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By oddsox, December 8, 2011 at 10:47 am Link to this comment

John Poole, you write:
“The drug cartels based in Mexico probably make more money from harder drugs but I’m only speculating.”

If you believe the AZ Attorney General, 67%-75% of the cartel drug trade is in marijuana.
If you believe the Rand reports, it’s 20% - 30%.
They don’t know for sure, either.

You’re correct when you write:
“innocent people are dying because ruthless smugglers see a market in the peaceful recreational users living in the USA.”

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By John Poole, December 7, 2011 at 6:08 pm Link to this comment
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Rick-  Until pot is legalized the trade will attract some pretty violent characters
even though most recreational users are non violent types. The drug cartels based
in Mexico probably make more money from harder drugs but I’m only
speculating. Perhaps peaceful users need to hire a strong lobby and get the USA’s
drug laws changed. In the mean time it is a mess but you do understand that
innocent people are dying because ruthless smugglers see a market in the
peaceful recreational users living in the USA.

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By rick, December 7, 2011 at 4:50 pm Link to this comment
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a single 12 oz can of beer equals the weight in pot one person smokes in a year. In other words one person can eat three quarter pounders from Mcdonalds and that same weight in pot is not only less toxic, but would make a person more healthly then eating those burgers.
U.S> Patent 663-0507 is not being enforced instead we get federally funded discrimination based on which state you live in, enforced by legalized treason supported by legalized terrorism against non violent tax paying pot smoking voters who number in the tens of millions of Americans.
When such a large number of citizens aren’t valued and are labeled criminals by a government which allows itself to grow pot, you get the divided country proving Democracy isn’t working and a war against truth and reason by trying to control a plant with thousands of uses, like freeing our country from fossil fuel use, healing the sick, feeding the poor, cleaing the air,etc…

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By John Poole, December 1, 2011 at 8:20 pm Link to this comment
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More succinct:  MEXICO- TAKE NOTE

The USA has discerned that the root of its vexing problem in Afghanistan (messy
occupation) is across the border with Pakistan.
  The root of your drug cartel violence is across your border with the USA where
the cartel’s customers hide and live. Happy droning!

My point is that the USA will never change its invasion/occupation template until
someone else emulates our perverse ways out of admiration. Let’s see how we
handle collateral damage (oops, sorry about that adjoining house in Toledo-we’re
new at this drone thing- but we did get the users!)

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By oddsox, December 1, 2011 at 4:23 pm Link to this comment

John Poole, you’re being facetious, of course.
But your “No users- no drug cartels!” comment rings true. 
The failure of our Drug War, and Mexico’s, is in the overall strategy of attacking the supply chain.
To win, attack the demand.

Look at another “victimless” crime, prostitution.
When civic leaders want to put on a show, they arrest the hookers and you see film at 11.

When they really want it gone, they start arresting the Johns.

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By John Poole, November 30, 2011 at 1:11 pm Link to this comment
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Mexico should copy the USA and use cross border drone warfare. The USA says
Pakistan is the real problem for harboring insurgents who sneak into Afghanistan
and wreck havoc.  Mexico knows the root of their vexing and tragic problem is not
the drug cartels -it’s the “user”  So when their drone minders get info that a group
in Toledo is doing drugs they launch a drone and take ‘em out (sorry about that
adjoining house). No users- no drug cartels! Doesn’t Mexico have a right to do
whatever is necessary to attack the root of their problem for the safety of their law
abiding citizens?  Oh, that bit about “sovereignty” is so League of Nations. We
seem to ignore it daily.

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