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By blogdog, April 3, 2012 at 1:37 pm Link to this comment
Obama Libya War Powers Debate: Obama’s Lawyers Are Worse Than Bush’s,
Glenn Greenwald Says
First Posted: 06/19/11 12:58 PM ET Updated: 08/19/11 06:12 AM ET
President Barack Obama overruled top lawyers from the Justice Department and
the Pentagon and decided he has the legal authority to continue the air war in
Libya without congressional approval, the New York Times reported Friday night.
By heterochromatic, April 3, 2012 at 1:18 pm Link to this comment
Rohde is quite correct. drones did fill his Taliban captor gunmen with fear…..
this is a good thing.
By blogdog, April 3, 2012 at 1:06 pm Link to this comment
war criminals don’t count their victims
Feature — May / June 2011
Covering Obama’s Secret War
When drones strike, key questions go unasked and unanswered
By Tara McKelvey
In the spring of 2009, New York Times reporter David Rohde was being held
captive by Taliban gunmen in a house in Waziristan, a mountainous region on
the Pakistan side of the border with Afghanistan. Aerial drones soared
overhead, filling him and his kidnappers with a sense of dread, until one day,
he later wrote, “Our nightmare had come to pass.” A drone fired missiles near
their house, killing several militants on a road and terrifying people in the area.
The house withstood the attack but, Rohde wrote, “the plastic sheeting covering
the window hung in tatters.” He learned about the efficiency of the drones on
that day and also saw the wrath they incurred: “My captors expressed more
hatred for President Obama than for President Bush.”
By heterochromatic, April 3, 2012 at 12:54 pm Link to this comment
dog——the Bush admin never carried out any other invasion….
you can’t expolain Libya that way…..
By blogdog, April 3, 2012 at 12:48 pm Link to this comment
General Wesley Clark explains Libyan invasion, Syria, Somalia planned years in
By heterochromatic, April 3, 2012 at 12:39 pm Link to this comment
dog——did you read that Global research bulspit and fail to notice that there
wasn’t a stinking bit of anything that substantiate the claim in the title…....
the sole claim to a tie-in is this
“Clearly, seasoned imperial powers such as Britain, France and the US, would
not commit to the huge expenditure of a months-long air campaign to bring
somebody to power in such a strategically important, oil rich state, unless they
were already a tried and trusted asset.”
that’s all of it….... a simple stupid and silly insistance that it must be true
because the ayuthor thinks that it makes sense.
what are your degrees in, dog????????????
By blogdog, April 3, 2012 at 12:33 pm Link to this comment
Libya Invasion Planned by NATO Since 2007 with the Support of MI6
Mustafa Abdul-Jalil and Mahmoud Jibril have been paving the way for NATO’s
conquest since 2007
Global Research, September 27, 2011
A violent rebellion broke out in Benghazi, Libya on February 15th this year (1).
Six days later, Libyan Justice Minister Mustafa Abdul-Jalil resigned to set up an
alternative government. On February 27th, the Transitional National Council
was established, and on March 5th, this body had declared itself the “sole
representative of all Libya”, with Abdul-Jalil at its head. France recognised the
TNC as the legitimate Libyan government on March 10th and Britain offered
them a diplomatic office on UK soil the same day. Nine days later, the Council
set up a new Libyan Central Bank and National Oil Company (2). In barely a
month from the start of the rebellion, Abdul-Jalil had positioned himself as
head not only of the rebels, but of the new government in waiting, with control
of Libyan resources and monetary policy and the blessing of the West. On
March 17th, NATO began its mass slaughter of Libyan soldiers in order to
install his regime.
Clearly, seasoned imperial powers such as Britain, France and the US, would not
commit to the huge expenditure of a months-long air campaign to bring
somebody to power in such a strategically important, oil rich state, unless they
were already a tried and trusted asset. So who exactly is Abdul Jalil?
Abdul-Jalil gained his job in the Libyan government in January 2007, when he
was named Secretary of the General People’s Committee for Justice (the
equivalent of Justice Minister). He has been paving the way for NATO’s military
and economic conquest of Libya ever since.
