bush administration has packaged it.
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By Charles Stegiel, September 11, 2006 at 6:12 pm #
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Bob I respected you when you wrote that excellent book “With Enough Shovels.” Truth digging takes I reckon a few more, bu7t hey, you and I both know that a little dirt and plastic and a door and a slit trench will protect us from evil Ayrabs. Bob, you seem to be Gatekeeper. C’mon mon, anyone with a brain knows 9/11 was an inside job.
4-Ton Girders: Blowing in the Wind?
David Chandler / 911SpeakOut.org | September 10 2006
4-ton girders were found as much as 600 feet from the
Report thisbase of the North Tower of the World Trade Center
after its collapse. This raises ... all » obvious
questions. How fast must they have been ejected from
the collapsing building to land that far away? What
forces were at work to give such massive structures
high horizontal velocities? If anything besides
gravity was at work, pandora’s box is opened up.
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By Dalon, September 11, 2006 at 5:33 pm #
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Lets be honest, conicidences of such magnitude rarely occur. The government line is dubious at best. And when you are the most powerful group of people in the world, it probably isn’t as hard as it is for others to sweep evidence under the rug. If this is truly a conspiracy, those involved would never allow that information to see the light of day. All the same, common sense serves me well enough.
Every agenda the administration and GOP aspired to accomplish was served a glowing green light as a result of 9/11. The same companies that benefited from the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, are the same companies that benefited from this administration’s domestic and environmental policies. What does the Bush Family, Cheney, Rice, and the rest have in common? They are all former oil company executives. What does the Middle East hold? OPEC and the world’s largest oil reserves. Which government in the middle east is closest with Bush family, has the American oil companies by the throat, and would be directly benefited by the Iraqi and Afghan regimes’ ouster? Saudi Arbia. What has been the overarching economic platform of this administration? Breaks to corporations and big business. What was concluded at Cheney’s secret energy meeting (so secret that he fought all the way to the Supreme Court to keep hidden from the public) with Ken Lay and the Oil Company Executives, after which gas prices and energy costs skyrocketed? The results do not require the proof be shown. The overarching political philosophy guiding their movements? Pure free market captalism, the abolition of all social programs and worker protections, and privatization. In short, they want to resurrect the post Civil War America that lasted until the 30’s, where the wealthy held the power and the other 95% lived by their will.
If you want to see the most guilty person in appearance you’ll ever see, watch a clip of Bush’s press conference in the Rose Garden following he and Cheney’s “conversation” with the 9/11 commission (It was a conversation they refused to conduct under oath. This was after their efforts to block the formation of an investigative body were exhausted).
Sorry, I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but when a coincedence is so extrodinary, it is usually not a coincidence.
Report thisBy Perry Logan, September 11, 2006 at 5:30 pm #
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Er…all 9/11 conspiracies are crap.
There are now three excellent one-stop debunking sites, where the whole fantasy gets deconstructed:
Report thishttp://www.911myths.com/
http://www.debunking911.com/
http://internetdetectives.biz/case/loose-change
By wayne, September 11, 2006 at 5:28 pm #
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It’s called “realpolitik”, folks.
The fact that truth has nothing to do with politics in this world.
I don’t see many here complaining about the fact that Clinton almost completely ignored this problem for his entire term. Some of the covering up Bush has done has been for Clinton’s people to keep us from having a national scandal in time of war.
And if anyone thinks that either Clinton or Bush were going to go after the Saudi’s EVEN AFTER A 911 type incident, you are nuts.
$10 billion in quarterly oil profits means you get to dictate terms to even the US government and most of Exxonmobil’s and several of the other big oil companies’ money comes from the Saudi’s.
Not to mention the fact that much the entirety of the family fortunes of many in Congress (Senator Jay Rockefeller and his family is EXXONMOBIL and much of the the Bush family fortune consists of oil interests in Saudi Arabia and the Middle East.
Throw in the games of China, Russia, and Europe all with a huge percentage of their economies and energy tied up in the Arabs and you get a mess that no amount of truth, justice, or even decency will ever be done.
We went into Iraq so we could get our troops out of Saudi Arabia and influence Iran.
