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By NYCartist, March 19, 2009 at 8:28 am Link to this comment
Russian Paul, I knew I should have said I am a woman. You might have read my comment differently? I suggested Mr. Fish used bad judgment, which is not an accusation of racism. I’ll do my best to be clearer. I was making a dry-ish kind of joke about your defending Mr. Fish, your favorite cartoonist. I think it was very human. And nice.
By WykydRed, March 19, 2009 at 5:19 am Link to this comment
Oh, and JW? The title is “Tarred and Feathered”. That’s why.
By WykydRed, March 19, 2009 at 5:01 am Link to this comment
Okay. Fuck it. It’s NOT tarring and feathering. He’s wearing a black suit and the feathers are Super Glued to him.
By Russian Paul, March 18, 2009 at 8:17 pm Link to this comment
Do you resort to condescention every time you lose an argument? I am an artist too (musician) and I would be suprised if people didn’t question the shit I do since it’s pretty loony, but I don’t like it when people are accused of racism with no real basis. Thus, the quibbling.
By NYCartist, March 18, 2009 at 2:06 pm Link to this comment
Awww, Russian Paul, that is a great ending. Sounds so human. I like Mr. Fish’s work, but sometimes artists get questioned about what we do. I like Mr. Fish’s work a lot, often. Not always. Nor everything.
By Russian Paul, March 18, 2009 at 11:20 am Link to this comment
I think the use of this method for almost 1000 years in England/Europe is significant, but in America, it was used by both sides extensively during the American Revolution, the Whiskey rebellion, against the Mormons in the early days including Joseph Smith, against union organizers earlier in the 20th century…etc. And yes, many blacks have suffered this abuse, but it really isn’t racially exclusive. It’s been prevelant on all sides. I’m not trying to quibble, I’m just trying to defend my favorite cartoonist.
By JW, March 18, 2009 at 10:16 am Link to this comment
Why do you see tarring and feathering? I don’t see any tar. I see black feathers on the body and white feathers on the head, kind of like a bald eagle. You know, the bald eagle, the symbol of America, the PROUD and GLORIOUS looking bird that’s SUPERIOR to all other birds? You see those two words in the caption: PROUD, GLORY, SUPERIOR? The guy in the cartoon is trying to strike that proud, bald eagle pose.
By NYCartist, March 18, 2009 at 9:32 am Link to this comment
Russian Paul, Tarring and feathering in this country has been “special” for African-Americans. Has it been done to other groups in US history? So of what possible importance can it be that it was done in Europe hundreds of years ago…could you be specific about when and where, please? It is not relevant to America. I am older and I know what I know. You’re quibbling, why?
By Gulam, March 17, 2009 at 7:42 pm Link to this comment
This one was a loser, but the one about the waterfall of blood was one of the greatest cartoons I have ever seen. The recent one with Hillary’s head on the Goya figure of Saturn, was pretty good too. The recent one with God with tits was a good example of his childish and crude streak. Most of the ones with long texts fail too. That he is so good at drawing when he wants to be adds to many of the cartoons.
By WykydRed, March 17, 2009 at 4:53 pm Link to this comment
See, Paul? That’s what I said. hehehe
I know art is subjective, but what some people subjugate it too frankly scares the crap outta me!
By Russian Paul, March 17, 2009 at 10:22 am Link to this comment
By the way, I don’t see any imagery of lynching in this. And white people were tarred and feathered too.
The origins of tarring and feathering goes back to England almost 1000 years ago, to tie it solely to African American history is simply anachronistic.
Let me just add that I agree with you Gulam - although I think Mr. Fish is by far the best political cartoonist out there right now, he can be hit or miss. This one was kind of lackluster, but when he has a hit, it is REALLY powerful stuff.
By Russian Paul, March 17, 2009 at 10:01 am Link to this comment
Although it’s true that many African Americans were tarred and feathered, historically it has been more of a white-on-white crime, used mostly in feudal Europe and colonial America. After the NY Post incident, I think many people are having a knee jerk reaction to anything that could remotely be possibly interpreted in a way that might be seen as racist.
NYCartist - you are wrong, look it up, tar and feathering was a common practice in Europe for hundreds of years.
By WykydRed, March 17, 2009 at 9:53 am Link to this comment
Probably because Mr. Fish is NOT any kind of bigot or racist. (There IS a difference in the two. Look em up!)
Only the falsely “offended” would take his work as racist. You’re all pretending to liken his imagery to racist acts, but maybe they are just sometimes a reflection of what YOU’RE hiding.
I LIKE watermelon! I LOVE fried chicken! I’m white, wo what? It doesn’t count? I bring KFC to my meetings where there are people of all hues and dues. They eat it because they LIKE KFC. They aren’t offended, they’re full! Until you can stop seeing such idiocy as past, you’re a present-day bigot pretending to be offended for people who don’t need your false pity.
You know, it might just be simple: The denizens of Wall Street have been tarred and feathered by the angry citizens of this country and yet they stand up and hold their heads high. Maybe it’s just a visual comment on the stupidity and egocentric balls of criminal Americans? Maybe he’s just standing tall before the world outside America, trying to look like he’s still in charge and control after being kicked half-to-death?
Maybe it’s’ just me. Maybe it’s just you folks.
By the way, I don’t see any imagery of lynching in this. And white people were tarred and feathered too. There ARE photographs still in existence. Go Stumble! And white guys who raped girls were dragged to death. Granted, not as many as black people, but you can’t progress past the skin and see the person until you decide to just start taking ALL people as just people with outside differences.
By NYCartist, March 17, 2009 at 8:52 am Link to this comment
I have never heard of tar and feather as not being for African-Americans in real life. Not the greatest idea for a cartoon.
By Gulam, March 16, 2009 at 10:04 pm Link to this comment
Mr. Fish can be the best at times or he can be crude and juvenile, or like this one incomprehensible. He needs a wife to tell him when it makes not sense. I’ll bet he doesn’t have one, or won’t listen.
By Jack Adams, March 16, 2009 at 5:43 pm Link to this comment
I’m not sure why Mr. Fish thinks it appropriate to use the imagery of lynching. Tar & feathering was an horrific, racist act. Watermelons on the white house lawn, chimpanzees authoring stimulus bills, wall street tar & feathering those it hates. What’s next, a cartoon featuring strange fruit?
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