By heterochromatic, April 3, 2012 at 12:23 pm Link to this comment
dog—- why did your schooling not prepare you to distinguish between
unsupported accusation and proof?
and why do you persist in attempting to affix responsibility for all the deaths in
Libya to NATO, which entered the fray long after the blood of thousands had been
By blogdog, April 3, 2012 at 11:08 am Link to this comment
advance degrees taken in the 70s and 80s are better than what’s generally on offer
today - and as noted, will become no part of any pissing match with any duped-
out troll, given to ad hominem invective - worthy of no polemic - were there any
interest in genuine engagement, entry level courses in classical rhetoric would be
advised - highly unlikely
By heterochromatic, April 3, 2012 at 10:43 am Link to this comment
dog—- AI spends the time and effort to document what they say…. and you post a
link to nothing more than OPINION from some flaky psychologist former advisor to
this is not gonna help get you into college.
By blogdog, April 3, 2012 at 9:49 am Link to this comment
as noted: war criminals never count their victims… anyway it’s just a statistic
‘NATO Game Over’: 500 held at anti-war protest at HQ
Amnesty and the NATO Cover-Up of War Crimes in Libya. (updated)
Posted on March 22, 2012 - http://tinyurl.com/7ywxljq
By Christof Lehmann – nsnbc. Yesterday, on 19 March 2012, Amnesty
International was calling on NATO to “investigate the killing of dozens of
civilians during it`s air campaign last year and to provide reparations to the
people affected”. Amnesty further stated that “adequate investigations must be
carried out and full reparation provided to the victims and their families“. NATO
rebutted Amnesty International`s call for an investigation and compensation
for the “dozens” of civilians, and in doing so, NATO has entered an elegant
propaganda dance macabre. A propaganda dance macabre, designed to
dominate and more importantly direct the public and political discourse away
from the true dimensions and proportions of the war crimes that were
committed under NATO command as well as command responsibility.
The “human rights organization” that is branding itself as “watchdog” is
obviously attempting to make even well intended humanitarian minded
members of the worlds public belief, that NATO`s Operation Unified Protector,
authorized by UNSC Resolution 1973 has resulted in 55 documented cases of
named civilians, including 16 children and 14 women that were killed in air
strikes in the capital Tripoli and the towns of Zliten, Majer, Sirte, and Brega. The
amnesty narrative must make the heart of every NATO propaganda expert jump
faster. Possibly, Amnesty is positioning itself for a Nobel Peace Price, where it
would be in perfect company with Barak Hussein Obama, Henry Kissinger and
other humanitarian avatars. After all, Amnesty International USA has Suzanne
Nossel at the helm. A Hilary Clinton aide for International Organizations Affairs.
Reality Amnesty-Style is depended on the all important methodology. With the
correct methodology it is possible to reduce a genocide to 55 documented
cases – and viola an amazed misinformed public donates to Amnesty`s
peacers, pats them on their back asking them to “keep up the good work“.
By dahoit, April 3, 2012 at 9:13 am Link to this comment
Who drew it,the elders of Zion in a group effort?
It’s getting thicker and thicker.
By heterochromatic, April 3, 2012 at 6:43 am Link to this comment
dog——NATO can be ACCUSED of eating human flesh and crapping in church,
..having evidence of some sort remains dispositive among the people who are
By blogdog, April 2, 2012 at 11:42 pm Link to this comment
‘Free Syrian Army foot-soldiers of Western military alliance’
By blogdog, April 2, 2012 at 10:46 pm Link to this comment
my post-grad degrees stand up well enough - they’ll be no part of any pissing
contest as witnessed herein of late
- experience traveling on all continents informs that dupes and trolls who
surface to spew pathetic ad-hominem invective are de facto personas non
- there is no polemic with dupes - war criminals never count their victims… but
the world is watching:
Silence of UN, NATO’s killing of civilians & future of nations
Wed, 2012-03-28 00:26
By Shenali Waduge
Libya extends over 1759540 square kilometres (679362 sq mi) and is home
to 6.4million people. On 17 March 2011, the UN Security Council adopted
Resolution 1973 on Libya proposed by France, Lebanon & UK. Regime change in
Iraq took 8 years and trillion dollars, the Liberating Libya took just 7 months
but NATO is accused of thousands of civilian deaths which they refuse to
admit or compensate.
Are we looking at a future of military interventions by powerful nations
(international gangsters) that falsely create the ground situations in these
targeted countries and then officially obtain the mandate to militarily intervene?
