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By ThomasG, May 10, 2010 at 12:39 pm Link to this comment

NYCartist, May 4 at 2:20 pm,

I do not doubt that there were 6 Million Jews killed by the Hitler Regime along with many others while Hitler was preparing to have the perfect country with a race of perfect people by killing all those that were imperfect.  The Holocaust is a matter of record.  As much as possible, all the dead have been recorded by those that escaped death during the Hitler Regime.  Is this what you are talking about, where the Pope doesn’t think the Germans killed 6 Million Jews? I disagree with the Pope.  I do not think the Pope is a Christian, as the disciples of Jesus who originated Christianity were, which is what the Christian is suppose to be. There are many things the Catholic Church does that goes clearly against the Word of God as is recorded in the King James Version of the New Testament, and the Old Testament.

The Germans didn’t hate the Jews, they were propagandized to hate by the Hitler Regime.  You apparently do not understand the power of propaganda against a race of people or a culture.

Right now the Conservative Right-Wing is propagandizing hate against liberals, progressives, community, unions, socialists, socialism for the many, the populace and race.

I do not see how you can say “just fascism”, as if fascism isn’t so bad.  Fascism is the use of religion for authoritarian rule by corporations, which is as bad as it gets for the populace.

Definitely Hitler had no use for the Mexicans, the Native Americans or anyone not of the Aryan Race, and it appears that this same regime is set up in the United States and is the Tea Party led by News Corp/Rupert Murdoch’s Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh and FOX News.

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By NYCartist, May 4, 2010 at 9:20 am Link to this comment

MarthaA, Please don’t leave out the German “Jew hate” of the time. It’s not just corporate fascism.  Google James Carroll’s webpage and look at “Constantine’s Sword”, his history of the Church and Jews.  (He’s a former seminarian.  Is a great writer.  Did a fab memorial article for Howard Zinn in the Boston Globe.)
There is hatred of/blaming the immigrants/foreigners in AZ and other states.

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By MarthaA, May 3, 2010 at 12:29 pm Link to this comment

NYCartist, May 3 at 10:06 am,

Right.  That is what fascism is; corporations running the government with a religious face.  Hitler’s Right-Wing EXTREMIST administration was good at it and so is the Right-Wing Republican EXTREMISTS who use the FOX News Network that’s owned and paid for by Rupert Murdoch for military propagandizing against the best interest of the populace 24/8.

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By NYCartist, May 3, 2010 at 5:06 am Link to this comment

MarthaA, Hi. (I’m a woman.) I think you are right but that was only part of the story.  The propaganda had a receptive audience.  My favorite book on the history of the Church in relation to Jews is James Carroll’s “Constantine’s Sword”.  It’s a great book.  He goes thru history ending with Auschwitz and the bruhaha over a convent posting a crucifix within view of the concentration camp in a recent decade.  The video, same name “Constantine’s Sword” is slightly different than the book: it includes the US military and the Christianity movement in the Armed Forces.

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By MarthaA, May 2, 2010 at 11:39 am Link to this comment

NYCartist, May 2 at 1:46 pm

True.  The whole society at that time was being propagandized by Hitler through strong military type propagandists like <a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels”>Joseph Goebbels against liberals, unions, community, socialist, socialism, populace and progressives, similar to what is happening in the United States today in media, especially on the Right-Wing FOX News Network with the Conservative Right-Wing Glenn Beck’s, Rush Limbaugh’s, Bill O’Reilly’s, all Conservative Right-Wing Republicans and all forms of News Corp. media owned by Australian, Rupert Murdoch, who immigrated to the United states and began propagandizing the populace, and needs to be banished to China, where he owns a home.  Australia kicked him out when he applied for citizenship in the United States, so he can’t go back there, but should be banished from the United States.

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By MarthaA, May 2, 2010 at 10:57 am Link to this comment

dihey, May 2 at 2:58 pm,

The law will stand as evidence, if it isn’t knocked down.  Hitler’s plan was deceitful, just like the AZ plan.  You are nuttier than a fruitcake if you think that the Hitler administration didn’t enact laws to control the populace.

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By NYCartist, May 2, 2010 at 10:38 am Link to this comment

dihey: Some of your points re the law in Germany are incorrect in your last comment.  See William L. Shirer’s classic “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”.

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By Barry, May 2, 2010 at 10:12 am Link to this comment
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You all are a bunch of uninformed IDIOTS.  Go to
Arizona and see the battleground that it really is… 
kidnappings, drugs, gangs, drop houses, ALL from
ILLEGALS.  I think everyone who is calling AZ a Nazi
state should go down there and get caught in the
crossfire of all the violence… I will not weep for
you.  But I would say I TOLD YOU SO!