You think Bush could tell anyone that he hoped that by getting our troops off of Islamic Holy Ground this would reduce maybe the biggest complaint of bin Laden and his followers (not to mention the fear and or anger of the rest of the Saudi Royal family). We couldn’t do that while Saddamn was still in power.
How do you think the Iranians have reacted to the fact that we have troops on both sides of them? How do you think they would have reacted if Bush actually admitted he planned to invade?
Realpolitik.
In the old days it was called “playing the great game of nations”. Always let them think you are reacting from a position of strength. Always work for your own advantage while accusing everyone else of being selfish. If someone does get strong (and acts on their strength) everyone gets together to bring them down.
The game has never changed.
The most important thing is never, ever tell the truth…especially to your own people. They will never accept the means you use to further the nation.
You guys need to read Machiavelli sometime.
I promise you both Clinton and Bush have.
Report thisBy FuzzFlash, September 11, 2006 at 4:43 pm #
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“Daddy, what’s an inside job?”
Report thisDont be silly,Virginia, and go back to sleep like a good girl or Santa Claus wont come.
“Sure, Daddy, I love it so when you watch over me….g’night.”
By Donovan Hixson, September 11, 2006 at 4:32 pm #
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In response to comment #22743, would it matter if Bush & Co. release such pieces of evidence like the black boxes from all of the hijacked planes? It’s been so long since 9/11 that anything they release now would be suspect.
It’s too late for Bush & Co. to save themselves; they need to resign or we need to fire them before things get worse.
Report thisBy patrick, September 11, 2006 at 4:08 pm #
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The ascendancy of the Bush Administration to power was a squandered opportunity for humanity to progress into a higher state of mass consciousness. Instead of leading the world into a 21st century golden age, we were deceived back into a brutal age of rape, pillage and murder; a barbaric age where a human life no longer has value.
We watch and we cry as this modern Roman Empire lashes out in its death throes of collapse. But this time it is in high speed. It will not take decades and decades to collapse; it will take but a few more years. Sadly, it is the innocents that will be crushed by this behemoth when it falls.
The question is now, will humanity fall into a new dark age or will there appear a shining light to guide us out of this dark cave we have been led into? The answer lies within us all.
Report thisBy Dawn Storm, September 11, 2006 at 3:34 pm #
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Dear Robert Sheer:
Thank you for broaching the gaping questions left by the official 9/11 Commission’s report. Two questions in particular pique my “whodunnit” radar.
1. Who placed put options on United Airlines stock just prior to the 9/11 attacks and why did they never bother to collect the proceeds?
“The fact that $2.5 million of the put options remained unclaimed is not explained at all by market pessimism, and is evidence that the put option purchasers were part of a criminal conspiracy.” http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html
2. What caused WTC Building #7 to collapse when it was not struck by a plane nor fire?
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html
I would welcome Truthdigs perspective on both of these unanswered questions.
Report thisBy jjohnjj, September 11, 2006 at 3:30 pm #
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Walt Disney was right wing, for sure… but I would not say the same about Michael Eisner and Steve Jobs.
Their children’s entertainment has been pretty good for the last fifteen years, promoting racial tolerance, respect for the environment, empowerment of women and the basic egalitarian Ameican values we used to see in Frank Capra films.
Over the last five years I found ABC’s News and Sunday talk shows far less aggravating than CBS and NBC.
If ABC is running a docudrama that benefits the GOP, there’s probably a specific reason… some business before Congress, the FCC or a federal court somewhere.
The networks are not powerless. They negotiate for advantage in a complex relationship between themselves, their sponsors, their parent corporations and government regulators. They use use their influence both for and against the party in power, as a carrot and a stick.
The “Road to 9/11” is just one more step in the dance.
Report thisBy Broiler, September 11, 2006 at 3:07 pm #
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Robert,
This is an excellent dig on this infamous occasion. Here is a day that should invoke shared grief and sympathy for anyone touched by this tragedy. On this fifth anniversary everyone should be taking a sliver of comfort knowing that the perpetrators had been found and knowing justice will be served. By this time the world should be safer for all those that did not perish and we know that is not the case. There is no closure, none was expected. What was expected was that today we would have moved forward grieving. Instead we are all still digging through the rubble of ground zero searching for any remains of America.
