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‘We’re Fucking Losing This Thing’

Posted on Jun 27, 2010

From our friends at Brave New Films:

With all the drama around General McChrystal’s resignation, the media missed the real story in the explosive Rolling Stone article: “... [W]e’re f****ing losing this thing.”—Staff Sergeant Kennith Hicks.

Administration officials are frantically trying to reassure Congress and the American people that we’re making “progress” in Afghanistan, but the Rolling Stone article makes it clear that McChrystal’s inner circle knew better. As one of his senior aides said, “If Americans pulled back and started paying attention to this war, it would become even less popular.”

For these reasons we made a video calling out what was missed by the media.  Take a look at the video:


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By huckleberry_finn, July 18, 2010 at 8:34 am Link to this comment

Well, it’s been quite a while since the whole story
unfolded and where did we get? General shift of
strategy or any great achievements? I doubt.  Seems
that author of this article was right — Petraeus-McChrystal story was about bargaining one trouble for another.

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By last_boy_scout, July 1, 2010 at 4:16 am Link to this comment

Still I think that Obama did the right thing.
Military is a military. All the civic statements
about stress and circumstances have nothing to do
with the military code and subordination. What
McChrystal has done (in a non-political sense) is a
shame for any officer.

I also wonder if Obama is doing the right thing,
appointing the W’s man to what seems to be the most
important military post in the country.

Btw, given all this situation with McChrystal’s
retirement, Petraeus appointment and the whole shift
of the Afghan strategy, I wonder what would happen to
the MI-7 deal. U.S. military planned to purchase few
Russian utility helicopters, as long as they were
proved to be much more suitable and reliable in
Afghanistan, than the Blackhawks (and cheaper as

Senators Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala., ex D.-Ala.) and
Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.), lobbying the interests
of Defense Solution group, however, questioned the
necessity of this deal (source —, having
offered to give the contract to some “good ole
American guys” rather than Russians with their
“doubtful democratic identity”. The decision-making
process should be up in the air by now. I kinda
wonder how it all would turn out.

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By diamond, June 30, 2010 at 1:38 pm Link to this comment

Exactly Brian. Which is why they did it. It’s the burning of the Reichstag all over again but Hollywood big and spectacular and cinematically perfect for the mass media /superhighway age. How many times do you suppose they’ve run those images of the Twin Towers exploding in flame and coming down at free fall speed now? I’ve lost count. And yet if those buildings weren’t the WTC and it wasn’t 9/11 everyone’s own commonsense would tell them they were blown up. It’s the most incredible case of mass hypnosis I’ve ever seen. Indeed I don’t think there’s ever been anything like it before in the history of the world. It’s ‘1984’ made real and I’ve got a horrible feeling that’s exactly what it was intended to be.

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By Brian, June 29, 2010 at 8:04 pm Link to this comment
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Don’t question 9/11 though.  Brave New Films, isn’t so brave on that topic, nor are most “progressives”.

Yet ALL of the assaults on the Constitution, the Wars, the sanctioned Torture…none of it would have happened without 9/11.

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By D.R. Zing, June 29, 2010 at 2:57 am Link to this comment

Yeah, I agree when I read the RS article I was like:  The general didn’t have to resign for implying Joe Biden is a prick. Hell, Joe Biden is a prick.  Everyone knows that. That’s why he got the job.  The general resigned because he gave credence to the argument that this war should end right away.

The mainstream media covered it up—because they know they would get fired for saying “fuck” in print, so the general should have to resign for saying fuck in print. Fair is fair. 

But don’t blame the journalists. As we speak there’s some mainstream journalist getting his or her ass shot off trying to report the news.

And don’t give me your holier than thou shit. If you have a job, chances are you compromise your morals every day to keep it.  You may not be pulling a Sasha Gray every day, but you’re probably prostituting whatever skills you have for a measly paycheck.  I know I sure as hell am. 

Blame the corporations that own the journalists. They’re destroying journalism and paralyzing our country with lies and drama and disinformation and sensationalized bullshit that passes as news; they’re the ones enforcing vice laws in the age old form of public humiliation; they’re the ones making sure people who don’t even violate the law but simply violate church traditions are publicly humiliated, too.  They’re the shitheads keeping us all in line while our government fights wars into infinity as we destroy the ecosystem fueling an economic system that is unsustainable and absurd.