What makes the death of Gaddafi and the fall of a sovereign nation alarming is
that none of these uprisings were natural events but have been “planted” to
facilitate and promote the need for a military intervention. Thus, the UN clauses
are worded in such a way to permit its varied interpretations and by the time
the world realizes the truth the damage has already been done and the leaders
all silenced forever.
Gaddafi may have been a dictator but he was a dictator far different from
others having brought Libya to a status where it functioned without a single
loan from the IMF or World Bank and its central bank was 100% owned by the
Libyan Government. In short Libya was a debt free nation under Gaddafi. In
1951 Libya was the poorest country in the world. Before US/NATO invaded
Libya it had the highest standard of living in Africa and a literacy rate of 83%. It
was also called the Switzerland of the African continent. One of the first things
the “rebels” have done is to change Libyan central bank to a western type one.
We can now assume who the real instigators of these military interventions are.
Ironically, global leaders are merely tools themselves!
any issue with that? - take it up with Mr. Shenali Waduge, clearly a journalist far
more savvy than typical NYT useful fools
By heterochromatic, April 2, 2012 at 9:39 pm Link to this comment
dog——because there’s evidence for around 100 ....does not imply that it’s
you’re not entitled to your own planet and populations of mythical dead.
if you get to college somedy, you’re gonna find that some of the more uncool
teachers are gonna want stuff like evidence ...and are not gonna be satisfied with
the ravings of loons such as Tarpley and Alex Jones and whomever is reading the
scripts from the Lubyanka on RT.
By blogdog, April 2, 2012 at 9:21 pm Link to this comment
visa versa: 50k is credible 100 is not - NYT Empire shills are not to be believed -
dupes are not to be engaged - persona-non-grata trolls are to be reviled
By heterochromatic, April 2, 2012 at 9:10 pm Link to this comment
dog—- that’s much better. about 100 civilians killed by the bombing is a credible
rather than that quite incredible 50k.
By blogdog, April 2, 2012 at 8:42 pm Link to this comment
regurgitating lies of war criminals is all that is to be expected of dupes
“We have carried out this operation very carefully, without confirmed civilian
casualties,” the secretary general of NATO, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, said in
but even when quoting war criminals, the Lies of The Times was forced by facts
on the ground to write this: http://tinyurl.com/7etf8q5
But an on-the-ground examination by The New York Times of airstrike
sites across Libya — including interviews with survivors, doctors and witnesses,
and the collection of munitions remnants, medical reports, death certificates
and photographs — found credible accounts of dozens of civilians killed by
NATO in many distinct attacks. The victims, including at least 29 women or
children, often had been asleep in homes when the ordnance hit.
In all, at least 40 civilians, and perhaps more than 70, were killed by NATO at
these sites, available evidence suggests. While that total is not high compared
with other conflicts in which Western powers have relied heavily on air power,
and less than the exaggerated accounts circulated by the Qaddafi government,
it is also not a complete accounting. Survivors and doctors working for the
anti-Qaddafi interim authorities point to dozens more civilians wounded in
these and other strikes, and they referred reporters to other sites where civilian
casualties were suspected.
if NYT empire shills are forced to acknowledge that much, it’s understood
they’re off by a factor of at least 1000
By heterochromatic, April 2, 2012 at 8:25 pm Link to this comment
dog——you can’t call it terror bombing because you say that 50k civilians
perished from things OTHER THAN the bombing.
that simply doesn’t work on any level.
By blogdog, April 2, 2012 at 8:01 pm Link to this comment
civilians were massively bombed in Libya - 50k+ civilians perished in Libya due
directly to the NATO-sponsored neocolonial, coup d’etat, insurrection -
NATO’s 7-month body count outstrips Gaddafies’ 40-year regime by by over
10 to one - NATO are the world’s premiere war criminals, hands down!
HCON 107 IH
H. CON. RES. 107
Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a
President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress
constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II,
section 4 of the Constitution.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
March 7, 2012
Mr. JONES submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to
the Committee on the Judiciary
Whereas the cornerstone of the Republic is honoring Congress’s exclusive
power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution:
Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the
sense of Congress that, except in response to an actual or imminent attack
against the territory of the United States, the use of offensive military force by a
President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress violates
Congress’s exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11
of the Constitution and therefore constitutes an impeachable high crime and
misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.
there is no polemic with dupes - just the facts ma’m - there is no recognition
for personas-non-gratas trolls… c’est finis!
