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Posted on May 16, 2012

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By Non-Compassionate Liberal, May 20, 2012 at 3:43 am Link to this comment

Good one, Mr. Fish.

@JDmysticDJ:  Signing statements aren’t law. 
But if you think Obama will (maybe) restrain himself, just wait ‘til a President Bachmann gets this Obama-approved power.  You’ll be thrown into Jail if you say something bad about Jesus or Exxon.

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By JDmysticDJ, May 19, 2012 at 7:25 am Link to this comment

Mr. Fish’s cartoon is chalk full of distortions and extreme exaggerations.

The objectionable provisions of the MDAA absolutely do not allow for detaining American citizens, or even foreign nationals without trial, unless those foreign nationals are members of, or affiliated with, Al Qaeda (See Obama’s signing statement.)

The briefest research reveals that rendition as practiced by the Obama Administration is completely different than the Extraordinary Rendition practiced by the Bush Administration. The Bush Administration abducted and tortured over 1000 individuals, some completely innocent.

Personally, I believe that Obama is tragically wrongheaded regarding National Security and Foreign policies, but the differences between the Obama Administration and Republicans on these issues is clear. Nihilistic Obama haters should consider the alternative before their distortions and exaggerations contribute to Republican victories in the coming elections. If you think things are bad now, wait until the Republicans take control of our government.

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By JDmysticDJ, May 18, 2012 at 5:49 pm Link to this comment
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What a bunch of mindless morons are found here at truthdig. Mr. Fish appeals to such nihilistic morons. Fish is an evil, no talent, purveyor of falsehoods. Whether Fish is simply ignorant or intentionally putting forth falsehoods is beside the point.

Politifact:

“On Aug. 24, 2009, Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the Special Task Force on Interrogations and Transfer Policies had finished its review. The United States will continue to send individuals to other countries, stated a Department of Justice Press press release, but the United States will seek “assurances from the receiving country” that the suspect will not be tortured. The recommendations specifically called on the Department of State to be involved in evaluating those assurances and for the Inspector Generals of the Departments of State, Defense and Homeland Security to submit annual reports on transfers conducted by each of their agencies. The report also recommends that agencies obtaining assurances from foreign countries insist on a monitoring mechanism or establish a monitoring mechanism, to ensure that the individual is not tortured. The specific recommendations themselves are classified, however.

Ben Wizner, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union, told us that it’s “unlikely that CIA renditions under Obama – IF THEY’RE BEING CONDUCTED – are even remotely on the scale of what occurred during the Bush administration.” Wizner said we’re not seeing a large number of families coming forward claiming that their loved ones were shipped off to other countries and tortured, which is what happened during the Bush administration.”


Wikipedia:

“Two days after President Barack Obama was sworn into office, on 22 January 2009, he signed an executive order entitled “Ensuring Lawful Interrogations”.[155] This order specifically addresses the practice of transferring individuals to other nations in order to ensure that such practices comply with the domestic laws, international obligations, and policies of the United States.[18] It establishes a committee that will provide recommendations within 180 days of the executive order. It specifically has as its goal a process to ensure that the United States practices do not result in the transfer of individuals to other nations to face torture or otherwise for the purpose, or with the effect, of undermining or circumventing the commitments or obligations of the United States to ensure the humane treatment of individuals in its custody or control.”


President Obama’s signing statement regarding the 2012 NDAA:


“... First, under section 1021(d), the bill does not “limit or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military Force.” Second, under section 1021(e), the bill may not be construed to affect any “existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.” My Administration strongly supported the inclusion of these limitations in order to make clear beyond doubt that the legislation does nothing more than confirm authorities that the Federal courts have recognized as lawful under the 2001 AUMF. Moreover, I want to clarify that my Administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens. Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a Nation. My Administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution, the laws of war, and all other applicable law.”


Fish spotlights Obama’s comments regarding gay marriage as being Obama’s only positive action. Knowledgeable people must acknowledge that Fish is a hateful nihilist and a demagogue of the worst sort.

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By jimmmmmy, May 18, 2012 at 2:21 pm Link to this comment

I liked the cartoon , Barrys a shoe-in in November. If it wasn’t for all the money the campaigns are generating they could just acclaim him POTUS.

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By Jim, May 18, 2012 at 11:51 am Link to this comment
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PERFECT!!!

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By D.R. Zing, May 17, 2012 at 7:15 am Link to this comment

Big B,

Yes. I tend to agree.  President Obama dropped the
ball. He didn’t support his base, the people who
elected him.  Now he has the racists on the far right
against him, the fiscal conservatives against him,
the war hawks (ironically, often one in the same as
the fiscal conservatives) against him, and the
progressives against him. 

The progressives probably won’t show up to vote,
which is the same as voting against him.

But those on the right will.  They will be highly
motivated.

The race is Romney’s to lose. He’ll only lose if he
picks a dunderhead like Sarah Palin as a running
mate, which he is not likely to do. He’s smarter and
more stable than McCain is.

Here’s to hoping he governs like the governor of
Mass. and not the jackass he’s been in the primaries.

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By Big B, May 17, 2012 at 4:38 am Link to this comment

Kind of says it all doesn’t it.

There are bad things people do that no amount of good acts can ever make up for. Prez Barry should be forced to find that out in november.

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