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Red Meat Study

Posted on Mar 14, 2012

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By Bennett, March 21, 2012 at 10:51 am Link to this comment
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To heterochromatic:

First, heart disease is highly associated with high cholesterol and plague build up, which comes from fatty
meat, among other animal sources.

But more to the point, did you not get the parody??? 
This is about the Republican laws forcing women to wait
48 hours to have an abortion, and being forced to
listen to doctors read scripts about the downside of
having an abortion.

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By stand to reason, March 18, 2012 at 11:13 pm Link to this comment
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Not unexpected. Even the list of what humans can and do eat
but the one thing left out is insulin which is the major
hormone directing fat storage and its many many deleterious
effects on humans whom consume far more plant life than
they should. And what is called the leaky gut when more
grains are ingested which it would be assumed that if humans
were meant to eat grass and grains, we also would have 3
stomaches to hold what we ate, regurgitate it, chew on it some
more until it passed into the body, but we don’t. But yeah,
gathering, referring to fruits and seasonal treats were
consumed but only during when in season. The idea is to keep
insulin low and not too high as that is where problems are

The opposite is glucagon:

Interesting hormones.

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By heterochromatic, March 17, 2012 at 6:39 pm Link to this comment

Maani——beef and porky contain more solid fat than chicken or fish…..and ANY
fat or oil that’s solid at room temperature is best not taken in quantity, likely to
clog the circulatory system…..

you’re right about the teeth, but humans weren’t designed to last, on average, 80
years…... without dentistry, your teeth are unlikely to last that long, so it’s not odd
that other systems require a bit of care.

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By Maani, March 17, 2012 at 6:20 pm Link to this comment

I am highly suspect of this study, for three reasons.

1. Our teeth were created for us to be omnivores - i.e., to eat all things, including meat.  We have both recessive fangs for tearing and “heavy” molars for chewing.  And while it is true that this COULD be ONLY for chicken and pork, that is dubious.

2.  Our stomachs naturally create the enzyme that breaks down red meat (as well as other meats).  If we were not meant to eat red meat, our DNA would not create the enzyme for breaking it down.

3.  Humankind has eaten red meat since the dawn of man.  Yet human lifespans have INCREASED through the centuries and millennia.  And while it is true that there are other factors involved here (better sanitation, food protection, medical care, etc.) - and while OVERingestion of red meat has been seen, for the past couple of decades, as contributory to some health problems - ingestion of red meat per se has NEVER been implicated (despite hundreds of studies) in SHORTENING lifespans to the degree suggested.

As someone on the other thread pointed out, over-ingenstion of ANYTHING - including soybeans, tofu and lentils (to name just three “healthy” products) - can adversely affect one’s health.  And haven’t we been through this with so many other things?  Butter, sugar, salt, etc., etc. - all were “bad” until they were “okay” in small quantities.

I have an alternative suggestion here.  Is it possible that all of this hype is a way to get the 99% to eat chicken and pork while the 1% keep all the (perfectly healthy) red meat for themselves?

Far-fetched?  Maybe.  But…I’m just saying…

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By stand to reason, March 16, 2012 at 9:43 pm Link to this comment
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Amazing. Hominids to homo sapien’s 5 million years or so of
evolution(there’s that dirty word, texas, supposed cattle
state)has been on a basic protein and fat diet with occasional
gathering of seasonal odds and ends. And until the last few
centuries no refined carbs but it is like people still think on
modern day grocery shopping and what the madison ave wackos
say is the truth in nutrition. Well you can eat like that all you
want, it may keep the price of red meat cheap enough for me to
enjoy more along with the fat, quite a delicacy those primitive
people thought.

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By EmileZ, March 16, 2012 at 8:53 am Link to this comment

I am more interesrted in the ethical, rather than the health considerations.

That grim reaper might slit the beef’s throat before the eyes of the bored couple, who obviously has nothing better to do.

Just a thought.

I’m sure we would all get used to it over time.

It could be an adults only thing.

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By heterochromatic, March 15, 2012 at 12:41 pm Link to this comment

Bennett—maybe you should actually print out a list of the causes of heart
disease….you might find that beef eating ain’t one of the main ones.

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By Bennett, March 14, 2012 at 1:34 pm Link to this comment
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I offered this as a cartoon idea to Tom Tomorrow, but
he didn’t seem interested:

I’m concerned about people’s heart health so I’m
proposing a new bill–maybe legislatures around the
country can take this up for consideration.

Heart disease is a killer. And one of the main
contributing factors to heart disease is red meat
consumption. Therefore, I propose a law that enforces
a waiting period any time a person orders a steak at
a restaurant (could apply to grocery stores, too, I
guess). I’m not saying you can’t have steak. That’s
your right. But I want you to fully appreciate the
implications of the decision you are making when you
order a steak. To accomplish that goal, my bill
requires a four-hour waiting period before your steak
is delivered. During that time, restaurants will be
required to show you pictures of clogged arteries and
go over with you the causes and complications of
arteriosclerosis. You then have four hours to think
over your order. If you still want your steak after
that, enjoy.

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By heterochromatic, March 14, 2012 at 9:36 am Link to this comment

moonie does.

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