You want to improve journalism, pull a Ma Bell on the assholes who own the journalists. Break up the corporate news media, make them small companies, hell make them sole proprietorships if you have to, but get the MBA morons out of the news business, get the Murdochs out, get the Turners out.

Break up the media, one national news organization per company. That’s it. 

That’s the only reason Rolling Stone ( broke the story. It’s independent.  You can bet your sweet ass if it was owned by Turner Murdoch et al. they would have found a thousand reasons to quash the story before it ever saw the light of day. 

Break up the corporate news media. Break the TV news. Break the news.  Let journalists starting running news stations again.  Send Chris Matthews, George Steponarhinocerous, all spin zone hotheads, and actors posing as liberals posing as talk show hosts posing as journalists—send the bastards packing. 

Are you a journalist? 
You’re the one who should be marching in the goddamn streets.
Think about it. 
Molly Ivins sure as hell did.

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By bogi666, June 29, 2010 at 2:10 am Link to this comment
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Vietnamese society was totally mobilized for the war against the USG and eventually prevailed despite being bombed with more bombs dropped by everyone in WW2. Afghan society is not totally mobilized for war and the Afghans like the Vietnamese are fighting the self vaunted Pentagon war machine to a draw. Since Vietnam the USG military has deteriorated in its capabilities despite it obscene funding. Why? The purpose of the Pentagon is to secure, control world resources but mainly to protect the investments of the CORPORATE WELFARE KINGS WORLD WIDE, many of which don’t even pay U.S. taxes, EXXON. Besides, if war ends Pentagon funding dries up so it makes more sense to lose or at least not win a war so USG funding will increase without any cost analysis, just a blank check.19 hijackers defeated the USG in one day, 9/11.

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By numbnuts, June 29, 2010 at 1:54 am Link to this comment
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The problem is that we’re always picking countries with healthy peasants. Vietnamese and Afghans?? There are too many of them. We need to kill
smaller countries, maybe something in Africa or Central America (oh, already tried that per another psychotic President). How about Madagascar? It’s surrounded by water so those insurgent ingrates won’t be able to run away. And with 900 people per square mile we can kill hundreds with every decent bomb drop. Peru would be pretty good too. These rogue States have plenty in common with our other enemies. As with Iraq, Iran, Vietnam, Cambodia, Nicaragua, Honduras, Panama and Afghanistan, they have never attacked the US, are piss-poor, non-nuclear and colored. Let’s
go fuck them up.

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By Marc Schlee, June 28, 2010 at 9:04 pm Link to this comment
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It was never about winning.  The human slaughter industry is the only sector of the US economy that isn’t sliding down the crapper. 



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By AmishEcstasy, June 28, 2010 at 5:48 pm Link to this comment
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I remember back 1967 or 68 Walter Cronkite had THE GUTS to comment on his nightly news program that the Viet Nam war was a hopeless cause.It’s to bad we don’t have journalists with that kind of backbone today.The so called reporters we have now days are afraid to step on any of our political leaders toes because they enjoy their access to power. At least Rolling Stone and Truth Dig have the balls to stand up and do some honest forthright reporting!

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By Kelly, June 28, 2010 at 12:10 pm Link to this comment
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Someone is winning…multinational corporations.  It is rather ironic that Caterpillar Corporation announced new production lines in Aurora and Decatur IL for heavy mining equipment just weeks before the American public was told that Afghanistan contains “treasure” after all, in the form of some highly desirable mineral deposits.
This has never been about terror, or people…
War is about money!  Even the military leaders know this…

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By Mark, June 28, 2010 at 10:07 am Link to this comment
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It’s not that we’re losing this, it’s that there’s nothing to win.

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By dxwoods, June 28, 2010 at 8:46 am Link to this comment

The real story here is that the Rolling Stone is eating the MSM’s lunch in regards to
excellent investigative journalism. Between Taibbi, Dickinson, and Hastings I have
gotten more in-depth nuts and bolts straight news-I-can_use on Wall Street, the
oil spill, the war, the economy, the housing bubble, cyber crime, energy and the
sausage-making in Congress than anywhere else—TV, newspapers, or magazines.
One would think having championed and trumpeted Obama through the campaign
and year one that RS would be in-the-tank, or at least biased in favor of the
Administration. But I have found them to be just as tough on Obama as they were
on Bush—though Bush was easier to make fun of. Obama is proving to be just as
adept at screwing things up in order to save face, hold power, and get along.
Hats off to J. Wenner and staff. I doubt their competitors in the media will point
out to their readers/viewers/listeners that there is a better source of reporting out
there producing good work on a consistent basis.