Listening to WABC (NY, NY) radio on the way to work this morning, they mentioned a group of conspiracy theorists clashing with mourners and first responders at ground zero. Apparently the group was holding banners asking pointed questions. They were obviously hoping the coverage would get their message out and the mourners were outraged at the seeming disrespect. What a tragedy for both sides. The worst part is that all of these people are on the same side and our government will not let it be known.
It is evident from the posts here that the terms conspiracy, black boxes, security footage, collusion, deathbed confessions, Illuminati, Israeli connection, wag the dog, Saudi royal family, propaganda and disinformation are stuck in the minds of thinking Americans. Political opposition to the Bush regime has been slow and half-hearted in acknowledging these terms and demanding the information that would put the conspiracy theories to rest. Why is that? By challenging the Bush administration do you risk personal attack? In general do we still equate conspiracy theorists with crackpots?
Is it possible that we are dealing with a one party system?
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Wizard of Oz
Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas anymore. Dorothy
I am mentally numb from thinking of these possibilities. Perhaps
that is the outcome that was hoped for. Americans too naïve, incredulous,
tired and confused to question the reality that has been offered.
My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone that
is mourning this day.
“Don’t give up, don’t ever give up.” - Jim Valvano
Report thisBy L. Gordon, September 11, 2006 at 3:02 pm #
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Re: Comment #22738 by kevin99999:
It is a well known fact that Walt Disney himself was an anti-semite. He would be very proud to push the right wing agenda as it exits today; apparently.
Report thisBy SADBOY, September 11, 2006 at 2:51 pm #
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IT IS ALL ABOUT NATURAL RESOURCES….AND HOW MULTINATION(USA MAINLY) CAN STEAL IT AND CONTROL IT. AFGHANISTAN IS ABOUT NATURAL GAS…..RESEARCH,READ AND LEARN THE TRUTH.
Report thisBy Archers, September 11, 2006 at 2:49 pm #
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Sorry to bust your bubble,but Bin Laden has been dead since 1999. And those terrrrrorists-oh ! my god—19 of them and most from Saudia Arabia—and none from Iraq—-What !—Quack ! Quack!
Report thisIf it was a black flag operation by Israel/USa,they would have used-paid—Iraqies. But that didn’t happen because just after the WTC downings—the FBI—like majic pulledout of the waste bin—19 terrrrorits ( as Sharonie would have said).
Here is my take—the 19 were not Arabs——Marvin Bush, David Silverstein, Randy Jewalinie, Big Dick Chenny, Village Idiot G.W. Bush’it,Wolfowitz, Pearl, Libby and the 5 dancing Jews.
What fools abound in USA—-Another operation isin the works—-be patient fools-it’s about to happen.
Cheers !
By Frederick Riley, September 11, 2006 at 2:47 pm #
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Ouly people that can be hurt by this is the ones that was in it but you may not thank of the kids. can you think of your slfe as a kid playing kids 4-13 not knowing what to do or how to react. And looking awond you and your mom and dad ios not to be found. just ever one run yalling and not one person stoping to help you
its sad. and now look at them kids all alow and no one to hold them ans some diyed all over that one day.
~God bless~
Report thisBy Steve Burge, September 11, 2006 at 2:26 pm #
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Excellent, as always, Mr. Scheer. I would like to read your thoughts on the article “PANIC MONGERS COULDN’T BE MORE WRONG”, by Ted Galen Carpenter (of the Cato Institute), that was splashed all over the editiorial section of Sundays paper. Especially these ridiculous comments…“Whereas once we carpet bombed our adversaries, we now pursue largely nonmilitary tactics.” Oh, Really? I’m sure our soldiers fighting in the civil war in Iraq and the people we carpet bombed in Afghanistan would be surprised to hear that. And, the public might wonder what has bankrupted our treasury, if it isn’t “Military Tactics”?
Report thisThen he says that “Gingrich, Podhoretz, and other panicmongers do a great disservice by exagerating (terrorisms) threats. Is he noticing that the seeds of terrorism which we are planting in Iraq and Afaghanistan are resulting in an ever-increasing bumper crop of America Haters, who will never, ever forgive and forget what we have done to their homeland and their people.
