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Posted on Mar 24, 2011

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By EJH, March 26, 2011 at 9:53 pm Link to this comment

“OK—No Hope, No Change—But We Use Lubrication”

Perfect.  “Lubrication” is the only thing that
differentiates Democrats from Republicans.

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By glider, March 26, 2011 at 9:14 pm Link to this comment

Good cartoon, the Obama phenomena was certainly a brand image sold through a slick advertising campaign.  The actual product has been proven to be sorely lacking.  The 2012 advertising slogan if honest should be “OK—No Hope, No Change—But We Use Lubrication”.

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By Deck Chairman, March 25, 2011 at 11:15 pm Link to this comment
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Fortunately, Tab is still available east of the Mississippi. I try to have one a day:
Better living through chemistry…

The Obama brand has definitely gone off, though. Nothing like a bit of torture and
slaughter of innocents to test the faithful. Early in the presidency I wondered:
Sheriff Black Bart or Putney Swope? I should have known: Putney Swope it is.

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By monthofsundays, March 25, 2011 at 9:41 am Link to this comment

Can I suggest the soundtrack “Where do hopeless logos go ...” (sung to the tune of “where have all the flowers gone” ...)

You will always be my favourite hippie, Mr Fish.

- fin -

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By NYCartist, March 25, 2011 at 8:43 am Link to this comment

Good, a “makes you think” cartoon.

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By Maani, March 25, 2011 at 12:47 am Link to this comment


One can always make a list of things one wishes a president would do.  And I agree with you on most if not all of the things you bring up.

But that is just one list.  And there is a list to counter that.  But providing it would be futile, because you are likely to either disagree with my definition of his “successes,” or find reasons to tie them to “negative” things.  For example, the fact that he got far more in return for extending the Bush tax cuts than anyone believed he could.  Yes, I too was opposed to their extension.  But I do not see it as necessarily a “capitulation” to the GOP.  Indeed, given that the GOP had long been the “party of no,” the fact that he was able to get so much in the compromise was shocking.

You are also probably unaware that, in his first three months in office, Obama overturned or rescinded almost a dozen of Bush’s signing statements with rspect to such areas as civil rights, environment, science, law and others.  True, he still needs to get to habeus corpus (and posse comitatus).  But as I said, you simply make one list without considering the other.

As well, although it remains an issue of debate, I believe that time will show that his ability to get ANY health care bill passed was nothing short of historic.  Yes, most of the country wants single-payer universal health care, and Obama could have used the enormous support and mandate immediately after the 2008 election to try harder to push that through.  But he was dealing with the financial crisis (that, we should remember, Bush created), so he probably believed it would be unrealistic.  But even the diluted bill we have has already begun helping millions of people.

I could go on, but I am already waiting for your indignant response to this post.

I was not originally an Obama supporter; indeed, here at TD I was famously castigated, denigrated and insulted for supporting Hillary by all those who drank the Kool-Aid, wore the rose-colored spectacles, and were entranced by the perfumed rhetoric of Obama.  And I too am very disappointed with him for many reasons.

But I don’t see this as black and white: Obama has had both successes and failures (just like any other president), and there are reasons to be disappointed with some of the things he has done, and not done (just like any other president).  To suggest that his entire presidency has been a failure, or that he is somehow out to lunch or dithering, is what I expect from Faux Snooze, not from those who are politically informed.  Sadly, it seems that Mr. Fish has been drinking the Tea.


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By samosamo, March 25, 2011 at 12:26 am Link to this comment


o has been a member even long before he forged his way into
the white house. His actions since becoming resident in the
white house is incontrovertible proof as such.

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By Maani, March 24, 2011 at 10:49 pm Link to this comment

Mr. Fish:

You have a truly overdeveloped - and in my opinion politically misplaced - sense of the hyperbolic and melodramatic.


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By jzk, March 24, 2011 at 10:02 pm Link to this comment

Right On!

I’ve been waiting and waiting and waiting for Obama to “do” something.  I keep
going to the “what the f.. has obama done lately” site.  There’s a long list there,
which to me look like a list of excuses.  No, it is NOT enough.

Where is Habeas Corpus?
Why is Bradley Manning being tortured?
Why hasn’t anyone from Wall Street gone to Jail?
Why are home prices starting a free fall?
Where are the jobs?
Even Obama has suggested he’s willing to steal my Social Security.
Where are his “comfortable shoes?”
I could go on, but Maani wouldn’t know what I was talking about.

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By Maani, March 24, 2011 at 9:30 pm Link to this comment

I don’t get this.  Is Fish suggesting that the Obama “brand” is obsolete or defunct?  If so, he is wrong - not just internationally (Obama is better loved overseas than here), but even domestically, since he is still polling better than any GOP/TPer re 2012.  In fact, Palin’s numbers are tanking, Romney has been AWOL for awhile (and in politics, out of sight is out of mind), Pawlenty and Barbour are fighting an uphill battle, and there is no one else even close to beating Obama (yet).

This cartoon is ultimately a wishful Fish-full.


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