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By Uncle B, July 30, 2009 at 4:53 am Link to this comment
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Deep in the woods of America, in the most obscure and hidden locations possible, the few remaining sites with good soil and good water, and usually associated with lakes, dwell the new American off-grid gnomes! They are weakly interconnected cells much like terrorist groups, but for their own self protection, and surface incognito, on the web, occasionally, for the latest news, techniques, advice on sane survival in the Americas. They abhor China, Capitalism, industrialization, and work to avoid supporting them. The also live very healthy well-educated, peaceful and natural lives, out in the boonies! They are the pioneers for the next civilization ready to replace this one when it self-destructs! This system is already passing the limitations of the fisheries, the soils in the fields, the oil supplies, and its population demands even more, even at the expense of cannibalizing its own members, for the enrichment of the fewer and fewer at the top! The financial calamities we have seen recently, or the reduction of the American dollar to toilet paper value or less, to come from massive government printings and spending to prop up an inviable system, in expectations that it will “surge” enough to repay their folly will be followed by an enrichment of the “Yuan”  and the well planned economic takeover of the current corrupt American government by Asian interests! Better to run for the hills! Safer in these times to suffer off-grid, than eat the poisonous fruits of a dying system!

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By AMMU, June 4, 2008 at 7:45 am Link to this comment
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OUR EARTH .............AND FUTURE…..........
.................PLEASE SAVE IT…...........
IF U DIN’T DO IT…............PLEASE NOTE THAT YOUR FUTURE IT SPOILED

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By green thinking, May 22, 2008 at 8:26 pm Link to this comment
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All of us face a variety of risks to our health as we go about our day-to-day lives…. Indoor air pollution is one risk that you can do something about.

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By Douglas Chalmers, April 22, 2008 at 11:44 am Link to this comment

Note that this cartoon is from Canada. Its an anti-China message that good’ol Anglo Canadians (in Calgary) don’t like Canadian-Chinese demonstrating about anything!

Olympic torch cheered in KL video - http://english.sina.com/1/2008/0421/155556.html

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By Douglas Chalmers, April 22, 2008 at 11:36 am Link to this comment

Uhh, just send all those Latinos back where they came from (Mexico? But wait, they were in California first!) and that’ll bring the population back to 1900 white mans’ version. Then ya can all feel happy about yer pollution levels….... if the decrease!?!?

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By Expat, April 22, 2008 at 8:06 am Link to this comment

^ simple:  Go for it.  And good luck; just remember KISS (keep it simple stupid).  Ha Ha, good luck!

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By Aegrus, April 22, 2008 at 7:51 am Link to this comment

Hell yeah! That’s what I’m talking about! Believe me, I’m trying to get something like that started up from the grass-roots here in my state. Florida is a state of precedents!

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By Expat, April 22, 2008 at 7:46 am Link to this comment

^ if we; bought American and ate seasonally we’d bring the whole system down?  Now that’s revolutionary!

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By Expat, April 22, 2008 at 7:35 am Link to this comment

^ individual decisions made locally one person at a time.  Individual responsibility for the things we put in our bodies and the bodies of our children.  This is so simple; don’t complicate this with global thinking (thats a myth).  We’re talking one person at a time.  Buy American and eat seasonally.  It’s simple, really.

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By Amae, April 22, 2008 at 7:31 am Link to this comment
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It is really strange to see so many self-righteous people trying to beat up China for its crime on pollution… if I am not too off the mark, China is the factory of the world. Big corporations trip over themselves to build their factories in China so they can enjoy all the “profits” minus all the environmental and labor rules; in other words, American and international corporations build their wealth and cheap goods on the back of Chinese people. Don’t need to believe me, just watch the segment from democracynow and see what American corporations try to do to Chinese labor laws: http://www.democracynow.org/2007/10/30/gap_mattel_speedo_wal_mart_products
Yeah, just blame the victims…it is so much easier on the conscience, It is Americans’ birthright: we want the cake and eat it too.

Yeah, China is a disgusting dictatorship and of course, they should not be hosting the Olympics. We should only deal with them when our bottom-line is on the line.

Yeah, yeah, yeah…China is the biggest polluter, why don’t we compare CO2 emission per capita between the US and China?? Of course, nobody deserves a good life like Americans do.

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By Aegrus, April 22, 2008 at 7:03 am Link to this comment

Expat, additionally, it has to be a movement inculcated into our country through practical advertising and business methods. We don’t have any businesses really trying to change the way they do practices because, much to the contrary of what some may think, business is as dumb as government most of the time. They run on what is established to work. Rarely do people make real risks.

This problem needs multi-lateral attention, and it is really hard to have a real change until it is marketable to the working class.

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By Expat, April 22, 2008 at 6:35 am Link to this comment

^ want to green up?  A very simple way is to eat seasonally; eat only those vegetables that are available in your local area by season.  Don’t buy tomatoes in the seasons they wouldn’t normally be in the produce section (one example).  Buy only organic as much as you can, locally; farmers markets are great places to visit.  As long as we shop Safeway/Fred Meyer/Trader Joes/Natures Foods, etc. we encourage the rape of the planet and the exploitation of indigenes peoples everywhere.  More importantly we lose accountability for the food we consume and feed to our children.  This can only be an individual decision which then becomes a collective movement but only if we see the short and long-term value of such a decision in our personal lives.  Of course this goes far beyond our food.  It’s really a simple thing that could have a profound effect.

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By katie, April 22, 2008 at 5:52 am Link to this comment
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i agree with you 100%
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By Aegrus, April 22, 2008 at 5:46 am Link to this comment

Now isn’t that the truth of the matter! Hah!

Yeah, I have a message to the green movement… Stop being so friggin pretentious! I watch programs dedicated to changing the way we think about our role in the world, and you know what I see? A handful of upper middle-class yuppies and guilty white people spend exuberant amounts of money on re-used goods, hybrid cars, extremely expensive high-tech energy saver devices, cork products, organic groceries no working-class family can afford and salvaged antiques. Well, to be coarse and indignant, fuck off!

A real green movement should not be in the hands of those who can afford to feel less guilty. This isn’t a fucking battle against our precious guilt of wealth. This is a fight for our survival not just globally, but economically and pragmatically! The waste our large manufacturing corporations produce is not justified by the increasing prices and disparity of wealth in this country. Many, upon many things can be produced far more cheaply by salvaging at home instead of importing cork from other countries or grabbing bamboo from Asia because they are sustainable across the Earth. How about localized sustainability? Does anyone have any sense anymore?

Yeah! Grow organic! It’s great for the environment, your health and tastes better! Ooh, you want it in your own back yard, well, no. You have to buy it from California. Carbon footprint? Who cares! This is “incremental change.” Please… spare me from these overfed and overpaid morons who like to buy bumper stickers and t-shirts expressing their “civil discontent.” Hey, buddy. You’re just like the Bushies with the American Flag on their car. You’re just as stupid.

Action, not words. Real change happens from where?

Survey says, Bottom Up!

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