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 Your Post-GOP Debate Breakdown, Featuring Al GorePosted on Dec 12, 2011
The GOP’s remaining presidential candidates had yet another debate on Saturday night, just in case there was anything any of them still needed to comment about at length that might tip the balance in their quest for the Republican nomination. But what does former Vice President Al Gore think of it all? Now comfortably distanced from his 2000 presidential debacle, the former veep and Current TV founder has a different kind of platform from which to expound about politics. And that’s just what Gore did in a round-table discussion later Saturday that included “The Young Turks” host Cenk Uygur and former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm. Here’s what they had to say. —KA Current TV: Advertisement TAGS:
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By TheFrankFactor.com, December 15, 2011 at 12:48 pm Link to this comment
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How do you talk about this farce, this sham, this fraud of an election and campaign system with a straight face?
The right answer?
VICE PRESIDENT GORE, WHAT WAS YOUR TAKE-AWAY?: “Well, we have a duopoly, a fraudulent embarrassment of a system in which corporate propaganda governs the debate and it is essentially an auction. The candidates are sociopathic, liars and dim wits and the nation is sliding further and further into the shitter every day.”
Report thisBy terry p, December 15, 2011 at 10:25 am Link to this comment
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Ratified - The word sounds appropriate in our colony of one world order governing rats.
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By terry p, December 15, 2011 at 8:32 am Link to this comment
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Reminds me of George W Obama.
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By Julia, December 15, 2011 at 6:34 am Link to this comment
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Ardee,
I do not seek to put all the blame on Clinton/Gore—but if Clinton had not signed it, who would we be blaming now?
I started voting Green in the last mid-term election.
Report thisBy ardee, December 15, 2011 at 4:22 am Link to this comment
Julia, December 14 at 5:25 am
We argue at cross purpose. Ratified and ready for signing as Clinton took office. Certainly there is enough blame to go around. You seek to push it all on Clinton/Gore, thus at least partially absolving Bush 41. Why? Dont know.
Vote Green.
Report thisBy Julia, December 14, 2011 at 6:25 am Link to this comment
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Ardee,
Again—Clinton signed it—he WAS the President that signed it. “Ceremonially” signing something doesn’t make it law. Did GHWB push it, arrange it, whatever? Sure, but it doesn’t take any responsibility off of Clinton/Gore. Just like the repeal of Glass-Steagall…a GOP idea, but Clinton signed it. In fact, while signing the NAFTA bill, he stated: “...NAFTA means jobs. American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn’t believe that, I wouldn’t support this agreement.” And of course, he was WRONG.
Report thisBy ardee, December 14, 2011 at 4:14 am Link to this comment
Hey,hey Julia,
Youre actin’ so peculiar,
I know Id never fool you in a million years…..
..and like a fish I just rose to the bait.
Negotiation and U.S. ratification
Following diplomatic negotiations dating back to 1986 among the three nations, the leaders met in San Antonio, Texas, on December 17, 1992, to sign NAFTA. U.S. President George H. W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and Mexican President Carlos Salinas, each responsible for spearheading and promoting the agreement, ceremonially signed it. The agreement then needed to be ratified by each nation’s legislative or parliamentary branch.
Before the negotiations were finalized, Bill Clinton came into office in the U.S. and Kim Campbell in Canada, and before the agreement became law, Jean Chrétien had taken office in Canada.
Love the Sailing Shoes Medley…..
Report thisBy Julia, December 13, 2011 at 11:49 am Link to this comment
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Ardee,
Clinton signed NAFTA:
http://millercenter.org/president/events/12_08
Report thisBy ardee, December 13, 2011 at 5:49 am Link to this comment
A Bird in the Hand
Interesting take here. As a dyed in the wool fan of science fiction I am most interested in how Gore played such a seminal role in NAFTA on your planet.
Here on ours Gore, as Clinton’s VP ,certainly came out in favor of an ALREADY PASSED LEGISLATION.
George the elder signed NAFTA. It was ratified by a bipartisan vote in Congress while Clinton was President. The issue was divisive for Dems back then as is evident from the vote in the Senate where 27 Democrats voted “for” NAFTA while 28 Democrats voted “no” (Dorgan did not vote).
The Senate Vote:
Report thisYEAs—-61 (27 Dems - 34 Repubs)
By A Bird in the Hand, December 12, 2011 at 1:18 pm Link to this comment
Al Gore…The guy who brought us NAFTA and carbon credits…
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