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Posted on Aug 28, 2008

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By jrosenb1, August 31, 2008 at 4:23 pm Link to this comment
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Oh, come on.  Mr. Fish, I’m a fan of yours, but your version of Dr. King got it wrong this time.  I didn’t hear Obama’s boldly stated intention to tax big corporations as “coddling big business.”  I didn’t hear his insistence on a foreign policy shaped by appropriate “temperament and judgment” and by a concern for sound strategy as a declaration that the U. S. should “police the world.”  As for domestic spying, there is still a big difference between placing the hand of a Democrat at the controls and putting a Republican in charge.  The whole statecraft of the Republicans was aimed at establishing permanent one-party control of this country and giving the (Republican) president monarchic powers.  They still might succeed.  There’s plenty of time to turn Obama into a villain, if you want him to be one.  But meanwhile, there’s a BIG difference between the two men running for the presidency.  It can be summed up in three words: “Supreme Court appointments.”  That should be a mantra for Democrats for the next two months.

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By felicity, August 31, 2008 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment

omniadeo -

I tried it and now I get where you’re coming from. So it’s like Obama did not have to be a MLK to be nominated.  Like race was no longer in the mix because it is finally beside the point? Actually we’re not far apart - just took a different way to get there.  (I’ve never been very good with irony.)

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By omniadeo, August 31, 2008 at 3:11 pm Link to this comment


It is you who are hung up on race. If you can’t see irony in MLK struggling to get the vote for black people in order to elect a leader who in large part runs counter to MLK’s own values, maybe I can’t help you.

Try this: The cartoon does not imply that Obama has to be like MLK. It points out the irony that it took an MLK to get a man not like him elected though. Try that.

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By Ed Harges, August 31, 2008 at 12:43 pm Link to this comment

re: By Jane, August 30 at 4:36 pm:

Gee, even if you disagree with the thought conveyed by this piece, it’s hard to believe that it didn’t make you think, Jane.

Oh well.

As Dorothy Parker said, “You can lead a horticulture, but you can’t make her think.”

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By Jane, August 30, 2008 at 5:36 pm Link to this comment
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I found this offensive without being interesting. At least make me think, Mr. Fish.

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By Ed Harges, August 30, 2008 at 12:22 pm Link to this comment

ZING! Very good, very wise, and very sad.

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By Bronwen Rowlands, August 30, 2008 at 5:38 am Link to this comment
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Beautifully drawn and very powerful, Mr. Fish.

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By hippy pam, August 30, 2008 at 5:05 am Link to this comment


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By felicity, August 29, 2008 at 9:15 am Link to this comment

re: omniadeo

To assume that Obama is or better yet must be another King, to me, is like assuming because Obama’s black he must have rhythm, play a mean game of basketball and be good at fetching.

Mr. Fish has dissed Obama because he is not, in Mr. Fish’s eyes, in the mold of King.  Why should he be?  Because he’s black? Racism is when a person’s skin color determines who, what and how he is. Mr. Obama is a walking example of a man, half white, raised by a white family in a white culture, all of which is meaningless because he’s black on the outside and that is his sole identity.

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By C Quil, August 29, 2008 at 9:03 am Link to this comment

Right on, Mr. Fish.

Apart from the blatant identity theft by making a speech on the anniversary of MLK’s “I have a dream…”, the whole thing was full of vapid generalities. I felt myself so overcome with sugary phrases that I thought I might have to reach for some insulin.

I’d go with Kucinich’s “Wake up, America!” any day.

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By Paracelsus, August 29, 2008 at 7:33 am Link to this comment

I “resemble” that remark. Heh. Heh. Did somebody read my mind?

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By GW=MCHammered, August 28, 2008 at 11:24 pm Link to this comment
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“At My Funeral”

I’m still young, but I know my days are numbered
1234567 and so on
But a time will come when these numbers have all ended
And all I’ve ever seen will be forgotten

Won’t you come
To my funeral when my days are done
Life’s not long
And so I hope when I am finally dead and gone
That you’ll gather round when I am lowered into the ground

When my coffin is sealed and I’m safely 6 feet under
Perhaps my friends will see fit then to judge me
Oh when they pause to consider all my blunders
I hope they won’t be too quick to begrudge me

If I should die before I wake up
I pray that the Lord my soul will take but
My body, my body - that’s your job

I can’t be sure where I’m headed after death
To heaven, hell, or beyond to that Great Vast
But if I can I would like to meet my Maker
There’s one or two things I’d sure like to ask

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By delfinajones, August 28, 2008 at 10:17 pm Link to this comment
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WTF? You are channeling MLK and know what he would say about Obama’s accomplishments?

