By Dar, October 31, 2009 at 4:20 pm #
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Han, October 30 at 6:15 pm:
“Dar,
Your knowledge about statistics isn’t based on facts. Actually the number of 800,000 is even too low. Anyway, what would you think of a nation that caused 800,000 of dead to your nation, one way or the other?
I think you were replying to hark not me.
Nevetheless, I still find 800,00 too high if it is only for this war (6 1/2 years), but would make more sense to all deaths from 1991 to today, though it’ll probably be higher then.
By Han, October 30, 2009 at 6:15 pm #
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Dar,
Your knowledge about statistics isn’t based on facts. Actually the number of 800,000 is even too low. Anyway, what would you think of a nation that caused 800,000 of dead to your nation, one way or the other?
It does seem a bit odd ... someone drives a bomb into a marketplace and blows up innocent people and we call it cowardice while a bomb dropped from the air causes the same carnage and we call it an unfortunate mistake and the dead collateral damage.
Killing without an inherent risk of injury or death to the perpetrator is not honorable ... it is clinical, without remorse and the ultimate cowardly act. It sanitizes a gruesome reality which should never be allowed to happen.
By Edger, October 30, 2009 at 2:44 am #
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Finally. This should be plastered on every front page in the US. Just yesterday I nearly puked listening to Sec. Clinton go on and on about the cowardice of the bombers of the market in Pakistan…not because she was wrong, but because she was so damn hypocritical. One measuring stick please!
And of course, the extra-special American homicide bombers who according to
CNN are not cowards, no, not at all, are the ones who operate unmanned drones
that kill Muslim civilians (oops!) as the bombers sit safely in front of computer
screens in their little cubicles in Colorado or Virginia wherever.
Words like “coward” are words we use about other people. Our own cowardice is not only conveniently ignored, but blissfully and blindly sponsored.
My favorite question of the moment: What are drones but abject cowardice in action? Sitting safely in an office somewhere in Florida, an able-bodied military technician pushes a button and launches an “unmanned aerial vehicle” (drone made by Raytheon and sold to American taxpayers at an appropriately high price) which lands on men, women and children in Afghanistan who are totally without any ability to defend themselves. How cowardly can you get?
Next step: Killing people by robot—euphemism “wired war.”
By hark, October 29, 2009 at 10:16 am #
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I think Mr. Fish should have stuck with a number that is generally accepted, like 100,000. Sure, it might be many more, but it detracts from the point with a number like that shouting out at you. “There they go again with their hyperbolic craziness, those lefty loons,” you can just hear the war crowd screaming.
I have often wondered why, in America, “coward” is considered the worst you can say about someone. And why we use the term so inappropriately. How we can label suicide bombers “cowards” is beyond my understanding. We award the Medal of Honor for soldiers who give their lives for a cause, regardless of the merit of the cause.
But that doesn’t begin to describe the horrific irony that this cartoon so superbly expresses.
By Verena, November 4, 2009 at 12:00 am #
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This is amazing. Art can get the point across…
Report thisBy Rabbit, November 2, 2009 at 12:18 am #
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I wanna be like Fish when I grow up!
Report thisBy Dar, October 31, 2009 at 4:20 pm #
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Han, October 30 at 6:15 pm:
“Dar,
Your knowledge about statistics isn’t based on facts. Actually the number of 800,000 is even too low. Anyway, what would you think of a nation that caused 800,000 of dead to your nation, one way or the other?
I think you were replying to hark not me.
Nevetheless, I still find 800,00 too high if it is only for this war (6 1/2 years), but would make more sense to all deaths from 1991 to today, though it’ll probably be higher then.
Report thisBy Dsmith, October 31, 2009 at 7:35 am #
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Imagine if 800,000 Jews had been slaughtered the outcry would be tremendous…800,000 muslims…yawn.
Report thisBy Virginia777, October 30, 2009 at 7:20 pm #
wow, unmanned bombers…
its like a video game
Report thisBy Han, October 30, 2009 at 6:15 pm #
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Dar,
Your knowledge about statistics isn’t based on facts. Actually the number of 800,000 is even too low. Anyway, what would you think of a nation that caused 800,000 of dead to your nation, one way or the other?
Report thisBy jac, October 30, 2009 at 5:53 pm #
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Why are homicidal psycho killers welcome in the officer corps but not at the infantry level?
Report thisBy C.Curtis.Dillon, October 30, 2009 at 6:07 am #
It does seem a bit odd ... someone drives a bomb into a marketplace and blows up innocent people and we call it cowardice while a bomb dropped from the air causes the same carnage and we call it an unfortunate mistake and the dead collateral damage.
Killing without an inherent risk of injury or death to the perpetrator is not honorable ... it is clinical, without remorse and the ultimate cowardly act. It sanitizes a gruesome reality which should never be allowed to happen.
Report thisBy Edger, October 30, 2009 at 2:44 am #
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Finally. This should be plastered on every front page in the US. Just yesterday I nearly puked listening to Sec. Clinton go on and on about the cowardice of the bombers of the market in Pakistan…not because she was wrong, but because she was so damn hypocritical. One measuring stick please!
Report thisBy Dar, October 30, 2009 at 12:44 am #
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To hark:
If Mr.Fish had used “100,000” it would have been even more distracting given that it is an under-estimate.
800,000 seems about right, atleast if one includes the 12 years of sanctions as well.
Report thisBy Ed Harges, October 29, 2009 at 9:34 pm #
And of course, the extra-special American homicide bombers who according to
Report thisCNN are not cowards, no, not at all, are the ones who operate unmanned drones
that kill Muslim civilians (oops!) as the bombers sit safely in front of computer
screens in their little cubicles in Colorado or Virginia wherever.
By gerard, October 29, 2009 at 3:07 pm #
Words like “coward” are words we use about other people. Our own cowardice is not only conveniently ignored, but blissfully and blindly sponsored.
My favorite question of the moment: What are drones but abject cowardice in action? Sitting safely in an office somewhere in Florida, an able-bodied military technician pushes a button and launches an “unmanned aerial vehicle” (drone made by Raytheon and sold to American taxpayers at an appropriately high price) which lands on men, women and children in Afghanistan who are totally without any ability to defend themselves. How cowardly can you get?
Next step: Killing people by robot—euphemism “wired war.”
Report thisBy NYCartist, October 29, 2009 at 12:40 pm #
Good. The skeletons are way too neat, though - all scrubby clean, no bits missing…
Report thisBy hark, October 29, 2009 at 10:16 am #
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I think Mr. Fish should have stuck with a number that is generally accepted, like 100,000. Sure, it might be many more, but it detracts from the point with a number like that shouting out at you. “There they go again with their hyperbolic craziness, those lefty loons,” you can just hear the war crowd screaming.
I have often wondered why, in America, “coward” is considered the worst you can say about someone. And why we use the term so inappropriately. How we can label suicide bombers “cowards” is beyond my understanding. We award the Medal of Honor for soldiers who give their lives for a cause, regardless of the merit of the cause.
But that doesn’t begin to describe the horrific irony that this cartoon so superbly expresses.
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