The propaganda pumped out by the mainstream press will increase in shrill denial, the closer we get to the upcoming elections. Steve
By felicity, September 11, 2006 at 2:02 pm #
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Mr. Scheer, you may have answered a question that has been gnawing at me for some time. Why the warrantless wiretaps? (The Bushco line of defense would be laughed out of any courtroom.) “...to politically manage the narrative released to the public.”
Besides the obvious that the FISA court would not have issued warrants based on frivolous reasons for needing them, by not going the warrant route, going the secret route at the outset makes it more likely that in the end any information gathered from prisoners can be kept secret - obviously more conducive toward (managing the narrative released to the public.) The looming conclusion is that some prisoners could reveal information calling into question or even refuting the narrative coming out of DC.
Why torture? There is not a counter-intelligence agent alive who recommends torture as an effective way to gather viable intelligence. Setting aside possible sadistic tendencies of interrogators, we are left to assume that torture was used for some other reason. Anybody have any ideas why?
Report thisBy Spinoza, September 11, 2006 at 2:02 pm #
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Today’s Democracy Now has a debate on the movie Loose Change. The problem with the conspiracy theories is that they don’t make sense in that there are too many witnesses. I don’t trust the Bushites but I don’t think they are that smart either.
As I’ve said before, if anything, the administration should have raised an alarm concerning a threat that they were warned about before the attack—- but I can understand why they didn’t. On the other hand not giving a warning can be conceived of as a conspiracy if the motivation was political in nature. We can’t know that one way or another.
We do know that the Bushites used the attack to achieve their ideological/political goals but that is another story. Most all right wingers were very very happy about the attack, especially Jewish right wingers who were gloating that now they can get the USA to go after the ragheads, their enemies.
On the other hand the recent scare about the attack on cross Atlantic planes was clearly politically manipulated and was done very stupidly so that Blair and Bush looked like crooks to anyone but mainstream audiences that where already convinced that they were under attack.
What we have to worry about is the manipulation to start the war against Iran and we need thousands and thousands of people in the streets. PLEASE PLEASE go to a World can’t Wait demonstration near you on October 5th. (worldcan’twait.org)
Report thisBy Joseph, September 11, 2006 at 1:50 pm #
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The official account of the 9-11 attack on America is actually a conspiracy theory, given that it lacks much credible proof. It is therefore subject to being judged on the same basis as any other conspiracy theory. Unless the events of 9/11 are discussed openly and without apprehension, nothing else is real.
The need for a new honest, public, civil debate about what REALLY happened on 9/11 is made apparent by the Zogby poll results that indicate that close to fifty percent of Americans do not fully accept as complete or accurate, the 9/11 Commission Report, or the findings made by government scientists from the National Institute of Standards and Technology regarding the collapses of World Trade Center Buildings 1 & 2 & 7 (7 was never hit by a plane).
Report thisBy Yoda, September 11, 2006 at 1:11 pm #
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Better than nothing, but pretty bad in my opinion.
Robert, can read? Do you know how to think for yourself?
Why do you avoid the deep subject and couch your “argument” in utterly cliched political phrasings?
“In light of that sorry record of the propagandistic exploitation of the 9/11 tragedy for partisan political purpose, is it any wonder that large numbers of Americans have doubts about all of it…”
This is just bs. What about the destroyed evidence, the witnesses who heard secondary explosions in the towers, the free-fall speed, Shanksville, etc., etc.?
Robert, LOOK AT THE F*CKING EVIDENCE AND DRAW YOUR CONCLUSIONS FROM THAT.
This is no time for more wimpy rhetoric from lefty gate-keepers.
Sorry, it’s better than nothing, but it’s just a few crumbs.
Report thisBy david morrison, September 11, 2006 at 1:09 pm #
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the events of 911 have given transparency to two things (among others). that bush and his hired killers were responsible (http://www.911truth.org) and that the u.s. press is complicit in a cover-up. the international press has done an adequate job of uncovering what is absolutely taboo here. in a country where the entire mainstream media in all its forms is owned by 5 corporations.
Report thisBy Lee Driver, September 11, 2006 at 1:01 pm #
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Thank you Mr. Scheer for kicking it up.
How do those high level planning sessions go do you figure?
Does someone actually say out loud with a straight face, “We don’t need to do that much to prevent attacks, we only need to look like we are?