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By Chris, August 28, 2008 at 9:58 pm Link to this comment
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Only MLK knows if MLK would’ve supported Obama. It is something no one will ever know and it would be arrogant for anyone to speak for MLK. I don’t like either candidate and I’m probably going to vote third party. McCain is a cranky jerk and Obama reminds me of a used car salesman.

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By Tim McFarland, August 28, 2008 at 9:40 pm Link to this comment
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So, he’s NOT the Messiah, after all?


I’ll settle for the polar opposite of George W. Bush.

Good enough?

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, August 28, 2008 at 5:54 pm Link to this comment

I just don’t know: Let’s bask in the 50% liklihood that the Bush cabal is coming to an end.  Also bask in that 50 short years after the beginning of the civil rights movement, a half-black man is the democratic nominee for POTUS.  This is huge.  Even liberals are trying and convicting him even before he takes the oath to uphold the US constitution.

You simply can’t get elected POTUS if you don’t kiss a little ass and understand entirely how to play the Washington game. Just ask Kucinich and Nader.  You folks be my guest and criticize Obama before he’s done his first hundred days.  At least give his this:  He’s half-black and he won the democratic nomination for POTUS in a country that loves the neocon white european 2nd amendment-hugging wealthy evangelical who, as Barney Frank says, “believes life begins at conception and ends at birth.”

As for voting in congress, those bastards infect and contaminate legislation to where in order to get one good thing done you have to vote for ten bad things.  To make it even worse, one smears another for how he voted by nitpicking at one of the most insignificant add-ons.  That’s the way it works. 

If Obama gets elected, with the help of a democratic, filibuster-proof congress, we might be surprised at how our government’s agenda may turn domestic.  And I think that scares the hell out of those folks I mentioned earlier. 

You young people, 18-20somethings, get out and vote for Obama and then hold his feet to the fire.

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By Mula, August 28, 2008 at 5:35 pm Link to this comment
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Dear Mr. Fish,

So kind of you to explain you cartoon…

We live in such amazing and challenging times. To have Obama running for president in my lifetime is remarkable…He has courage and grace, but he is working within an extremely controlled and corrupt system. We all wish we lived in a perfect world, it is not.
I am encouraged to see youth involved in the political process this year. It is their future at stake. It will require the next few generations to turn the current mess around.

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By omniadeo, August 28, 2008 at 2:51 pm Link to this comment


You miss the point of Mr. Fish’s cartoon completely. It is not registering surprise that a black man can be a politician for the wealthy and powerful, it is lamenting the painful irony that Obama’s election would be used to commemorate MLK’s speech. MLK spoke truth to power, not lies top the powerless to justify the actions of the powerful. I harbors some vague hope that deep beneath his too calm surface, Obama is waiting to reveal that he is willing to fight and put his Presidency on the li9ne for rtruth. But the facts so far say otherwise.

Mr. Fish,


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By felicity, August 28, 2008 at 2:18 pm Link to this comment

Mr. Fish - your, or somebody’s racism is showing.  Black people really are human beings - angels, saints, rotters, miscreants.  There is no difference between men who hid behind hoods and the safety of numbers to hang black men from trees and those who assume that a man’s blackness somehow makes him an exemplary human being.

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By srelf, August 28, 2008 at 2:14 pm Link to this comment

Amen, brother.
The “I Have a Dream” speech was made by MLK with his April 4, 1967 speech at Riverside Church in the back of his mind. That speech, four years later and exactly one year before his assassination, was called “Beyond Vietnam”, and it was very different than the “Dream” speech. If Barack ignores that speech, he does not further MLK’s legacy. But then again, maybe he just wants to stay alive…

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By Big B, August 28, 2008 at 1:35 pm Link to this comment

Ahh, Mr Fish, you’ve hit this one out of the park!
I laughed until I cried, but then I just kept crying.

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