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By Napolean DoneHisPart, January 21, 2011 at 12:00 am Link to this comment

MLK’s “Beyond Vietnam; time to break the silence” speech is so powerful…. an amazing archive of historical precedence.

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By Peter Knopfler, January 20, 2011 at 8:21 pm Link to this comment

Great cartoon Obama saving the rich, selling Federal
reserve to Communist China drone killings daily that is
the Obama dream not even to quit smoking. Great cartoon
compare the nobel pize speeches by the King and Obama.

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By Alan MacDonald, January 19, 2011 at 3:58 pm Link to this comment

MLK’s Riverside “Beyond Vietnam; time to break the silence” speech was very good, and took aim at Empire—- just year before Empire took aim at him.

I still find it ironic that King quoted JFK’s 6/63 Amer University commencement address in his “Breaking Silence” address, and that the specific quote was “those blocking peaceful revolution .... cause violent revolution”. 

This was not a helpful (or healthful) line for either guy to have used in retrospect.

Cheney might even say, “they were being very ‘un-helpful’”, and is one of the empire-thinking ‘leaders; who may well have thought that both should have been ‘un-hooked’.

Yes, MLK noted that America was on the “wrong side of global revolution”, as did JFK, and other ‘democracy thinkers’ trapped in the then jelling empire.

Now that Empire is solidified, though still playing a ‘Vichy’ possum game, behind the facade of R and D hedgehogs.

The issues of whether our country was operating as a democracy or an Empire seemed to bother not only JFK and MLK, but also Ike when he talked of the MIC at the end of his presidency, and Truman far beyond his presidency (and JFK’s) when he speculated that “There is something about the way the CIA has been functioning that is casting a shadow over our historic position and I feel that we need to correct it.”

But luckily for us and our proud, democratic, and always ‘exceptional’ country, our current president has no such doubts about the Empire that he serves.

Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
“Democracy over Empire” party headquarters

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By Napolean DoneHisPart, January 19, 2011 at 12:32 pm Link to this comment

Would folks cease from being chattel if they were to learn about, and with discipline, yield their money from the corporate machines?

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By David J. Cyr, January 19, 2011 at 9:53 am Link to this comment

The corporate state, its corporate media, and all (D) corporate party lackeys annual celebration memorializing Martin attempts to erase the memory of Malcolm.

Martin persuaded primary victims of this society to passively accept the state’s brutality; to sing and pray when police assault them.

Malcolm preached that victims should exercise their natural right to self-defense; to end the daily systemic violence done to them.

White liberals love Martin because pacifists perpetuated the state’s structural violence that has materially benefited those white liberals. Pacifism has protected the violent who protected the violence that provided the affluence to the affluent.

That structural violence was seldom seen in any middle-class white liberal’s backyard… but the times they’ve been a’changin’.

What was the middle-class is now the indentured-class. People indentured are people enslaved. Bankers own the indentured, like farmers own cows.

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By samosamo, January 18, 2011 at 10:57 pm Link to this comment



Every time I come truthdig and see Mr. Fish’s drawing of o
with his comical ‘that’s really about it’ face, I see the deceptive
undertones of why o agreed to ‘play for pay’ to be president.
He is bankrupt of moral integrity and a poor faker and bad
artful dodger.

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By Conden, January 18, 2011 at 7:30 pm Link to this comment

Both MLK and obama spout bankrupt religous rhetoric.  But obama is a war criminal and an unapologetic corporatist.  I don’t care about his “dreams” or his words, but only what he has done; which has been to spread murder, environmental destruction and economic inequality throughout this country and the world.

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By NYCartist, January 18, 2011 at 4:58 pm Link to this comment

I read the comments. Most are sad.  I was in my 20s in the 1960s, and an activist (small cog).  At the time, I knew MLKing Jr was greatness.  I thought of him, not that much older than we were, as the adult and we the young kids.  I am happy to have been a contemporary of Dr. King.

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By Alan MacDonald, January 18, 2011 at 12:17 pm Link to this comment

I realize that it’s a bit long for the tag line on a T-shirt, but “To not piss off rich people, and to provide cover for the Empire—- that’s all folks”.

Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine

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By monthofsundays, January 18, 2011 at 11:03 am Link to this comment

Obama, the candidate, is a better fit for MLK than Obama the Potus. Moreover, MLK’s progressive ideas were never tested by the corrosive impotence of office. Still, Fish calls it the way it feels.

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By David J. Cyr, January 18, 2011 at 10:16 am Link to this comment

Although it’s clear that King was motivated by a moral imperative, and Obama by an immoral one, they both committed the same crime.

Both King and Obama dutifully served the corporate state, by getting good people to dedicate themselves to the corporate party’s Democrat faction; the faction designed to misdirect morality into service of evil; the faction designed to murder social justice movements.

The “progressive” Democrats never were good. They were created to moderate or eliminate any and every opposition rising from the Left. That’s all they’ve ever done.

There would be no Obamanation now, if there had been no King.

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By glider, January 18, 2011 at 8:49 am Link to this comment

Well, some interesting commentary here, but I praise this Fish cartoon as being spot on.  MLK, despite having been co-opted by establishment revisionism after his assassination, was a great man driven by altruistic moral imperatives.  Obama, is nothing of the kind, and is instead driven by $$$ as his bottom line.  He is only a regretful footnote in history of the progression of the corporatocracy and is by no means a transformational figure contributing to the advancement of society.

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By truedigger3, January 18, 2011 at 5:46 am Link to this comment

Re: By David J. Cyr, January 18 at 7:29 am


I agree with most what you are saying about our current so called liberal/progressive class, however Dr. King didn’t create that class who subverted big part of his work.
Dr. King was a great man whose aim was not seperation and continuous confrontation, but full participation in a reformed just society which at peace within and with the rest of the world. He opposed war and empire building and violence within and with the rest of the world.
Malcolm X was confrontational and I am not sure his final aim was seperation or full participation in the society. Anyway, IMHO, his approach would have ended in a blood bath that would have retarded the civil rights movement for decades.

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By David J. Cyr, January 18, 2011 at 2:29 am Link to this comment

QUOTE (of an avatar, being a roll zone):

“Mr. Cyr, your interpretation of militant revolt was not the loving messaging of brotherly hope for equality that i heard from Dr. King… Malcolm X fueled resistance to the Dr. King message, and prolonged the suffering of those most affected.”

Both Martin and Malcolm were extraordinary men; both worthy of considerable admiration.

However, while liberals cherish collaborators dead or alive, they only ever love revolutionaries when they are dead… if then.

There’s no corporate state holiday to celebrate Malcolm X because he firmly opposed the rotten system that liberals protect and preserve.

There’s an MLK Day today because Dr. King and other liberal co-opted establishment accepted “Negro Leaders” collaborated with Power. It was their collaboration that allowed liberals to maintain the poverty of a permanent underclass. It was the collaboration of “House Negros” that allowed liberals to protect and preserve their rotten system.

The 60’s liberals succeeded in developing a more sustainable racism… and a more sustainable fascism.

Only a liberal could think it’s racial progress to have a half-black man commit the same POTUS crimes, in there name, that only white men could commit before.

Liberals don’t oppose any evil. They strive to perfect every evil.

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By SteveL, January 18, 2011 at 1:28 am Link to this comment

Could not have said it better!

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By reynolds, January 17, 2011 at 9:42 pm Link to this comment

however tentative or accommodating martin luther king
jr. might have been, in the opinion of so august and
knowing a body as the people who comment here, i’m
guessing he did more for his cause than any of you did,
or do for that cause. 
no caucasion can be taken seriously second guessing the
work, the struggle or the sacrifice of martin luther
king jr.

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By Tim, January 17, 2011 at 6:23 pm Link to this comment
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Thank you David C. for that Malcolm X quote. Not a lot of people care to know that MLK made concessions to the White House, like watering down the rhetoric or ultimately slowing militant tempo of the movement so things wouldn’t get “out of hand” following a march on the nation’s capital.

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By prisnersdilema, January 17, 2011 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment

Obama, is closer to O.J. Simpson than Martin Luther King…

A corporate spokesman, who fooled everyone with his boy next door persona…

The realization of liberal dreams of change on the outside….