By heterochromatic, April 2, 2012 at 7:13 pm Link to this comment
dog—- terror bombardment is of civilians, and the
Libya bombardment of Qaddaffy’s thugs doesn’t qualify
as bombarding civilians.
By Talkmaster1, April 2, 2012 at 3:02 pm Link to this comment
“Assad is indeed a bloody bastard, but with Syria’s version of Arab Spring being
financed behind the scenes by the Saudis and the West, and is part of the new
cold war between the West and Russia, why do progressive websites participate
in his demonization while ignoring the underlying context?”
Assad`s father was even bloodier. He brought the so called “calamity of graves”
to the intellectually vibrant syrian society and imported “the great Leader”
worship” after a Visit from North Korea . I have a question to you. Why is
iranian, iraqian, chinese and russian help not Intervention. Russian and iranian
Warships already brought help to Assad. Why iran insisted on implementing
“democracy” in Iraq and bahrain and resist it in syria?. What`s the problem with
“leftist” people from this website. What`s the difference between a puppet
which is backed by Iran or a puppet that is backed by the US. Russia has it`s
puppets in Turkmenistan and so on and it`s Abu ghraib`s too, like in
Chechnya. China has it`s puppets like in north Korea and countries like vietnam
that refuse to become chinese puppets. What`s the behavior of chinese
“investors” in Africa. What`s the difference with western “Investors”. Chinese
bribe african politicians like westerners do. And the so called Soviet Union was
nothing more than a russian empire. the same with the chinese. Socialist
Internationalism my Ass. The soviet used foreign communism supporter only as
a geo political asset. They too toppled regime and installed puppet all over the
caucasus. they have enforced russian language all over it`s “hemisphere”. And
now Iran use shias as it`s agents. Simple as that.
By blogdog, April 2, 2012 at 2:50 pm Link to this comment
Gaddafie’s life-time body count measures minimally next to the 50k+ perished
by NATO war criminals: Obomber, Cameruin, Sharkozy, Rusemachen and their
dutiful ranks of henchmen
at one point in the campaign, Canadian airmen refused to complete missions,
refused to bomb civilians - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9aFoKteevI - in
truth NATO’s Libyan bombing campaign targeted civilians from the outset -
terror bombing - more tonnage than the Luftwaffa dropped on Britain
make no mistake: exactly the same wholesale terror bombardment is planned
for Syria, and any other regime that refuses to submit to IMF/World Bank
hegemony - this is now the spearhead of THE GLOBAL WAR OF TERROR -
directed by and for THE GLOBAL FINANCE OLIGARCHY
stooges like Kap, Cagle Cartoons, Spain are most likely unwitting useful fools
By jr., April 2, 2012 at 2:23 pm Link to this comment
Personally, i’m feeling Iraq, Lybia, and Afghanistan should have been left on their own to the peoples of those countries, and, NOT to the elitest snobs that have invaded.
And, had i known while i was an enlisted man that my illustrious government was misappropriating my tax monies(as far as i’m concerned), buying terrorist groups back in the 1980’s, i would have resigned my enlistment then. No doubt, because a lot of others might have as well, is why it was kept secret for so long.
Just another two cents, for what it’s worth.
By werdy, April 2, 2012 at 11:21 am Link to this comment
Imbecilic cartoons like this push me away from left news sources. They don’t deal with truth—-simple, self-evident truths: Obviously, terrorists have invaded Syria and they cannot be allowed power. Obviously, they are funded by GCC tyrants that behead women if they wear pants, and by Western elites that orchestrate mass murder and theft all over the world.
I’m calling the illustrator of this cartoon out. I’m saying he or she supports the caging of black people by berserkers in Libya, the theft of resources all over Africa and the Middle East by corpo-fascist Globalists, the sky rocketing cancer rates in Iraq due to the use of weapons that contained depleted uranium. I’m also pointing the finger at “truthdig” for this. You are cheering for mass murderers and 90% of Syrians voted they don’t want to be murdered by your masters. Leave them alone.
