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By WW, February 9, 2012 at 5:15 pm Link to this comment
Seems like neither person has a choice in how they dress. There’s the pressure to be fashionable and the pressure to wear what men deem appropriate. Either way, neither woman is in control.
By D, February 9, 2012 at 5:11 pm Link to this comment
I think the artist is trying to say not to be too extreme in either direction. I do not agree that women should be forced to wear something they don’t want to. I also do not personally think that exposing as much skin as possible is necessarily empowering either. Women think that the only way to feel beautiful and attractive is to expose themselves with the result being insecurity and discomfort. But to each her own.
By Jessica, September 13, 2011 at 10:43 am Link to this comment
Mr. Fish is obviously a cisgender straight male.
By Alex, September 10, 2011 at 8:25 am Link to this comment
This is a false dichotomy. Not all Western women dress like, what I presume the cartoonist believes are “whores.” We dress like professionals, nurses, police officers, students, we wear jeans and sweaters and sure tank tops and mini skirts when we want to, but that’s the point. We where what we want. We will never be tortured or imprisioned for wearing what we want, going where we want or doing what we want. Arab women don’t have a choice, what they were is legislated in the Arab world and strictly controlled by fathers and brothers in North America. I should know, a girl from my high school was murdered by her father for refusing to wear a hijab. That happens.
By glider, June 13, 2011 at 10:56 am Link to this comment
Funny cartoon but one of the only Fish ones I disagree with regards to its message. So if we all walk around naked without socially constructed clothes fashions would this be dehumanizing? I guess one of the issues is what exactly is “human”. It apparently is used in a fashion to suggest all that is good, which is of course laughably self righteous of ourselves.
By Sweeper, April 28, 2011 at 7:09 pm Link to this comment
Perhaps it is you who is “ignorant” - have you taken
the trouble to research Afghan women’s attitudes
towards the burqas they are forced to wear? Say what
you will about Western modes of dress - at least
women who reject them aren’t beaten, shot, or stoned
to death. We have actual choices. Dressing like a
skank is but one of these. This cartoon represents a
ridiculous and reductionist outlook, drawing a false
distinction whereby a woman is either a nun or a
whore. And far from making the point it is apparently
aiming for, the take-home message is STILL; “Women,
we will judge you on how you dress.” Yeah, really
I don’t believe the cartoonist would dare draw such
an insulting cartoon depicting a man in a djellaba vs
a man in a business suit.
By Napolean DoneHisPart, April 28, 2011 at 6:53 pm Link to this comment
Do we not see the depravity?
Do we not see the moral decline?
Rome fell due to decadence, from the top down… and the U.S. will fall due to the same, and due to arrogance, greed, lust and much more.
Do I support a man telling / demanding a woman what to wear? Of course not.
But monkey see monkey do. Where are women gathering their identify from these days?
Some skank on TV? Some half naked whore in a movie?
Do we even see the media programming with suggestion and nuance, feeding the factors of fear, insecurity and directly marketing to such frailty?
By yikes, April 28, 2011 at 1:12 am Link to this comment
The issue isn’t who’s wearing a burqa and who’s wearing skanky clothing. I think people often miss the point of this debate. Women should be allowed to wear what they want. The problem starts when men start choosing what females should wear for them.
By rockymountainhigh, April 27, 2011 at 4:13 pm Link to this comment
Women’s bodies and the way they dress should be
regulated by women. If a woman wants to wear a
burka, let her, if she wants to wear regular
clothes, let her. The problem is men trying to
control it. It really just boils down to a man’s comfort. I (a man) am jealous that my
girlfriend/wife etc is hot and other men look at
her, I will make her dress differently for my own
comfort. I will then look with contempt on other
women who dress the way I have forbidden my wife to
dress. all awhile objectifying her in my brain. I’m
a dude by the way, and all people are created equal,
it just so happens that men have a tendency to be
more powerful and exploit it on the women they supposedly love.
By Napolean DoneHisPart, April 26, 2011 at 12:27 pm Link to this comment
I see one culture protecting the sexuality and decency of their women ( with debatable intention ) and another culture accepting the exploitation of their women ( with debatable intention ).
I’d like my mom, sisters and further female family members and friends be decent rather than a sexual object.
This cartoon is the example of a pagan-led culture verses a religious-led culture.
Which one would God ( in light of God’s holiness ) be likely to look upon with contempt?
By Alison, April 26, 2011 at 11:22 am Link to this comment
I don’t understand is this suppose to funny…?
I don’t get what makes either one the lesser sex.
By majd, April 25, 2011 at 8:24 am Link to this comment
LOVE IT! LOL so truuuee!
Haha @sweeper, your ignorance is astounding. As a
female citizen of the ME, let me tell you that while a
few women here are forced to wear the burqa, many,
believe it or not, simply love the fact that it makes
them feel closer to their God.
“...the woman you see as “sexualised” is only rendered
that way by the your sexualised gaze” TO ALL FEMALES
OF THE WORLD: LETS GO OUT NAKED! IT IS FILTHY MEN’S
EYES THAT SEE US AS SEXUALISED, WE REALLY AREN’T DOING
ANYTHING WRONG. -_-
By Sweeper, April 24, 2011 at 2:57 am Link to this comment
So, according to this cartoon, a woman displaying her
natural body shape (high heels not withstanding)is
dehumanised in the same way as one who is forced by
archaic religio-cultural archetypes, to cover every
part of herself, including her face, prohibiting
meaningful social interaction. It’s just so
brilliantly “ironic” that we Western women should
object to that sort of treatment of our gender. And
yet you fail to notice the clear irony in the fact
that the woman you see as “sexualised” is only
rendered that way by the your sexualised gaze. You
imply that she is dressing for you.
You’re a satirical genius. Not.
By bickram brickell, April 20, 2011 at 2:45 pm Link to this comment
By Napolean DoneHisPart, April 17, 2011 at 3:46 pm Link to this comment
Correct Jouri, yet the irony that the one with the choices and possible education is still blind to her own reality… that SHE in fact has ALSO been dehumanized and stereotyped as the lesser sex… thus her big fake boobs and scanty outfit.
By Jouri, April 17, 2011 at 10:23 am Link to this comment
I am a male, grown as a muslim in ME and now an atheist living in a western country.
Make no mistake, I think Mr. Fish is brilliant. He is a one of a kind artist. But I have something to say on this.
Suppose the burka lady says the same thing to the high heel lady: “Put on this burka, or you are the lesser sex”.
The point is that she, the burka lady has reached to this conclusion by the continuous brain wash of the male dominated society in muslim world.
I know there is brain wash in western societies as well. But nobody forces you physically to wear high heels or shorts. The burka is being forced.
Burka lady does not have any other choice and is uneducated. The high heel lady does have many other choices and a voice.
By Napolean DoneHisPart, April 12, 2011 at 10:38 pm Link to this comment
Fish, by FAR your best one!
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