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By dihey, May 2, 2010 at 9:58 am Link to this comment

Martha A says:  “What Arizona is doing is exactly what Hitler did to profile the Jews and others that he didn’t want in his society”.
Wrong. Hitler’s great crime was that he commanded/demanded in 1933 after he had become chancellor down the chains of his Party and its SA goons the harassment, beating, and plunder of Jews and, later, their extermination. For these goals he did not need any new laws because he considered himself the ultimate/only judge of Germany anyway.
If you have firm evidence that the Governor of Arizona has given the same instructions to her party to harass, beat, plunder and exterminate “illegal immigrants” to accuse her of Hitlerism you must publish that evidence. If you cannot show such evidence you are in my view just fantasizing for reasons I cannot fathom.
My opinion does not imply that I support this law. I do not.

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By NYCartist, May 2, 2010 at 8:46 am Link to this comment

Nice. To MarthaA., don’t just make it “Hitler” - the whole society supported eliminating first the disabled, then Jews, gypsies, etc.

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By gary, May 2, 2010 at 6:17 am Link to this comment
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Its about time someone took a stand against these illegal alien drug thugs good for you ARIZONA

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By Raul Jon Roybal, May 2, 2010 at 5:33 am Link to this comment
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I can hardly wait to see what happens this July when all Puerto Rican Birth Certificates are invalid. Can you imagine a Puerto-Rican born U.S. Citizen traveling in Arizona being told they must produce proof of citizenship and then being unable to? What will the authorities do then? And please don’t tell me that a Puerto Rican is distinguiable from an illegal alien. Not to a Redneck, they aren’t.

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By Q Libet, May 2, 2010 at 12:22 am Link to this comment
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This “cartoon” immorally and underhandedly hijacks and trivializes the Holocaust. It demonstrates historical ignorance and lazy thought for disguting propaganda purposes.
Illegal immigrants should be immediatley expelled from US soil by changing the law like Arizona has done. Mexicans are slowly but illegally taking over the land they lost in 1848 by LOSING a war.
Democrats are on the right track to stop this. The bleeding hearts are catering to the bloodthirsty Aztec drug cartels.

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By MarthaA, May 1, 2010 at 5:53 pm Link to this comment

AZ is putting on an authoritarian show, but all it is is an authoritarian, oppressive, tyrannical show.

AZ will continue the exploitation of the undocumented because the United States is a capitalist country and it is good for commerce.  A capitalist government will never go against commerce. 

AZ’s authoritarian NAZI oppressive tyrannical theater is to fool the populace into thinking the government of AZ is doing something beneficial for society, but businesses will continue exploiting the undocumented, because the labor is cheap.

What should happen is a heavy tax be levied against all corporations and businesses that is extremely high, high enough to make the exploitation of undocumented workers no longer feasible; but it won’t happen, because, as I said before, the United States is a capitalist country that relies on commerce.

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By Tom E., May 1, 2010 at 12:14 am Link to this comment
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Re: This is BS
Arizona’s culture came from Mexico, you idiot. I know because I was born there.
It’s all about MONEY. Don’t victimize individuals, in force the law that makes it
illegal to hire illegals. Of course that would cost corporations bucks so it won’t be
done. Just keep being stupid Az.

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By CaptRon, April 30, 2010 at 7:43 pm Link to this comment

I agree and let’s take history all the way back to those original illegal aliens who said they were just exploring and colonizing. Big lesson learned-never take beads in trade for anything. The Native Americans believe no one can own what God created. Sounds right to me, or don’t really believe in God.

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By OldManCA, April 30, 2010 at 2:12 pm Link to this comment

I’m a baby boomer. I grew up watching WW II movies. A scene with a German
soldier, or SS officer, approaching a terrified family (or the hero or heroine),
and demanding their “papers” was a scene repeated many times.

I grew up appreciating the freedom I have in going about my business without
some armed goon demanding my “papers” and determining whether I could
continue to go on my way. 

This Arizona law is repugnant to the very idea of freedom.

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary
Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

Avoid Arizona.

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By amunaor, April 30, 2010 at 11:28 am Link to this comment

Which side of the mouth are these blue-eyed, blond-haired, xenophobic occupiers speaking from; the side used to steal the land from the indigenous Mexicans or the indigenous Indians?

What a shallow pond these folks maintain!

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By MarthaA, April 30, 2010 at 10:10 am Link to this comment

This is correct.  What Arizona is doing is exactly what Hitler did to profile the Jews and others that he didn’t want in his society.

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By dihey, April 30, 2010 at 6:14 am Link to this comment

When you study the history of our country you will infallibly discover how idiotic this cartoon is. The true belly-inscription should be “slavery”. Or should it be “slazery” to make sure that AZ is in it?

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By This is BS..., April 30, 2010 at 5:14 am Link to this comment
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Cut the crap…

There is NOTHING wrong with the ‘citizens’ of Arizona to try and save what is left of their culture.

The invasion of illegal foreign nationals from Mexico has just about decimated the economy and infrastructure of Arizona and the Southwest.

This is a burden the ‘citizens’ of AZ have a right to remove. These people are Freedom loving AMERICANS and the true Nazi’s are the Federal Government and the Media, Like TruthDig.

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By Beltwaylaid, April 29, 2010 at 7:03 pm Link to this comment
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Love it.  Great cartoon.  AZ’s not going to get away
with this…. not even close.

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