Does saying were doing everything we can to help Katrina victims suffice?
Do these men actually discuss in earnest, color coded terror alerts and longer security check lines at the airport in the same planning session where they discuss selling the ports to Dubai?
Isn’t this about the most delicate conflict of interest scenario ever, where the very individuals charged with protecting us are the ones who stand to benefit the most, in the polls and, along with their base, financially, from more threats and further attacks?
The very thing needed to set the PNAC in motion it was said, was a Pearl Harbor type catalyst. What catalyzing types of events do you figure have been kicked around in the strategy meetings regarding the stage management of the upcoming elections?
And now these planners, who are our fellow citizens, are directing us to view the Islamic extremist threat as similar to the Nazis in their run up to starting WWII, and warning us that those appeasers among us are aid and comfort to the enemy.
Do these very important men, our fellow Americans, in these very important secret high level strategic planning sessions know, do you figure, when they decide on employing such historical references, that in a related reference, when the very important highly placed planner Hermann Goering was asked by the prison psychologist during the Nuremburg trials, how did you get the people to go along, he said quote:
Of course, the people dont want war Its the leaders who determine the policy and the people can always be made to do the leaders bidding. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism.
Do these fellow Americans leaders of ours, who have their hand on our tiller, consider do you figure, when they run this stuff out to us that its possible were not just a bunch of idiots?
Have they planned for that?
Report thisBy wkirkland, September 11, 2006 at 1:01 pm #
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Good, Robert. Don’t forget the Popular Mechanics look at the various theories:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
Report thisBy Kevin Fenton, September 11, 2006 at 12:55 pm #
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I’d just like to point out that the US intelligence community was following three of the hijackers of American 77, which crashed into the Pentagon, before 9/11. Link to minutes of a meeting at which Donald Rumsfeld was told this on 9/11:
http://www.outragedmoderates.org/images/cambone_notes_9-11-01_9.53PM.pdf
I’d also like to point out that the NSA intercepted several calls made by the hijackers. For example, the LA Times says: “The current and former counter-terrorism officials, who requested anonymity, said there were repeated phone communications between a safe house in Yemen and the San Diego apartment rented by Alhazmi and Almihdhar. The Yemen site already had been linked directly to the Al Qaeda bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa in 1998 and to the 2000 bombing of the U.S. destroyer Cole in Yemen, several current and former U.S. counter-terrorism officials familiar with the case said. Those links made the safe house one of the “hottest” targets being monitored by the NSA before the Sept. 11 attacks, and had been so for several years, the officials said.”
http://www.unknownnews.org/0512231221whopperoftheday.html
I’m completely biased, but I think the 9/11 Timeline is the best source of info. You can find it here:
Report thishttp://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
By Dan Noel, September 11, 2006 at 12:53 pm #
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As an engineer, when I watched the collapses, I instinctively thought “Who designed these things? Who built them? Who verified the work? They are in big trouble…”
I also remember wondering why the top of one tower would seem to tilt sideways as if it was going to fall by the side of the building, only to be quickly disappear in a big cloud.
Well, after quickly viewing related videos in Robert’s links, I have to admit that the demolition hypothesis would explain a few things…
Could it be that president Bush never learnt from “The Godfather” the paramount importance of identifying the true enemies of the United States before launching a full-scale action against them?
Report thisBy bob kealy, September 11, 2006 at 12:19 pm #
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Martin Amis’s account in the Sept 10th Observer (UK) “The Age of Horrorism” exposes the incompetency of the GOP in providing our country with national security at home and abroad since Bush fils took office in January 2001. The GOP should be removed from office in every way possible.
Report thisBy Old Atlantic, September 11, 2006 at 12:12 pm #
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This is what the US press needs to start talking about. The UK press has freely discussed Pakistan’s role for years, but the US press has put its credibility behind the Bush 9-11 Commission Narrative.
The keeping of al Qaeda prisoners away from the 9-11 Commission, lawyers, judges, and the FBI needs to be emphasized. Why did they want to nab someone from under Italy’s nose so badly? The US press uses crackpot conspiracy theories to avoid discussion of real gaps in the Bush and 9-11 Commission reports.
Report thisBy Ricardo, September 11, 2006 at 12:10 pm #
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And now what?