Kap, cartoon maker, you are an ignorant savage and every woman that gets her head cut off in Saudi Arabia because she dropped her veil is on your hands. Her decapitated head is on your hands. You don’t belong in the conversation, you filthy pig. 90% of Syrians don’t want you in the conversation.
By heterochromatic, April 1, 2012 at 3:41 pm Link to this comment
vec——- I couldn’t couldn’t care less and nothing
doesn’t not say so
By heterochromatic, April 1, 2012 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment
truffledigger, I liked that Qaddafi, the dictator of
the last 40 years and a murdering madman , was removed
I wish that he had been tried and imprisoned for the
rest of his fucked-up life rather than dealt the sort
of justice that he himself dealt in.
By Kay, April 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm Link to this comment
... it seems this obedient cartoonist straightly follows the mainstream-news and dis not get the point what’s really happening out there. Does he know about the snipers a.k.a. the demonstrants a.k.a. the payed libyan terrorists who perfidious shot many civilians in homs and alleged the kilings were made by Assads army? About all the weapons for the so called “peacefully demonstrants”?
Watch this: http://youtu.be/vp3yb5AWD7
By sofianitz, April 1, 2012 at 1:42 pm Link to this comment
This cartoon is false. The subject matter is false.
The things represented did not occur,
You make money providing these lies, don’t you?
Lot easier than telling the truth.
By heterochromatic, April 1, 2012 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment
yup——there’s no government headed by ruthless, worthless thugs and killers
....unless we can blame it on old Uncle Sugar….
yup…we must pretend that no other crimes exist.
yup, we’re a big bunch of infantile asswipes.
By blogdog, April 1, 2012 at 12:14 pm Link to this comment
more agitprop - pressing for full-on war - full-blown bombardment of another sovereign
nation - and the only one pointing a red-stained-baiting finger here at voices questioning this
blatant agitprop is exactly the one who typically shills, indeed, shills relentlessly for hegemony
of the global finance oligarchy, in the guise of humanitarian justice
the hegemons very first action in Syria will copy what they did in Libya (as soon as they had
control of Benghazi, which in fact is barely controlled on the street, even today)...
that action: set up a Rothchild-controlled central bank - transparency too embarrassing to
ergo, said operative among us: encore et toujours persona non grata
By Fearless, April 1, 2012 at 11:16 am Link to this comment
Omg, omg!!!! Our government needs to enter into more
contracts with the defense contractors immediately!!!!
By jr., April 1, 2012 at 10:22 am Link to this comment
A rather obnoxious point of view, kap, if i do say so myself. It never ceases to amaze me how the west is, and always has been, so critical of others, but when it comes to it’s own blood bath’s it’s like, how dare you question our actions. This post may be, too, critical of others, however, i’m not out acting as though i were marshal of the universe, as america and friends, have elected themselves as. And this one individual has but one thing to say to those that have so elected themselves: YUK! YUK! And double YUK!
By giacomofrugoli, April 1, 2012 at 10:20 am Link to this comment
Assad is indeed a bloody bastard, but with Syria’s version of Arab Spring being financed behind the scenes by the Saudis and the West, and is part of the new cold war between the West and Russia, why do progressive websites participate in his demonization while ignoring the underlying context?
By heterochromatic, April 1, 2012 at 8:40 am Link to this comment
poor kids here only like cartoons with the usual villiian and will excuse mass
slaughter of the innocent by most anybody other than Uncle Sam…..
good little Stalinists they are.
By tolstoy, April 1, 2012 at 8:10 am Link to this comment
As now with toxic stream in every endeavor this cartoon encourages distortion, over-simplification, and illusion. Truthdig ought to disallow all this ad hominem garbage from its site.
By Talkmaster1, April 1, 2012 at 6:34 am Link to this comment
Are you arab. Well i`m an arab and Assad like his father before is a Butcher. Please
don`t use the anti-imperialis argumentation. Since this guy used to torture Terror
suspect for the CIA in the “War on Terror”.
But you are right. The quality of this Cartoon is bad. The Syrians deserve better.
Go and search for Ali Farzat. He is a syrian Cartoonist and lived until the regime`s
thugs broke his Hand in Syria.
By vector56, April 1, 2012 at 6:12 am Link to this comment
What CIA Cartoonist created this bit of obvious propaganda?
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