Once they realize, what they have done, there will be outrage, not at themselves, but at their tool.

Just like O.J.,...

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By Napolean DoneHisPart, January 17, 2011 at 1:57 pm Link to this comment

Obama IS the Amerikan Dream personified… and his dream-team backers of the status quot are well pleased.

MLK had to go because he was doing the RIGHT thing, not what was pleasing to the hierarchy.

Obama is just another hired hand.

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By samosamo, January 17, 2011 at 1:49 pm Link to this comment



Always with the wrong people hyping the hypocritical while the
real forces are left hidden from the light of day.

Never have liked a national holiday named in ‘honour’ of a

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By rollzone, January 17, 2011 at 1:48 pm Link to this comment

hello. i had a dream to abolish the power of fear,
and then the alternative reality arose and frightened
me to near death; so i ate a Kosher hot dog and went
back to sleep.
Mr. Cyr, your interpretation of militant revolt was
not the loving messaging of brotherly hope for
equality that i heard from Dr. King. he specifically
proclaimed his message was to rise above the
violence, and peacefully enact positive changes to
realize both realistic and perceived injustices to
racial inequalities. Malcolm X did not bring everyone
together, and had no original message. corporate
America is, and always will be: Americans. Americans
heard the message, and Americans will always
celebrate the message; and again: Americans are
corporate America. Malcolm X was enamored by violent
brattish displays, which harmed the very communities
he falsely represented. Malcolm X loved leadership
power, but could only lead malcontents to violence.
Dr. King was embarrassed by people alike this, unable
to hear his message, and content to spin discontent
into a personal power vacuum. Malcolm X fueled
resistance to the Dr. King message, and prolonged the
suffering of those most affected.

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By c.d.embrey, January 17, 2011 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment
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Obama’s dream job is a seat on the Board of Directors of Goldman Sachs.

I’m sure that Wall Street will supports Obama in his retirement, like they
did in his election.

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By David J. Cyr, January 17, 2011 at 12:39 pm Link to this comment

Always remember, never forget:

The corporate state would not celebrate Martin Luther King, Jr’s life, if there had been no Malcolm X… because Malcolm was no fool.

Here’s part of what Malcolm X had to say about the “House Negros” like Martin, who had all been co-opted by white liberal funding and framing:

“It’s just like when you’ve got some coffee that’s too black, which means it’s too strong. What you do? You integrate it with cream; you make it weak. If you pour too much cream in, you won’t even know you ever had coffee. It used to be hot, it becomes cool. It used to be strong, it becomes weak. It used to wake you up, now it’ll put you to sleep. This is what they did with the march on Washington. They joined it. They didn’t integrate it; they infiltrated it. They joined it, became a part of it, took it over. And as they took it over, it lost its militancy. They ceased to be angry. They ceased to be hot. They ceased to be uncompromising.”

Message to the Grass Roots (text and audio)
Malcolm X, in Detroit, MI, on November 10, 1963

The “progressive” liberals haven’t had to learn any new tricks, because their old ones still work so well.

David J. Cyr
Delhi, NY

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By Jim, January 17, 2011 at 12:07 pm Link to this comment
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One could only imagine how different things would be if we had a man of MLK’s character and conviction in the White House today.

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By still trying, January 17, 2011 at 11:57 am Link to this comment

Excellent! I sent this to my lefty friends who still think the “saviour” will someday reveal his real identity, and fix everything — all that for just pushing the Obama button on election day…
That daydream relieves one of the responsibility to do anything oneself to save our butts.

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By G.Anderson, January 17, 2011 at 11:55 am Link to this comment

Well Mr Fish, you have done it again.

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By JesusWasASocialist, January 17, 2011 at 11:46 am Link to this comment

Very apropos contrast; brilliant but very sad.

Today is a good day for some reflection and some reading:

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By Paul Charles Leddy, January 17, 2011 at 8:19 am Link to this comment
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And while we’re at it: how about a cartoon of Malcolm X
talking w/ George Jr.?

You know, since they are both Muslim. wink

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By Paul Charles Leddy, January 17, 2011 at 8:18 am Link to this comment
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MLK also had the dream not to piss off Hoover. Lest his
personal affairs be aired.


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