Report thisAnybody with any level of consciousness knew all of this from the begining. We know that all that has been said and done to this very day is propaganda and disinformation.
What happened to us the people that have been caniving with them from the begining?
By Mike de Martino, September 11, 2006 at 11:50 am #
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When our country invaded Iraq, I knew that they were lying about WMD. Paul Wolfowitz said at the time that WMD was the most plausible excuse for going in, (not that it was true). I thought that since the US had propped up Sadam Husseins regime for so many years and killed over a quater million Iraqis in the first gulf war, we owed it to the Iraqi people to rid them of Sadam and release them from UN sanctions. Unfortunitly, the deceit of this administration has blinded us to what the real intentions of the Bush crowd are. Oil and the control of oil. Bush says we are addicted to oil. I say god damn, god damn the pusher man.
We know what lies they have told us. Let’s focus on the lies they are telling us now. Our troops return is overdue.
Nuke there ass and take the gas is not a policy that will serve us well in the long run.
Report thisBy kevin99999, September 11, 2006 at 11:47 am #
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A silent prayer for those who perished on 9/11 and tens of thousands perished in Iraq and elsewhere.
Report thisBy Don Howard, September 11, 2006 at 11:42 am #
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Keep up the great work, Mr. Scheer! We need to hit these bastards with the truth and keep hitting them hard with it. As Harry Truman said, “I didn’t give them hell - I just told the truth and they thought it was hell.”
Report thisGive them hell, Mr. Scheer.
By Thomas McCullock, September 11, 2006 at 10:49 am #
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quote: yet there has been no serious investigation of the extended Royal familys roll in the recruitment of bin Ladens soldiers
bin Laden is determined to overthrow the Saudi royal family, why do you think they would have helped him?
Sorry, but that makes no sense at all.
Report thisBy Peter Weisbrod, September 11, 2006 at 10:15 am #
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Good Morning,
Where is Molly Ivins’ column and all the others?
Greetings,
Peter
Report thisBy harsaru, September 11, 2006 at 10:13 am #
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Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.Hmmmm
Thing is I can understand why Successive American Governments have supported The Extremely repressive regime in Saudi Arabia (OIL OIL OIL) But Pakistan??????
Somebody tell me whats going on. The only 2 countries that really gained any advantage from the war on terror are Pakistan - Lots of aid - and Israel- even More aid and MORE weapons AND a blind eye turned to the increasing repression in the occupied territories and don’t forget that stupid(EVIL?) wall.
And how come everyone who demands more information about the events of 9/11 and after is dismissed as a conspiracy nut?
Whatever happened to freedom of information?
And the saddest thing of all is that the terrorists have won in a way. I mean - the point of terror is to create terror and everything you see or hear especially in America is all about feeling ‘Vulnerable’ and ‘less secure’and ‘making America safer’
All ‘Osama’ has do do is release a videotape saying he is planning more attacks (and this has happened on a regular basis over the last five years) and Bingo! FEAR!
America is HUGE and there has been this ONE time something (admittedly awful) happened.
Try living in Iraq
Report thisOr Afghanistan
Or Sudan
Or in the Occupied Territories.
By debrianna mansini, September 11, 2006 at 9:55 am #
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i wonder if anyome else has had that Limbaugh piece forwarded to them about how much money the 9/11 victims were awarded? i feel it is a way for the right to “wag the dog” away from the real reason they were given this “hush” money. he says we are living in 50 yrs. of entitlement and then lists all the money the gov. won’t give to the military… it is bizarre because i am sure he is not asking for a democratic vote… does anyone have anything to add?? see article
By Rush Limbaugh:
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> >I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September
> 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No
> one is really talking about it either, because you just don’t criticize anything
> having to do with September 11. Well, I can’t let the numbers pass by because it
> says something really disturbing about the
> >entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the
> September 11 attack, you’re going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is
> a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.
> >
> >
> >If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action,
> the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is
> taxable.
> >
> >Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get
> $833 a month until you remarry. And there’s a payment of $211 per month for each
> child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching
> halt.
> >
> >Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185
> million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it’s not enough. Their deaths
> were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong
> time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their
> families know the dangers.
> >
> >We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma
> City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the
> September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of
> those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.