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By Ali, June 28, 2010 at 8:30 am Link to this comment
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I know many won’t get this but:

100 Muslim fighters can kill thousands Americans
because of only one thing:

You cowards are fighting for Goldman Sachs and AIG,
those simple men & women of Afghanistan are fighting
for God; a concept totally strange to common american
layman! You can mock it, but wait and see.

Mark it: “wait and see.”

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By Leefeller, June 28, 2010 at 7:51 am Link to this comment

It has been rumored there are Liatheranisms in those there hills.

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By Anarcissie, June 28, 2010 at 7:29 am Link to this comment

If the war is really about capitalist accumulation, then the worse the better (from their point of view).

Which means if you’re sitting around waiting for the U.S. to be “defeated” in Afghanistan, you’re going to be disappointed.  “Defeat” would be an excuse to ask for a bigger handle (money to play with, basically).

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By balkas, June 28, 2010 at 5:55 am Link to this comment

All US wars are wanted: in palestine, iran, iraq, somalia, afgh’n, lebanon, syria, and pak’n.
US no vant da war, US get no da vor.

That’s the way rich USans get more powerful and rich.
While scaring witless the serfs.tnx

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By G.Anderson, June 27, 2010 at 10:42 pm Link to this comment

I guess, were just going to have to spend a lot more of the tax payers money there.

I wonder, if maybe we could find all 53 Al Caeda members, and offer them 10 million dollars each to, just go away. Even at that price it would really be a bargain.

But they probably wouldn’t be bought so easily, maybe there not in it for the money.

Well anyway, someone is getting rich in Afghanistan, but its not the American people.

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By diamond, June 27, 2010 at 9:41 pm Link to this comment

As if it is or ever has been about ‘al Qaida’, al Qaeda or al Ciada. It’s exactly like Vietnam in the sense that it’s a manufactured war, created to make the enormous and shameful waste of American taxpayers’ dollars by the Pentagon and the CIA and their friends in the arms corporations credible. With the end of the Soviet Union they had to find another ‘global threat’ and there just didn’t happen to be one hanging around so they created one and called it al Qaeda. Then they put together the war on terror which is also manufactured. Why do you think America ‘can’t afford’ a decent health care system? Because the Pentagon and the CIA have stripped all the money to fund their nefarious activities world wide and they have no intention of seeing their gravy train, their wars and their 700 global military bases or their colonial and resource thieving plans in the Middle East de-railed by anyone. Including the President of the United States, whoever he or she happens to be. McChrystal shouldn’t have been drinking beer all the way to Berlin on a bus with a ‘Rolling Stone’ journalist hanging around but anyone who thinks he’s the problem has probably been consuming something a wee bit stronger than beer.

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By dxwoods, June 27, 2010 at 9:01 pm Link to this comment
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I think the real story missed by the MSM (big surprise here) is that The Rolling Fucking Stone is eating their lunch when it comes to investigative journalism. Matt Taibbi, Tim Dickinson, and now Hastings have completely and thoroughly spanked them all when it comes to depth and straight, comprehensive coverage. Wall Street, Rove’s stealth-party subterfuge, the Oil Spill, Energy, the Health Care bill. They haven’t missed many big stories. Hats off to Jann Wenner and Will Dana. Don’t let the Lady Gaga cover fool you, folks. There’s some really reportage going on in there. Of course you won’t hear anyone in the MSM admitting it. The MSM and the current administration have a lot in common these days. More concerned with appearance than substance. Both of them are embarrassing to watch and between them them are fumbling the future from their sweaty palms. Say…. maybe Jay-Z SHOULD be King of America.

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By SteveL, June 27, 2010 at 7:38 pm Link to this comment

Can we pull the plug on this mess yet?

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By Lance, June 27, 2010 at 6:18 pm Link to this comment
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Good.  We lost.  Just like Alexander, the Russians, and about a half dozen others before us.

So can we come home now?

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By oussamajraous, June 27, 2010 at 6:05 pm Link to this comment

didnt state dept just admited there are no more than 50 alqaida in afghanistan?

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