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By Beats, March 16, 2011 at 2:30 pm Link to this comment

see what I have always thought about religion is that it is great for people who need, if it helps you live a happy fulfilling life than more power to it.  Me personally I don’t feel like I need it.

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By Maani, December 29, 2008 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment

Reubenesque:

“We were made in God’s image but Christians say He gets upset when we use that wisdom instead of relying on Him.  Somewhat of a quandary wouldn’t you say?”

Christians who suggest that we err by using our God-given gifts (including intelligence and widsom) are overstating their case.  I think it is safest to say that using our own wisdom and relying on Him are NOT mutually exclusive.  Both are important, and both are (Scripturally/theologically) supportable.

Peace.

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By Reubenesque, December 29, 2008 at 12:52 pm Link to this comment

We were made in God’s image but Christians say He gets upset when we use that wisdom instead of relying on Him.  Somewhat of a quandary wouldn’t you say?

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By Mr Bill Gates, December 28, 2008 at 10:24 pm Link to this comment
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Are you guys retards ? Using Quick Time plug-in?

What happened to Open, free, platforms?

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By Maani, December 28, 2008 at 9:41 am Link to this comment

Verne:

Ditto!!

Peace.

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By Friendly Freddie, December 28, 2008 at 7:49 am Link to this comment
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Dear TruthDig:
I appreciate that there are many artistes who only compose on Apple.  However, much of the world operates on .wmv or a simalar suffix.  Please expand your audience to the majority by making this available in the other formats. Some of us are unable to download thw Quick Time required to view your annimation on our PC’s because of external restrictions. This consideration would be sincerely appreciated.

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By Verne Arnold, December 28, 2008 at 2:18 am Link to this comment

@ Dr., Dr., and Maani;

Hi guys, good on ya Dr. Top of the New Year to you and have a happy 2009.

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By rogolf, December 27, 2008 at 3:47 pm Link to this comment
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‘A-f__king-Men’
Fish, your a mouthpiece from the
heart and soul of humanity.
Thanks. I needed that.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, December 27, 2008 at 11:38 am Link to this comment

Hi, Maani, I agree w/ you.  HNY!

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By GW=MCHammered, December 27, 2008 at 11:04 am Link to this comment
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Dig it!
It’s a ‘loves and fishes’ truth jab.

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By martin weiss, December 27, 2008 at 7:00 am Link to this comment

sorry, but war is not the paradigm of civilization. Patriarchy is the expression of insecurity and fear. If your teachers had been more competent, they would have related to you the story of civilizations that lasted for thousands of years without kings, slaves, war, or weapons. We are not made stronger by fear or weapons, but by ensuring the weakest among us will prosper—the women and children. If you can’t understand that you must be a republican. Republicans cannot function without greed and fear.
Read Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jesus, Ghandi, Mohammed, Buddha and on and on. If we want to survive, we must be protectors, not enforcers. It is not warriors, but mothers that give us life.
Vote Republican! Go from peace and prosperity to war and debt. They are playing on your fears. Those of us true Americans who are neither scared of terrorists nor republican bankers will prosper while you drown, alone, in fear.

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By Da Bronx, December 26, 2008 at 12:24 pm Link to this comment
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“All the great civilizations of the world have been based upon patriarchy”

Now please give me an example of a “great” civilization which lasted more than the 1200 years of the Navajo.

The “white” term “civilization is subjective, racist, and inaccurate.

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By Maani, December 26, 2008 at 11:05 am Link to this comment

DKIA:

LOL!  And yet…what IS the impetus when there is no “guilt” factor involved?  LOL.

Peace.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, December 26, 2008 at 10:35 am Link to this comment

Good point, Verne.  But I did donate to a humane society this Christmas because Jesus wanted me to.

I said, “Unhand me, thou foul Truthdig.  I must now needs answer the call of the Lord.”  And I, Verne, I tore myself away from TD and trundled on down to the Humane Society.  That, my friend, is acting!!!

Whoever made up that guy was a genius, him and Allah and all those other action figures.  Now, if I could just get myself to do it without outside intervention.

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By Maani, December 25, 2008 at 6:12 pm Link to this comment

troublesum:

Right you are.  And yet, we are even MORE out of touch with our spirits.

Peace.

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By troublesum, December 25, 2008 at 2:45 pm Link to this comment

If you bring 100,000 sacks of gold as an offering to God, He will say, “Bring me the heart, I want the heart.”
Rumi

And modern man is so out of touch with the heart that he no longer knows he has one.

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By Maani, December 25, 2008 at 12:19 pm Link to this comment

troublesum:

Superb.  Pithy and concise.  Bravo.

Peace.

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By troublesum, December 25, 2008 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment

The figure in the cartoon is a head on legs and God is all heart.  It is only when we live exclusively in our heads that we believe that we are self sufficient.  Believing that we are self sufficient, we have nearly destroyed the world.

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By Luke Powell, December 25, 2008 at 10:53 am Link to this comment
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This is what decadence is: the movement toward greater and greater subjectivity. All the great civilizations of the world have been based upon patriarchy, because that is what over time has worked. Patriarchies have survived by being more fit than other cultures over time. This is because this system operates from a more objective standpoint and is less likely to fly off the handle when afraid. The northern Europeans and Americans are barbarians from beyond the fringes of the ancient civilized world, very much like the Mongols. They have been forcing their tribal values, their democracy and feminism, on the ancient civilizations through an age of destruction, but this is about to end.

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By Maani, December 25, 2008 at 10:28 am Link to this comment

If we could really “save ourselves,” how is it that we created such a mess of this planet in every possible way?  That we are destroying it seemingly as quickly as we can.

Things are getting worse, not better, and the only ones we have to blame are ourselves.  Looking in that mirror should not have produced a smile, but an even deeper frown - unless the man is happy that he is helping (whether directly or indirectly) to destroy the very planet he lives on, possibly making it inhospitable - and even uninhabitable.

Peace.  (Feel free to call me a curmudgeon…LOL)

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By Ron N. Bykal, December 25, 2008 at 8:14 am Link to this comment
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Entertaining with a profound multi-level message, this piece should be required viewing, followed by open discussion, in every house of worship of every religious organization on earth (and beyond). Brilliant, Mr. Fish. Thanks.

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By Verne Arnold, December 25, 2008 at 6:27 am Link to this comment

I liked it because it’s true: Save yourself! Act!
But Truthdig is a holding pond! And very effective from what I can see.

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By Willpen, December 24, 2008 at 9:38 pm Link to this comment

Very nice indeed…. Merry Us !!!

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By Anrey Wang, December 24, 2008 at 6:48 pm Link to this comment
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Happy Holidays to you too Mr. Fish. Great work.

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