> >
> >You see where this is going, don’t you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over
> 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It’s just really sad. Every
> time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing
> of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their
> families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make
> sense?
> >
> >However, our own U.S. Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don’t know
> that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more
> than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They
> did not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn’t have to pay
> into the system.
> >If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they
> may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them
> in harm’s way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.
> >
> >I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks
> before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and
> daughters who are now fighting
> >” When do we finally do something about this?” If this doesn’t seem fair to
> you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.
> >
By John Darling, September 11, 2006 at 9:22 am #
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I just finished watching “Flight 93”, the A&E Channel’s moving film version of what happened aboard that ill fated flight of five years past.
As I watched it, a myriad of emotions swept through me, the main one being the feeling of pride. Pride that these American’s, facing their doom, stood up to a real threat not only to their lives but to the lives of other Americans. I also felt great anger towards the invaders who dared to come into our country with the sole purpose of killing anyone unlucky enough to have been caught up in their evil schemes.
After the show, I mulled over all the things that I had seen and felt. As I did so another emotion came over me. It was an emotion that was greater than all those that had previously moved me. That emotion was one of intense outrage. The source of my outrage stemmed from a realization that I had come to.
I realized that the brave people on that plane did more to fight terrorism in what little time they had left in their lives than Bush and his cronies have done in the half decade that has past since that fateful day.
The people aboard Flight 93 took positive action aimed directly at those responsible for the criminal acts. Unlike Bush and his cronies, they did not attack another party who had absolutely nothing to with the transgressions.
As the anniversary of 9/11/2001 approaches we must remember the bravery shown by these people and remember that they were ordinary people, just like you and I, who stood up brave and proud and fought the terrorist to their death.
At the same time we must not forget those who insisted we invade Iraq while ignoring the real perpetrator who was hiding out in the caves of Afghanistan.
Instead of going after Osama Bin Laden, Bush and his gang invaded Iraq for reasons not yet known-no matter how many thousands of times they claim they did it to fight the “war on terror”.
We now know that they callously used the deaths of the brave people of Flight 93 and all the other victims of the attacks as an excuse to rape and pillage two countries, Iraq and America, while not making either one an iota safer than they were prior to that horrific day.
Well the time has come for this to end. It is time for the rest of us ordinary Americans to send Bush and his foot soldiers a message. It is time we make them accountable for their vile behavior by throwing them out of office. We must stand up like the people on Flight 93 and tell them that we will fight wrongdoing at all costs, especially wrongdoings perpetrated by our government.
It is time that we make America a strong and proud country once more; a country that the people on Flight 93 would be proud to live in.
Report thisBy Richard Gilbert, September 11, 2006 at 8:37 am #
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Remember whose watch it was On 9/11
As more facts emerge that support those who knew Iraq was a mistake and those who were genuinely puzzled that the US was going to attack Iraq, the counter argument being pressed by the right is that those who hold these views hate Bush, and therefore that nullifies any fact that is presented. I speak of the Senate Intel committee with a Republican majority that unequivocally stated there were no ties between Al Qaeda and Iraq, and no WMD in Iraq. Very recently Condoleezza Rice said: there were ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda she then weasel worded it: of course we are going to learn more in time. Hurry up, madam secretary you havent learned a thing since you ignored the CIA and Richard Clarkes warnings in the Spring and Summer of 2001.
Report thisLets remember one key fact in all of this. September 11, 2001 happened on George Bush’s watch. He was asleep in Crawford and ignored the concerns of the Intel community, Rice was inept, and yet Bush gets high marks as Mr. Security. Go figure!P.T. Barnum could not have sold that bill of goods to the dumbest of rubes in the circus.
By osisbs, September 11, 2006 at 8:32 am #
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Saudi Hijackers? Why were their names not on the passenger lists? Why were they living with FBI informants and taking flying lessons on navy bases? If you want the truth, just google “flight of the bumbleplanes” and read on. Now we have the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, and the Official 9/11 Story to believe in (oh yes, and My Pet Goat).
Report thisBy James W. von Brunn, September 11, 2006 at 8:18 am #
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1) Who BENEFITTED MOST from 9-11 ? The answer tells much. 2)ODIGO warnings provide the Israeli
connection. 3)Blg. #7 proves internal explosives were used;proves Silverstein’s complicity; proves 9-11 was a false-flag operation. ETC.
USS LIBERTY, TONKIN GULF, 9-11, et al, illustrate ILLUMINATI control over Americas’s once great Republic.
Report thisBy Spinoza, September 11, 2006 at 6:23 am #
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Excellent critique of conspiracy theories.
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn09092006.html
Report thisBy Dr. Suzy, September 11, 2006 at 6:13 am #
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Just imagine if our President, instead of calling for war, had called for peace. Just imagine if he had exhorted us to follow the Bonobo Way instead of acting like baboons. Just imagine if he’d focused America’s energy on tracking down and trying Osama instead of murdering all those innocents in his so-called Terror War. Just imagine if he’d reminded us that the best revenge is living well. Just imagine if he’d told us not to be afraid, and not to let sheer terror guide our hearts or our missiles. Some of us would have felt frustrated. But America would have proven itself to be a true Beacon of Hope. Then we could take real pride in remembering this day.
http://www.drsusanblock.com/blog
Report thisBy Paul Kibbey, September 11, 2006 at 3:10 am #
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I will be anxious to hear your take on the “Path to 9/11” ABC TV docu-drama. I’m thinking that now the Republican have a better chance to keep their power in the upcoming election. The bigger the lie the more easily it is believed. ABC already presented some “balanced discussion” on the controversy. If nobody aggressively picks this apart where people can see it the lie they are presenting will be taken as the truth and people will vote down those dems, those cut and runners without cajones. ABC is riding untethered in Bush’s saddle, and look ma, no advertisements!
Report thisBy Charles Newlin, September 11, 2006 at 2:47 am #
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Hoo, boy, have you unleashed the whirlwind.
Your article is excellent, though, and your point well taken: the flood of alternative theories is a response to the fragmentary, sometimes implausible nature of the official story - and the established fact that it emanates from a pack of liars, the Bush administration.
I have to agree that the “conspiracists” are better at questioning the official theory than at providing plausible answers. That is hardly surprising, considering the pall of mystery and lies that shrouds the subject. I fear we will know very little till the deathbed confessions start.
It’s important, though, to remember what we do know, because it’s in the report: The Bush admin. were extensively, urgently warned, and chose to do nothing, except for suppressing some investigations - notably, those that pointed to Saudi involvement with Al Qaeda. What we do not know is motive. In brief, was it criminal negligence, or a judgement that such an attack would do their agenda a world of good - as indeed it did. “Cui bono?”, the traditional starting point of any murder investigation, points directly to the Bushies, as they benefitted more than anyone else. That justifies a great deal of suspicion, but proves nothing by itself.
Evidently, I favor the theory that they knew but chose to let it happen. That is bad enough. For that matter, mere negligence, clearly established by the official record, is more than enough reason to ride them out of town on a rail.
Now the question that bothers me the most: why have the Democrats entirely failed to call them to account on this point? It is really the central conclusion of the 9/11 Comm. Report. The political silence has been deafening, and amounts to collusion. They ran out of excuses a long time ago. Does anyone have an explanation? Perhaps that should be your next “Dig.”
Report thisBy gnocchi, September 11, 2006 at 12:56 am #
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Thanks for this, Robert. So much better than a previous post calling all 9/11 conspiracies “crap”.
The Bush admin could obliterate every 9/11 conspiracy theory simply by releasing evidence they MUST have if their story is even remotely true. Where are the black boxes? Where is the security footage of the Pentagon collision? Where are the interviews with the air traffic controllers?
Until we see this evidence, we should continue to accuse them directly, loudly and publicly. Whether their conclusions are right or wrong, the conspiracy theorists are performing a great public service by focusing scorn and suspicion on this criminal administration.
Report thisBy kevin99999, September 11, 2006 at 12:15 am #
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Disney is a rightwing organization and to ensure that children are infected with its rightwing ideology, all people of good conscience should boycott Disney’s product and services and look for alternatives.
We all know that ABC, being a corporate media outlet, is a tool of corporate and rightwing propaganda. They push us into iraq war and are still busy manipulating facts events, and lying, to justify their agenda. It does not matter to them if thousands of people die in the process.
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